Mads Bech Sørensen (Long Term Injury)

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Really bad news for MBS who I thought was capable of making a strong challenge for a first team slot. It leaves us with very little cover for the central defensive positions. I wonder if that alters our priorities before the transfer window closes?
Norgaard and Janelt can play there, but that would create a problem in itself in midfield. Think we could definitely do with a midfielder or centre back.
 

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Any chance we will be able to get a loan replacement or will we just play Goode in place of Sorensen?
Would not be confident at all in Goode at this level. Wouldn’t be surprised if we brought in a young centre back, who can be our cover for this season and then potentially become an eventual Pontus replacement should he leave at the end of this season. Time is not on our side though.
 

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Feel really sorry for him , definitely would have played a reasonable number of games and his improvement over the last couple of seasons has been great to see. Let’s hope he makes a speedy recovery think we’re going to miss those long throws.
The only thing that softens the blow is we potentially have time to bring someone in as cover although maybe we could use Noorgard or Janelt although that then weakens the midfield. Some tough decisions to make before the window closes .
 
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Would not be confident at all in Goode at this level. Wouldn’t be surprised if we brought in a young centre back, who can be our cover for this season and then potentially become an eventual Pontus replacement should he leave at the end of this season. Time is not on our side though.
Why would a young CB be any better than Goode?
 

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Why would a young CB be any better than Goode?
Goode’s never excelled at any level above league 2, I’m sure there are a considerable amount of young centre backs out there who wouldn’t cost too much who are a lot better. For example as some suggested in another thread, Bella Kotchap from Bochum.
 
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Goode’s never excelled at any level above league 2, I’m sure there are a considerable amount of young centre backs out there who wouldn’t cost too much who are a lot better. For example as some suggested in another thread, Bella Kotchap from Bochum.
What makes Kotchap stand out compared to Goode?
 

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I have a bad feeling about his injury last night. He initially went down in the penalty box, then got up and tried to move forward before dropping down again further up the pitch and he looked in real pain, head in hands. That doesn’t bode well. Maybe I’m overly pessimistic, but I think this is going to be bad news.
So wish I’d been wrong, but I sensed bad news the way he went down.

I wouldn’t have had the slightest problem with him playing games in the Premier League. I think it’s a big priority. I wouldn’t fancy Goode and Jeanvier as back up.
 

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We definitely need another CB and I wouldn’t even say just as cover. Pontus can’t play every game given previous seasons. Rotation will be needed and as injuries occur. We need someone of quality who is good enough to start games. Goode doesn’t offer that.
 
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All of our players are untested at this level (bar the first 2 games, obvs)
Exactly.
Any (all) of our players could be world class but you don’t know until they play at that level.
Sorensen wasn’t good enough (for many) when he first played, ditto Canos after he returned, Maupay is lightweight, Watkins will never be a CF etc etc etc.
People that are better than us and get paid to do the job identified him and think Goode’s good enough so give him a chance.
Trust in the system; I don’t think it’s working too badly at the moment 🤔

PS sad for Sorensen, great prospect. At least he’s seen how well we ‘mend’ players so will be glad he’s at BFC. And be better after returning (eventually).
 

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Did anyone see how Mads damaged his knee? Players do seem to succumb to this injury in innocuous situations often not even in a challenge.I always suspect the damage has been done previously maybe even in training. Wonder how often footballers are subjected to the in depth fitness check that they get pre signing and whether this would prevent some of these injuries.
 

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Goode would not let us down.
He looked out of place for us in the Championship, in the games he got (in my opinion). He just isn't good enough on the ball for the way we want to play. No room for sentimentality here, he may be a top lad (he certainly seems to be) but could potentially be a real liability in our PL defence.
 

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Did anyone see how Mads damaged his knee? Players do seem to succumb to this injury in innocuous situations often not even in a challenge.I always suspect the damage has been done previously maybe even in training. Wonder how often footballers are subjected to the in depth fitness check that they get pre signing and whether this would prevent some of these injuries.
I think it was a clash in our box – the ball was cleared quickly but he was holding his knee, tried to carry on, then went down.
 

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What is the point in the B team and pathway etc if we just panic and sign someone every time there's an injury? Feels like some of you haven't been paying attention to how we've been doing it in recent years.

I think with the rise of the first team, the quality of the b team squad has to rise in parallel.

I think that is so difficult with such young players particularly with the added physicality of the PL.

I'm sure some will make it with us but I can't see too many being relied upon.

Stevens, MPH, Haygarth could possibly step up this season.....any others?
 

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He looked out of place for us in the Championship, in the games he got (in my opinion). He just isn't good enough on the ball for the way we want to play. No room for sentimentality here, he may be a top lad (he certainly seems to be) but could potentially be a real liability in our PL defence.
CG was superb in the league game vs Muff and put in further good performances when he featured thereafter.
Cometh the hour
 

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I think with the rise of the first team, the quality of the b team squad has to rise in parallel.

I think that is so difficult with such young players particularly with the added physicality of the PL.

I'm sure some will make it with us but I can't see too many being relied upon.

Stevens, MPH, Haygarth could possibly step up this season.....any others?
Sure, but we're talking about the 5th centre-back here, or 8th even because presumably Goode, Jeanvier and Racic are ahead in the pecking order. So we're not exactly "relying" on them... is the next in line then maybe Hockenhull (ex-Man Utd youth?). Or new lad Jefferies?

I know what you mean about the step up in level, but we've been hoping to take that step for a while, and presumably planning for it. We're not giving these lads a wage just to hang around. The hope is that they'll be able to fill in if needed, and even thrive if called upon. Obv they won't all make it, but we'll never know if we just write off everyone we don't know...

Shouldn't be forgotten either that this is the path MBS himself took!
 

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I think Goode has looked good and has a lot about him. Like Thompson he’s been written off as dross after his early appearances and anything else ignored. The worry for me is the illness rather than injury that kept him out a lot but he looks in personality and approach like a perfect Pontus replacement. But either way it’s terrible news for MBS who was our most improved player last season and had gone from a callow youth to someone to trust.
 

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I think we are in agreement here @Mr Tree .

MBS has been with us a seemingly long time, had a half/season on loan with Wimbledon. A few years in the B team and is ready to be a reserve CB at a premier League club having played a part in 60 odd (I'm guessing) games in the championship.

It's a process, is what I think I'm trying to say.

We can and do skip parts of it with some players but I can't see too many ready for PL football yet. Fingers crossed they will be in time.
 

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All of our players are untested at this level (bar the first 2 games, obvs)
It’s not the untested element that is the biggest concern for me, it’s Goode’s ability to stay fit for any length of time !?
 

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It’s not the untested element that is the biggest concern for me, it’s Goode’s ability to stay fit for any length of time !?
I’m not sure it was necessarily physical fitness.
 

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Health problems last year and looked decent in friendlies. Support our players.
If he gets on the pitch I will support him but we can’t be saying Goode is good enough for the Premier League when he’s only ever performed in league 2 and the occasional meaningless friendly.
 

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If he gets on the pitch I will support him but we can’t be saying Goode is good enough for the Premier League when he’s only ever performed in league 2 and the occasional meaningless friendly.
We signed him as effectively a replacement of Jeanvier. He was deemed good enough to be part of promotion squad and with length of contract clear that promotion would make him part of a premier league squad. The bigger issue is that he just seems to be unavailable so often, is right sided and not ideal to replace Sorensen.
 

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Terrible news for MBS, hope he makes a full and speedy recovery. From the team's perspective, also very disappointing - provided cover at both CB and left full back, confident and comfortable on the ball and very capable of playing in our PL team.

Regardless of anyone's view on Goode (or Jeanvier) he leaves a gap in the squad that will need to be addressed in my view. A Winston Reid type may be what we need here, someone experienced who can fill in when needed.
 

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If he gets on the pitch I will support him but we can’t be saying Goode is good enough for the Premier League when he’s only ever performed in league 2 and the occasional meaningless friendly.
Who knows, we'll see eh, give him a chance. By your logic Pinnock wouldn't step up, Watkins wouldn't step up, etc... born in league two, die in league two 🙄
 
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