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For me, we def look weaker with him in. We've got so used to Raya being there to sweep up balls over the top and that allows us to play a higher line but Luke's not that kind of keeper. Equally when he has the ball there's no way we're going to launch quick counters. It just takes a way an element of our game unfortunately. He's a perfectly solid keeper otherwise although we did look more nervy on crosses without someone dominating the area.
 

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I think many have summed it up well. Won't let us down, but won't give us what we need. A good number 2 but we'll need a rayaplacement in soon.
 

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He’s not at Raya’s level but criticism is unwarranted.

Daniels doesn’t ever let us down. He wasn’t the reason we lost today. He is solid Championship quality keeper and would be a truly excellent signing for any team:

1. Looking to get promotion from League One
2. Looking to survive in the Championship

His distribution is always calm and composed and he never really gives chances away.
 

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Yes, but still let a goal in at his near post!
The ball did indeed go in at the 'near post', if there is any implied criticism of Daniels above that simple fact in your comment I would disagree. His starting position for a cross was good and you have to look at the three defenders including Tony and DaSilva who watched Bela move across them and arrow his header in at the near post whilst playing 'Musical statues'.

He is a very sound keeper who is not anywhere near as dynamic as Raya in his distribution - few in the Championship are - but he was a good 7.5/10 today and will do a very competent job for us as long as he's asked.
 

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Daniels is good, Raya is better. We need Raya to enable us to play a higher line and his distribution is second to none in this league.
 

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He had a decent game and has never really let us down. very happy he is with us. He wasn't at fault for their goal but maybe it was the type of goal that Raya with his superior agility and reflexes might just have got a hand to. That maybe is the difference between them and what we need..

Presumably Balcombe might get a run out at Southampton as Daniels is still the number one keeper for next Saturday at the moment unless we are pleasantly surprised and Raya starts in the week.
 

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I just wonder if it may be the case that Daniels wasn't doing Raya-style 30-40 yard throws, because there wasn't anyone showing for the ball with a bit of intent? It wasn't just Daniels that was slow and static.
 

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The defenders were culpable, but Luke D had a grandstand view of what was incoming with the run of the Birmingham scorer and chose not to readjust his position to plug the gap, or move out to block; he stayed still and therefore couldn't reach to stop the header.
 

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I just wonder if it may be the case that Daniels wasn't doing Raya-style 30-40 yard throws, because there wasn't anyone showing for the ball with a bit of intent? It wasn't just Daniels that was slow and static.
This is probably true. Also exacerbated by the discipline of the opposition and the speed at which they regained defensive shape to make those potential throw-outs all the more difficult. The fact remains though, that Luke is instinctively old school in this aspect and his first instinct is to clutch the ball to his chest and breath out! On a number of occasions yesterday he could easily have released a short ball with more urgency to a defender who could have started up a counter-attack.

Look, I like Daniels a lot as a keeper. He is solid and dependable; commanding in the air; good shot-stopper. As a defender, you would feel very comfortable with Luke behind you. And there is no way that anyone could lay the blame for that defeat anywhere near our keeper. But he is not the footballer that Raya is. Very fine margins, to use a sh*t cliché, but in a match of this nature, Raya's distribution could just have been the difference.
 

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Was tonight Daniels first clean sheet for us?
 

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Very good game v Southampton. It wasn’t a game for us to pass short out of the back, though in the second half we were comfortable enough and confident enough in him to do so. He was ideal for the more safety first long ball approach we proved surprisingly adept at and it is arguable that the one he tipped over from Stewart would have been tougher for Raya to reach. Pleased that he’s going to make Raya have to win his place back and that we might even be able to rotate the two of them tactically.
 

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I think more and more Bees fans are realising what a solid keeper Daniels is. Another good performance this evening. No his distribution is not at Raya's level - very few keepers outside the top half of the Premiership are- but he's good enough in that respect and a very commanding and reassuring presence at the back. He's earned a run at No.1 irrespective of what happens with Raya
 

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I think more and more Bees fans are realising what a solid keeper Daniels is. Another good performance this evening. No his distribution is not at Raya's level - very few keepers outside the top half of the Premiership are- but he's good enough in that respect and a very commanding and reassuring presence at the back. He's earned a run at No.1 irrespective of what happens with Raya
His distribution isnt as good no.

But how many goals last season were attributed to a 'key pass' from Raya? I can remember the Swansea game, but how many more?

In contrast, how many goals did he cost us from mistakes? Hull for example.

Distribution isnt everything if it doesnt actually lead to goals!
 

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His distribution isnt as good no.

But how many goals last season were attributed to a 'key pass' from Raya? I can remember the Swansea game, but how many more?

In contrast, how many goals did he cost us from mistakes? Hull for example.

Distribution isnt everything if it doesnt actually lead to goals!
There was at least one other, though as most of his distribution is short-medium distance from the penalty area and as a team we rarely go long it’s not surprising he doesn’t have more. Rico is acknowledged as excellent but it’s quite likely Dalsgaard puts in more key passes if you’re just focusing on the passes just before the assist.
 

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There was at least one other, though as most of his distribution is short-medium distance from the penalty area and as a team we rarely go long it’s not surprising he doesn’t have more. Rico is acknowledged as excellent but it’s quite likely Dalsgaard puts in more key passes if you’re just focusing on the passes just before the assist.
I would say a key pass is one before the assist, but im not a football statto so i dont know if thats right!
 

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I would say a key pass is one before the assist, but im not a football statto so i dont know if thats right!
I think you’re right, my point was that there are key passes in the stats sense and passes which are very important but not in that technical definition. If in the Swansea game Jensen had passed it to someone else who got the assist for Ollie’s goal I don’t think it would have made Raya’s throw to Jensen any less key to that move.
 

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I think you’re right, my point was that there are key passes in the stats sense and passes which are very important but not in that technical definition. If in the Swansea game Jensen had passed it to someone else who got the assist for Ollie’s goal I don’t think it would have made Raya’s throw to Jensen any less key to that move.
Totally agree. I would prefer Raya than Daniels dont get me wrong - i think we realised post Bentley how much a good GK makes the difference!
 
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I thought Luke was quality when he was between the sticks.. against Leeds at theirs the game before smith went .i was surprised he didn’t get more chances when Bentley had a few below par games ...my opinion only ..
 

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Interesting differences between the sweeper keeper style like Raya and staying put like Daniels does.

McCarthy was sweeping quite a lot yesterday, which goes with the high press, but if I was a Southampton fan my heart would be in my mouth 10 times a game.
 

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Interesting differences between the sweeper keeper style like Raya and staying put like Daniels does.

McCarthy was sweeping quite a lot yesterday, which goes with the high press, but if I was a Southampton fan my heart would be in my mouth 10 times a game.
He was lucky not to get sent off with that rugby tackle on Fosu. Clearly he knew he wouldn’t get the ball and was just going to clatter Fosu, and given he clattered him high up around upper body, neck and head area he could have inflicted a serious injury.
 

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He’s not at Raya’s level but criticism is unwarranted.

Daniels doesn’t ever let us down. He wasn’t the reason we lost today. He is solid Championship quality keeper and would be a truly excellent signing for any team:

1. Looking to get promotion from League One
2. Looking to survive in the Championship

His distribution is always calm and composed and he never really gives chances away.
He would get into the QPR team
 

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David is definitely our first choice for all the reasons outlined in various posts above. Presumably Luke would like things different to this. From a fans' perspective though, a Raya-Daniels 1-2 is a really good set-up for us, imo. Ask yourself the question how would you react to finding that David had been injured during the warm-up and was to be replaced by Luke. Fans at some clubs would be panicking at the prospect of a no. 2 stepping in at the last minute. I would be feeling very relaxed at this situation with BFC.
 

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Solid with his claiming in the box, not tested. Would like to see him distribute it quicker from his kicks as it forced us to go long too often Got to trust the CBs.
 
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Solid enough. 👍
 

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Got to happy with him as back up. The Raras have three keepers that the fans hate and would love to have him instead.
 

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More than happy with LD's start to the season, but he definitely seems to sit a lot deeper than Raya.......
There were a couple of occasions today where I would have thought that DR would have been on the edge of/out of his area to challenge/collect...
LD certainly not playing the "sweeper keeper" role.
 

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Luke Daniels plays in...well a Luke Daniels style. Two clean sheet in a week, one goal conceded in three games is good enough for me.
 
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If my maths was half decent I could tell you that it is over 230 minutes without conceding a goal.
 

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More than happy with LD's start to the season, but he definitely seems to sit a lot deeper than Raya.......
There were a couple of occasions today where I would have thought that DR would have been on the edge of/out of his area to challenge/collect...
LD certainly not playing the "sweeper keeper" role.
Yes, I thought that the other day when Pinnock let one go through but Daniels was still sat on his line! I think Raya allows us to push the defence higher as we know he'll sweep up behind. He's also a lot more positive on crossed and I think that helps with confidence defending corners etc..
 

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