forever gelson
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https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/...ey-injuries-efl-trophy-defeat-mk-dons-2965476
This explains the injuries
This explains the injuries
Luka Racic - Signs to June 2023
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forever gelson
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Very funny
Beat Poet
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Started today, phew, guess it was just Keith Curle circumventing the rules for the Tinpot Trophy.
He started and was terrible by all accounts. Hopefully just teething problems.
TadB
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Subbed to half time tonight v Bristol City anyone any information poor play or injury?
TW3Bee
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A defensive reshuffle, according to the match report.
AB
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On the BBC live commentary early on Racic was singled out for a fantastic tackle. The defensive reshuffle didn’t really pay off as they conceded 3 of the 4 goals after he was subbed!A defensive reshuffle, according to the match report.
Doesn’t seem to be a hit with Northampton fans so far. Quit a few negative comments on twitter such as these:
Seems to a feeling amongst them he is a bit too direct for their style of play, which I didn’t anticipate being the case.
Seems to a feeling amongst them he is a bit too direct for their style of play, which I didn’t anticipate being the case.
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I think he's been playing on the right of a back 3, normally that would give the defender far more options across the pitch but their short/long and completed passing stats hint at a very direct team in this lg.
nick logan
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Peasants
Mr Cynical
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Pretty sure they're quite a direct side so not sure how that works. Always going to need some time to settle in.
Bill Benn
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On the bench today as the cobblers lose at home to posh
brighton bee
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Seems to be on the bench a lot...really hope he breaks in soon as he’s looked great when he’s had a chance for us.
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I think he’s finding it very physical and kick and rush.
Kingston Bee
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All part of his education.
stefobee
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They were terrible last night, especially second half. A great game for the neutral through.
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Northampton were awful - if they play like that a lot of the time Racic will go backwards in his development!
Bangor Bee
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Tbh last night it looked like he already has gone backwards.
Guildford Bee
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It's something of an odd choice of club to send him to, TBH. They're hardly known for playing decent football.
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I presumed he went to Northampton as we had signed Goode from them and this was an unofficial part of the deal? Shame if it isn't working out as he has always looked solid for us and I would have put him ahead of Mads in the CB pecking order.
Kingston Bee
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Yes, until Mads went out on loan?
Beat Poet
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He'll be all the better for his experiences this season and unlike MBS, he arrived here with zero senior experience.
TadB
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Decent football or not most of us appeared to be happy enough to sign Goode from them, so presumably he developed OK there.
JANORAK
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Was he as bad or worse than the rest? His name featured regularly when I was sort of following the 2nd half on Bet365..
Bangor Bee
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Perhaps no worse than the rest, but they were not good. Based on what I saw (a large chunk of the game but not all of it), I would say he's lost some confidence.
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From what I saw, he was comfortable, but the team seemed on another wavelength. I couldn't work out if he was right back, right of back three or right of centre back pairing. However he was pushing up and then the forwards would lose the ball and he was scampering back. He won the ball and passed off ok. He wanted the ball, but it was kicked long. Then he told keeper to send long and ran forward, but then the keeper would give to a defender while his back was turned. I didn't see him as the issue in a very poor side.
Bangor Bee
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I'd agree that the organisation of Northampton's defence looked rather shambolic and that Racic appeared to be caught between playing as a right back and on the right of a back three. He did seem to get caught in a poor position occasionally.
Didn't think he looked particularly interested. Either he has fallen out with the manager or decided
the experience and level of football is doing him no good and is going through the motions.
On the other hand the standard of football explains several of Charlie Goode's performances for us
- pretty desperate stuff.
the experience and level of football is doing him no good and is going through the motions.
On the other hand the standard of football explains several of Charlie Goode's performances for us
- pretty desperate stuff.
Mr Cynical
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Real shame as he's been absolute quality when he's come on for the first team. Was a standout player in the B team. Sure he'll get to grips with it and show what he's about..
Beat Poet
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This information is about three weeks old, but it gives some insight into probably why he hasn't been involved in a matchday squad for over a month.
www.northamptonchron.co.uk
Curle confirms players were dropped from Cobblers squad for trip to Burton
Watson and Korboa didn't make the 18 while Rose remained an unused substitute
www.northamptonchron.co.uk
Jim Rourke
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Interesting article.
Since the Burton win - who are bottom- Northampton have won one, drawn one, lost one. Maybe a good set of results for them, considering success is survival
I would hope there has been a ‘use him or lose him’ discussion. The loan so far has set a very promising talent backwards. Europe somewhere for second half of the season?
Since the Burton win - who are bottom- Northampton have won one, drawn one, lost one. Maybe a good set of results for them, considering success is survival
I would hope there has been a ‘use him or lose him’ discussion. The loan so far has set a very promising talent backwards. Europe somewhere for second half of the season?
Mr Cynical
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Says here Northampton have spoken to us about recalling Racic. Think it would be best all round, hasn’t worked out for him and they don’t seem to be playing the right kind of football..
Jim Rourke
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Absolutely!!
hanworthbee
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Doesn't look great on racic that one of the worst teams in the league want to send him back
Isleworth_Bee
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Not really, f their style and team doesnt fit him.
Mr Cynical
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Difficult trying to break into a struggling side who play a completely different style to what you're used to. Will have been an education.. We know he's a quality player so hopefully we can get him some games somewhere where he can fit in. AFC?
hatfieldbee
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Could still be a decent bench warmer for us.
Mr Cynical
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I think we've too many CBs at the mo! Sorenson has taken his chance so Racic needs games elsewhere..
Les Beeavinu
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I think Thomas likes imposing centre backs so unless we suddenly move to a 3, I don't see much of a future for him here.
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Be useful to have an option of back three especially if did get promoted and we don’t have Centre backs at present to play that system.
A bit of a mystery as regards Northampton Town as he certainly looked the part with us when he played.
Guildford Bee
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It’s a shame because he looks a lovely player but I think you’re right. And the decision to change real ball-playing centre halves like Mepham, Barbet and Konsa for more dominant CBs has been well and truly vindicated
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He just needs to play regularly somewhere. I agree with the comments above. We now look for strong defenders who can also play a bit rather than vice versa.
Can Racic bulk up?
Can Racic bulk up?
Houghton Bee
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Another loan would be best if we can get him in somewhere he's guaranteed to play regularly. He's only 21 and looks to have plenty of potential to me, worth keeping on as a longer term project if he's happy with that.
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Not going to pass judgement on Racic on the basis of a duff loan to a struggling L1 team like Northampton and I don't think the forced departures of CM, EK & YB in any way indicate a change in direction vis-a-vis the type of CB TF prefers.
Pinnock is far more of an all round defender than YB & CM but the attributes of EK are serving him and AV well in the EPL.
Pinnock is far more of an all round defender than YB & CM but the attributes of EK are serving him and AV well in the EPL.
AB
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I don’t think Konsa or Mepham were sold or Barbet offered a contract that was less appealing than QPR’s because TF didn’t want/need those sorts of CBs. We got offered good fees by PL clubs who appealed to Konsa and Mepham as positive career moves. Barbet just wasn’t that good.
Frank hated having 3 ball playing CBs so much he changed our formation to using 3 at the back to utilise them and started the following season with that formation even with different personnel!
JANORAK
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Things can always change quickly. Injuries, transfers, yet we still improve. It’s not long ago since a clear out and Bjelland having to be managed, gave us Konsa and Mepham competing to be the youngest in the team.
Pontus obviously needs careful management for whatever future he has left with us....
jlove
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As you say, each moved for entirely different reasons, regardless of their playing style. Konsa probably the best potential but wanted out, Mepham high-profile young player to a club that was buying young EFL talent, Barbet effectively let go due to being a bit of a liability. Those gave the opportunity to go for better centre backs, again regardless of their playing style. The evolution of the team style, IMHO, is more to do with the focus on recruiting proper DHM/pivot players.
Jim Rourke
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Interest comment about a future at the club.
In my 'numpty on the terrace with little football understanding' view I saw Racic as the next in line Mepham. I personally rated him better the MBS, who I see as a player who will (is) develop into an outstanding 'traditional' CB. Racic I see as a very good 'ball playing' CB with tremendous potential. I have (maybe an incorrect) view ball playing CB's would be more valuable in the market.
You could present a case the first team don't use ball playing CB's. Pinnock has the occasion run into midfield. Generally we pass it out. So maybe Racic may not be a fit for the first team
Racic needs to be developed. If he is AND IF, his attitude is 'Top, Top' I believe he could be a highly valuable asset for someone in three to five years
AB
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Given how much we work on having everyone be comfortable on the ball and how much accurate passing we expect of our CBs I don’t think we’d ever say there was no room for a ball playing CB at the club if they were able to defend as well as stride up the pitch. What we don’t have room for is CBs who aren’t very good defenders.Interest comment about a future at the club.
In my 'numpty on the terrace with little football understanding' view I saw Racic as the next in line Mepham. I personally rated him better the MBS, who I see as a player who will (is) develop into an outstanding 'traditional' CB. Racic I see as a very good 'ball playing' CB with tremendous potential. I have (maybe an incorrect) view ball playing CB's would be more valuable in the market.
You could present a case the first team don't use ball playing CB's. Pinnock has the occasion run into midfield. Generally we pass it out. So maybe Racic may not be a fit for the first team
Racic needs to be developed. If he is AND IF, his attitude is 'Top, Top' I believe he could be a highly valuable asset for someone in three to five years