He had some lovely defensive moments too, stood up to Lucas Joao really well. Will be worth millions.
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Yep, noticed hes been driving into the space ahead of him and using the ball really well.
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You'd have to say on current form if Reid was to start it'd be Pinnock who got the rest..
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MBS deserves more credit than he gets. The improvement in all areas of his play this season has been nothing less than sensational. The passing element of his game has been particularly notable. I thought he & Pinnock were both excellent this evening. It's not too much of an exaggeration to say his form has largely mitigated PJ's loss.
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Really, really good last night.
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Really??
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After the hour mark, him bringing the ball out left or 'doing a Barbet' across to our right, where the ball was received by or got to Dasilva or recycled across to our left, was one of the factors that stretched Reading and got them running sideways and back. This seems to me to be tactical to keep their players moving and wearing them out.Really??
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I didn't know whether to post this here or in B Team Productivity.
I was wondering about this chap and how much he has improved, especially this season. Is he better than Chris Mepham was when CM left us? MBS will improve. He is just turned 22 and could peak at 28? If he is better than CM that would mean he is the second B Team product to be in excess of £10m. Personally I would love for him to stay and get 500 appearances, going on to become one of the best in the world. I guess his rate of improvement would change over time, but he is already very good. Though if he was to stay for that long who would he stop getting the chance he has had?
I was wondering about this chap and how much he has improved, especially this season. Is he better than Chris Mepham was when CM left us? MBS will improve. He is just turned 22 and could peak at 28? If he is better than CM that would mean he is the second B Team product to be in excess of £10m. Personally I would love for him to stay and get 500 appearances, going on to become one of the best in the world. I guess his rate of improvement would change over time, but he is already very good. Though if he was to stay for that long who would he stop getting the chance he has had?
We have got a reputation for developing centre backs both B team and people like Egan, O'Connell, Tarkovski, Konsa who go on to a higher level. Mads Bech is unspectacular , Mepham could perfectly time a tackle, Egan throw himself in front of a shot, but I thought on Wednesday at Reading he was near flawless in carrying out the job he had to do. He didn't get caught out the wrong side of an attacker, won his headers and didn't misplace his passes. Happy for him to keep under the radar if he carries on like that.
jlove
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Mepham's value is enhanced by being English/Welsh.
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The most improved player in our squad.
I’m a massive Janson fan, but he’s got a big job getting back in.
I’m a massive Janson fan, but he’s got a big job getting back in.
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Think you are right. Last season Pontus was out injured which coincided with a drop in results which ultimately cost us. This season not so, and one of the key improvements that has allowed us to push on. Sorensen has more than played his part this season, in a rather understated way.
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I think the biggest single development in MBS’s game beyond just generally becoming a more robust and competent CB is his confidence and ability to take the ball at his feet up the pitch while striding out of defence. This has given us a new way to break high presses when last season we could be pinned back so that much possession was Pinnock passing back and forth to Jansson and the FBs trying to find a way out of defence (was it Barnsley at home where he had the highest possession and pass stats?). Egan and O’Connell did this last season for Sheff U but not much for us. He’s combined this with being able to play good long crossfield balls on a regular basis. It’s given us the ability to break opponents who are defending from the front and it drives our back line up the pitch so we don’t so often have the problem of our front three being isolated as opponents can’t just sit on Janelt and Jensen as the players most likely to receive balls coming out of defence.
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Thought in some of his early games he appeared to lack confidence on the ball and his passing was a bit slow and indecisive. Seems much, much better now and growing into a formidable central defender
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We look a lot more progressive on the ball from CB with him in the side than we ever did with Pontus/Pinnock.. Will be needed tomorrow too I'd imagine with Barnsley trying to press high, his long passes down the flank or across the field will be invaluable..
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Agree, that was my outlook on his performances and ability. Hes been a solid performer.
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Yes hes got a big job of getting back in, but i think we really lack his organisation and voice at times. Especially in recent games with rash freekicks out wide and letting in soft goals from set plays and crosses.
His experience is key and i bet the team still notice him from the sidelines.
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Lost some confidence by the look of it. Not bringing the ball out, putting people under pressure.
jlove
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I think he was getting it across to Reid for the diagonal right-to-left to get behind their midfield and into the space on our left. That seemed to be a tactic, certainly first half, but nothing really came of it.
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To be honest here, I’ll probably get ridiculed.... But mads is the weakest link in our team he doesn’t feel me with confidence. I think there’s a lot of shoddiness to his game & for the size of him easily gets bullied about. I know he’s young etc but I’m just stating what I see when I watch us play.....
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Only thing I would have ridiculed on was the part of the post you manged to change quickly
The rest is just your opinion and it's as valid as mine end of the day he wouldn't be first choice if Pontus and Pinnock were both fit but I think he has been superb and really stood up when we needed him given the injuries.
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You’ve watched a different Mads to the one I have this season. I think his improvement has been immense. He’s been hugely dependable and has noticeably grown in confidence, especially with the ball at his feet. I’m a huge fan of Ethan’s but I find this singling out of Mads as strange bearing in mind the errors from Ethan in recent weeks which have been particularly costly.
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agreed that stray pass in first half was shocking how we didn’t get punished.
he has been worth his place in the team and not singling him out for the two losses as they were not his fault, but he’s not comfortable on the ball and he he does come out in second place in many Ariel duels .
needs a rest and he is what you call a developing centre back not a first choice one.
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He's very good for his age, and we probably didn't expect him to be playing so much football at this point. In the cold light of day, he's not a premier league CB yet, and if all are fit he's 4th choice behind Pontus, Pinnock and now Reid.... but they're not all fit, so he plays!
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I have no concern with him in the starting team. Huge development to come yet as very young. But already a comfortable choice at this level.
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Raya's mistake but what on earth was he doing for the second? Talk about weak and allowing his man to turn like that.
Not a left back.
Not a left back.
One of the weakest players defensively I've ever seen for Brentford, I have no idea how he is playing ahead or Reid and Pinnock. He can't jump, win headers, put in block and read the game. Every forward beats him to the ball, usually followed by a foul.
No surprise we look so nervous at the back since he's been in the team. How can such a big guy be so weak.
No surprise we look so nervous at the back since he's been in the team. How can such a big guy be so weak.
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Here we go.........”the weakest” “the worse” “he’s rubbish”!!
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Better highlight the rest of the threads for every player who played today!!
“He’s rubbish!” Will be posted on all of them.
Forget about the run we just had. That doesn’t count!!
“He’s rubbish!” Will be posted on all of them.
Forget about the run we just had. That doesn’t count!!
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All about opinions isn't it, I thought he played quite well.
unBEEliveable
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Completely comfortable with him as a centre back but as a left back replacement for Rico I despair.
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Has been great since being a regular member of the first team.
Some people need reminding that he has only just turned 22, and is still learning.
Having Pontus and Winston around will be a great help to him.
Some people need reminding that he has only just turned 22, and is still learning.
Having Pontus and Winston around will be a great help to him.
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There's a lot of weirdos popping up! I though he was one of our better players, although not a left back. There were certainly 5 or 6 worse performers.Here we go.........”the weakest” “the worse” “he’s rubbish”!!
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Wouldnt say hes the "weakest defensivly"
Hes the least experienced bar Mads R at right back today.
Hes prob played too many games then we thought he would do this season.
Still poor for the 2nd goal IMO.
If you watched the game back and look at every one on one battle he has and how weak he is for the second goal it's been the same in every game he plays, he has been protected by better players around him. I'm sure he will be a good CB in time. Would the Coventry CB's be turned so easily for their second goal? they were bullying Forss.
Very talented young player who will win many Danish caps IMO. Let's not destroy him for not being perfect, he's a kid (despite his size) and centre halves mature later. Has outperformed Pinnock at times in our good run, and for some reason Reid has got off comparatively lightly for his sloppiness against QPR. He will most probably read this thread.
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Where to start with Mads... I know he’s young & raw. But he’s honestly my pet hate in this team at the moment. Just think he’s a serial weak link & I don’t care about our unbeaten run that we had he was still doing many silly things in that run. His passing is poor & his actual presence for the size of him he gets bullied. His build up for the ‘long throws’ end up finishing as a laughable spectacle. Don’t get me wrong in a few years I MIGHT eat my words but I’m just stating the current moment in time & he needs to be dropped from our first 11 has done for a while IMHO. I swear if he wasn’t danish he would not be given as many chances as he has. There I said it ridicule me fellow gpgers cause there’s no way that can be true right? Going forward from now Reid & Pinnock have to be the cbs until Janssons back it’s actually nonsense playing mads still
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I do think he can be undone by his own lack of experience at this level. That will improve. Aprt from this I think I disagree with every point you make.
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I know you think he is Frank's love child but I think that it might be blinding you somewhat, he is nowhere near as bad as you make out.
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There is no cure for the Danish Flu........
Apart from long throws (can't stand them, we've have never scored from 1), this is really harsh IMO.
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The quip about him being Danish wasn’t so much harsh as utterly pathetic tbh.
I disagree with the harsh criticism.
Regarding personnel choices - I think that on balance our best left-sided CB today is Pinnock in terms of aerial ability and physicality to get us out of the Championship.
I also think Pinnock struggles at right-sided CB where he looks like a duck out of water at times.
I would like to see either Roerslev or a natural left sided B team player at LB but they will need calmness personified next to them and to be helped on not leaving big gaps. And I think Reid and Pinnock duo will fit the Bill until Jansson’s back.
Regarding personnel choices - I think that on balance our best left-sided CB today is Pinnock in terms of aerial ability and physicality to get us out of the Championship.
I also think Pinnock struggles at right-sided CB where he looks like a duck out of water at times.
I would like to see either Roerslev or a natural left sided B team player at LB but they will need calmness personified next to them and to be helped on not leaving big gaps. And I think Reid and Pinnock duo will fit the Bill until Jansson’s back.
He’s been one of only two fit centre backs.
Our build up play has suffered hugely with Pinnock playing at right CB but he trust Pinnock more than Sorensen to play there.
He loses so many of his one on one battles and positionally he has a lot to learn, he will be good in a few years and much stronger but right now he gets bullied. Reid and Pinnock have to play, we need strong experienced CB's to steady our defence, we are giving up so many chances and soft goals from balls coming in the box. We had no choice but to play him but now we do. Look at the treatment Toney gets, opposition strikers are loving playing us right now.