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Managed to get for me.. Luckily enough as flights to the UK and hotel are already booked. But really feel bad for those here that didn't, seems like the ticketing process needs some adjusments.. Maybe there is still hope with the ticket exchange
 

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Thanks for your feedback Jon. Not addressed anything I’ve said and gone off on tangents. Yes revenue from membership sales after September/October is irrelevant, they lead to touts/away fans and day trippers who will only return for the big game where demand outstrips supply anyway - so every £4K for the 100 sold prior to Man City for example pisses 100 Brentford or potential Brentford fans off who have been keenly in the membership scheme for months, years. I also have a ticket :wave:... There’s a right and wrong way to treat fans. Selling memberships the week before Man City at home in November is the wrong way. End of story.
“Is the wrong way” says commercial genius Olliebfc, presumably head of commercial for Google or Nike or something 🤷‍♂️
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You question his (my?) intelligence but show your own Mensa credentials very clearly in subsequent posts.

Best you leave the tricky stuff to professionals 😉
 

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“Is the wrong way” says commercial genius Olliebfc, presumably head of commercial for Google or Nike or something 🤷‍♂️
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You question his (my?) intelligence but show your own Mensa credentials very clearly in subsequent posts.

Best you leave the tricky stuff to professionals 😉
I care about my fellow bees fans and laugh at my errors. You care more about defending the CEO who’s systems stink of greed. You still haven’t addressed my points, but I won’t question your level of comprehension - I’ve got trainers to sell. First person to block on the GPG, how exhilarating
 

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I care about my fellow bees fans and laugh at my errors. You care more about defending the CEO who’s systems stink of greed. You still haven’t addressed my points, but I won’t question your level of comprehension - I’ve got trainers to sell. First person to block on the GPG, how exhilarating
.... you're wasting your breath Ollie....arse licking sychophants never change....bet he's expecting a medal in the post from MB for single handedly saving BFC from financial ruin.
 

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And you’re acting like*:

- the revenue from memberships doesn’t matter
- the responsibility of a CEO is anything else than acting on behalf of the shareholders
- Brentford fans are so flaky that any perceived slight will see them switch allegiances or stay away
- that the ground is choc-full of away fans in the home end

I’m not saying that the process can’t be improved. That it should be improved at the earliest possible juncture. That certain checks & balances need to be refined next season.

But to call into question someone’s intelligence and commercial acumen, because you weren’t switched on enough to get a ticket is a fallacy.

*all of which are false btw
Are you a STH?
 

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And you’re acting like*:

- the revenue from memberships doesn’t matter
- the responsibility of a CEO is anything else than acting on behalf of the shareholders
- Brentford fans are so flaky that any perceived slight will see them switch allegiances or stay away
- that the ground is choc-full of away fans in the home end

I’m not saying that the process can’t be improved. That it should be improved at the earliest possible juncture. That certain checks & balances need to be refined next season.

But to call into question someone’s intelligence and commercial acumen, because you weren’t switched on enough to get a ticket is a fallacy.

*all of which are false btw
Again, polite request for STHs to not give it Billy big b***ocks over situations they do not have to deal with, nor have any idea as to how it works?
Cheers 👍🏻
 

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Again, polite request for STHs to not give it Billy big b***ocks over situations they do not have to deal with, nor have any idea as to how it works?
Cheers 👍🏻
Blimey, only first person complaints allowed now?
I can't speak for Marv but personally, I am a season ticket holder and I make it my business to understand all of this and have an opinion on it because it concerns how my friends and family access matches, so in a sense I feel a duty to "deal with it". And yes I fully understand hoe it works. One of my member friends is going to the next few games because I always warn them when tickets are going on sale. If olly knew a few more of us opinionated busy bodies he might not have forgotten the first two ticket windows for Man City and then had cause to moan that he was cheated out of a ticket by John Varney's poor work in window 3.

For what it's worth I do not think the club should still be selling memberships - we were so much stricter over this in the bad old days at GP - but I do think the system is a reasonable, if imperfect, compromise between access for all and rewarding loyalty. Maybe they'll find a better compromise next season.
 

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Blimey, only first person complaints allowed now?
I can't speak for Marv but personally, I am a season ticket holder and I make it my business to understand all of this and have an opinion on it because it concerns how my friends and family access matches, so in a sense I feel a duty to "deal with it". And yes I fully understand hoe it works. One of my member friends is going to the next few games because I always warn them when tickets are going on sale. If olly knew a few more of us opinionated busy bodies he might not have forgotten the first two ticket windows for Man City and then had cause to moan that he was cheated out of a ticket by John Varney's poor work in window 3.

For what it's worth I do not think the club should still be selling memberships - we were so much stricter over this in the bad old days at GP - but I do think the system is a reasonable, if imperfect, compromise between access for all and rewarding loyalty. Maybe they'll find a better compromise next season.
Can you not read. I HAVE MY TICKET :ROFLMAO: tranche 1 if you’re interested, just forgot what I ordered as it’s a regular occurrence … as does a lower tap member in tranche 3. Also it’s *Ollie.
 

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Can you not read. I HAVE MY TICKET :ROFLMAO: tranche 1 if you’re interested, just forgot what I ordered as it’s a regular occurrence … as does a lower tap member in tranche 3. Also it’s *Ollie.
Oh yes. Blimey this is confusing, I'm glad I'm not your personal assistant. Well you can be opinionated even when you've secured a ticket and I'll complain (or monitor, or otherwise) on behalf of my friends and family.
 

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My boss bought a membership this week and got Chelsea and City tickets, absolutely madness that this is allowed

Disgraceful.

Getting bored with how crap we are off the pitch when it comes to tickets sales and process.

Drop it to 50-100 TAPs required and no further then that for the Cat A games. It stops almost anyone whos not a Bees fan from getting one.

Just stupidity/
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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Blimey, only first person complaints allowed now?
I can't speak for Marv but personally, I am a season ticket holder and I make it my business to understand all of this and have an opinion on it because it concerns how my friends and family access matches, so in a sense I feel a duty to "deal with it". And yes I fully understand hoe it works. One of my member friends is going to the next few games because I always warn them when tickets are going on sale. If olly knew a few more of us opinionated busy bodies he might not have forgotten the first two ticket windows for Man City and then had cause to moan that he was cheated out of a ticket by John Varney's poor work in window 3.

For what it's worth I do not think the club should still be selling memberships - we were so much stricter over this in the bad old days at GP - but I do think the system is a reasonable, if imperfect, compromise between access for all and rewarding loyalty. Maybe they'll find a better compromise next season.
I didn't say that? I was making point of "because you weren't switched on enough to get a ticket" is a piss take.
If you don't have to deal with the system, insulting people f***ed over by the system is ridiculous.
Both myself and Ollie logged in before the correct time, and got booted to the back of a queue. People at ticket office can't even explain why! They told me as I was logged in that early I should've been at the front of the queue, but I wasn't!

Fans should be coming together to ensure that true Bees, lifelong fans, are getting priority over day trippers. Not insulting them.
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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Am I right in thinking Tottenham is the only catagory A game left that hasn't been on sale yet? Whilst Catagory B games have caused different issues as there is no TAP window it appears a lot of tickets end up on the exchange for the Catagory B matches.

Even if possible maybe there isn't much point changing the system now mid season.
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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Agree with your main point but there’s another home game less than a week after Man City.
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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We play Villa less then a week after and Wolves 3 and 1/2 weeks after.................................
 

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I didn't say that? I was making point of "because you weren't switched on enough to get a ticket" is a piss take.
If you don't have to deal with the system, insulting people f***ed over by the system is ridiculous.
Both myself and Ollie logged in before the correct time, and got booted to the back of a queue. People at ticket office can't even explain why! They told me as I was logged in that early I should've been at the front of the queue, but I wasn't!

Fans should be coming together to ensure that true Bees, lifelong fans, are getting priority over day trippers. Not insulting them.
I find the ticketing system stressful and I have a season ticket. My friends are members who work full time and are often in meetings when tickets are released in the middle of a weekday afternoon so I try and help them but we know we will likely be up against others accessing the site using specialist jump the queue software. So we are then all over the Exchange - which is no good if they want to bring their boys (also members).
The idea that members with no TAPs can just buy is daft. Sure new Members should be able to buy tickets but not to a prime game days after joining. If you are a Bees fan any game will work for you. If you bought as an away fan then thanks for the £40 and hope you enjoy a random fixture as a neutral later in the season.
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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....it should read won't....not can't....I don't care what the club promised members at start of season.... they've knowingly oversubscribed the membership scheme....it's pure greed on BFCs part....it's a complete rip off.....no way was supply ever going to meet demand....not even close....but BFC don't care about that.....they really don't.
 

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....it should read won't....not can't....I don't care what the club promised members at start of season.... they've knowingly oversubscribed the membership scheme....it's pure greed on BFCs part....it's a complete rip off.....no way was supply ever going to meet demand....not even close....but BFC don't care about that.....they really don't.
Of course they dont care.

Im guessing they must have the threat of relegation in the back of their minds and the reality that this could be our only time in the top flight...................................................... therefore milking it for all its worth.

Hope thats not the case though as it would be very short sighted and **** for all those true Bees struggling to get tickets.
 

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Of course they dont care.

Im guessing they must have the threat of relegation in the back of their minds and the reality that this could be our only time in the top flight...................................................... therefore milking it for all its worth.

Hope thats not the case though as it would be very short sighted and **** for all those true Bees struggling to get tickets.
....milking it is totally understandable...if the one season angle was the reason....but ripping people off isn't ok... maximising profit shouldn't equate to greed.
 

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With this being the last fixture of 2021 and the next home game is not for another 5+ weeks, would now not be the perfect time for BFC to review the current ticketing arrangements for members? It’s essentially the mid-point of the season so, IMO, not unreasonable to pause membership sign ups, work with supporters groups and amend the T&Cs for the remainder of the 21/22 season.

The whole “we can’t change it mid-season” doesn’t wash with me, I’m afraid. How many times have you received emails from companies saying something along the lines of “we’re writing to you as an existing user to advise you that we will be changing our T&Cs with effect from [DATE]. You don’t have to do anything. By continuing to use of our service, you automatically accept our new T&Cs”.

Offer pro rata refunds to anyone who doesn’t agree to the new T&Cs.

It really is as simple as that and they have plenty of time to undo the mess they’ve made and regain some of the goodwill they have lost from long standing supporters of the club who have been with us through thick and thin.

If you're reading this, Mr Varney, you can't say the below about rolling over the kit for two seasons in one breath and then refuse to make changes to the ticketing arrangements to ensure a fair allocation of tickets to legitimate fans of the club that both you and they love.

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Fully agree and is more-or-less exactly what I've said previously!

Trouble is all the big clubs are away in the 2nd half of the season...
 

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Am I right in thinking Tottenham is the only catagory A game left that hasn't been on sale yet? Whilst Catagory B games have caused different issues as there is no TAP window it appears a lot of tickets end up on the exchange for the Catagory B matches.

Even if possible maybe there isn't much point changing the system now mid season.

Agree with your main point but there’s another home game less than a week after Man City.

We play Villa less then a week after and Wolves 3 and 1/2 weeks after.................................

So we should wait until the season ends before making a change? That makes no sense to me.

The current system is broken and it does need fixing.

The benefits of pausing membership signups and establishing a new set of rules around membership entitlement (increased TAPS tiers for allocation, enforcement of resale penalties, established purchasing history and such like) fair outweigh the temporary inconvenience to prospective new "fans" or the ability for existing members to purchase a ticket for a match that doesn't take place for another 6 weeks.
 

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So we should wait until the season ends before making a change? That makes no sense to me.

The current system is broken and it does need fixing.

The benefits of pausing membership signups and establishing a new set of rules around membership entitlement (increased TAPS tiers for allocation, enforcement of resale penalties, established purchasing history and such like) fair outweigh the temporary inconvenience to prospective new "fans" or the ability for existing members to purchase a ticket for a match that doesn't take place for another 6 weeks.

Agreed. Just pointing out the Villa game comes soon after the City match. They should’ve stopped selling memberships at the start of the first international break, IMO.
 

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.... you're wasting your breath Ollie....arse licking sychophants never change....bet he's expecting a medal in the post from MB for single handedly saving BFC from financial ruin.
Already received the medal, thanks. But in all seriousness, salty bees fans who didn’t get what they wanted after every match, there’s ways of going about these things. From a fan perspective there are potential issues with the membership process at the moment. From a commercial perspective there are obvious benefits. I’m merely trying to see it from both sides.
Are you a STH?
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Again, polite request for STHs to not give it Billy big b***ocks over situations they do not have to deal with, nor have any idea as to how it works?
Cheers 👍🏻
Certainly not giving it large as a STH. My missus is a member, so I have a complete understanding of the membership processes etc. Anecdotally, she hasn’t missed a game at home this season, and gone to all the seats she has wanted to, from a meagre TAP position. So, if it’s important enough for members to get the maximum from their membership you absolutely can.
Disgraceful.

Getting bored with how crap we are off the pitch when it comes to tickets sales and process.

Drop it to 50-100 TAPs required and no further then that for the Cat A games. It stops almost anyone whos not a Bees fan from getting one.

Just stupidity/
I completely agree, but the ticketing rules will not be changed mid-season. The sooner everyone accepts that, the sooner we can look towards the future. As I mentioned above, if you really want a ticket for a match, you can get one.
So we should wait until the season ends before making a change? That makes no sense to me.

The current system is broken and it does need fixing.

The benefits of pausing membership signups and establishing a new set of rules around membership entitlement (increased TAPS tiers for allocation, enforcement of resale penalties, established purchasing history and such like) fair outweigh the temporary inconvenience to prospective new "fans" or the ability for existing members to purchase a ticket for a match that doesn't take place for another 6 weeks.
The benefits for whom? The benefits for the members whose money has already been secured. That is an emotional position of a fan, quite understandably, but it is not a business decision. Who covers the shortfall of half a season of memberships coming in? Do members all stump up an additional £20 to close the door to new members?
 

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Perhaps as we reach the halfway stage the club could stop new members joining, cancel memberships that are dubious, and offer all members who have bought tickets for all/almost all home games so far (having sifted out those reselling) the opportunity to buy a half season ST for £250. Then we’d just have a smaller allocation for occasionals, opposition fans etc to fight over and a better chance for regular fans who are currently just members to get away tickets.

(Take as read “notwithstanding we ‘can’t’ change the rules midseason)
 

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So we should wait until the season ends before making a change? That makes no sense to me.

The current system is broken and it does need fixing.

The benefits of pausing membership signups and establishing a new set of rules around membership entitlement (increased TAPS tiers for allocation, enforcement of resale penalties, established purchasing history and such like) fair outweigh the temporary inconvenience to prospective new "fans" or the ability for existing members to purchase a ticket for a match that doesn't take place for another 6 weeks.

I agree the club could do a lot of what you say around namely 'pausing memberships' and 'enforcement of resale penalties. However the benefits of the membership when sold and paid for can't be changed, and I don't expect it to be. What business can be seen to change a product when it hasn't as of yet reached the expiry date!

I do understand frustration of members but it's one for next season.
 

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... My missus is a member, so I have a complete understanding of the membership processes etc. Anecdotally, she hasn’t missed a game at home this season, and gone to all the seats she has wanted to, from a meagre TAP position. So, if it’s important enough for members to get the maximum from their membership you absolutely can.
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Could you tell us her trick? I've only got once more chance to see the Bees this season (home to Villa), and I'll be gutted if I miss out on that too.

Angry of Spain (700-ish TAPs)
 

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Could you tell us her trick? I've only got once more chance to see the Bees this season (home to Villa), and I'll be gutted if I miss out on that too.

Angry of Spain (700-ish TAPs)
Get online quickly and don’t be too picky about where you’ll sit?
 

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Certainly not giving it large as a STH. My missus is a member, so I have a complete understanding of the membership processes etc. Anecdotally, she hasn’t missed a game at home this season, and gone to all the seats she has wanted to, from a meagre TAP position. So, if it’s important enough for members to get the maximum from their membership you absolutely can.
I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I find it very hard to.
Being in the tranches you can get the ticket you like, yes, that's caused no problems. 50% for free for all has f***ed me (buying on behalf of family) for Chelsea, United and City. All whilst logged on in time, being "switched on" and willing to accept any ticket.
The only thing I have not tried is using a laptop/computer to purchase, as opposed to my phone, but that is almost impossible for me and really there should be no difference.

FWIW, insulting other fans intelligence because a system you don't have to deal with is crap definitely is giving it large as a STH
 

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Perhaps as we reach the halfway stage the club could stop new members joining, cancel memberships that are dubious, and offer all members who have bought tickets for all/almost all home games so far (having sifted out those reselling) the opportunity to buy a half season ST for £250. Then we’d just have a smaller allocation for occasionals, opposition fans etc to fight over and a better chance for regular fans who are currently just members to get away tickets.

(Take as read “notwithstanding we ‘can’t’ change the rules midseason)
Sales for the Arsenal, Liverpool, City, United and Chelsea games have all been and gone. Those are the ones that were obviously going to cause trouble with this system, and have.
I agree it needs to change, but a change now will make minimal difference and cause problems.
 

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Can we draw a line under the same old conversation proliferating across specific match threads once more please?
 

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Could you tell us her trick? I've only got once more chance to see the Bees this season (home to Villa), and I'll be gutted if I miss out on that too.

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Pretty much what @AB said. Can be slightly pickier and/or risk the exchange for Cat B matches. For Cat A: be there on time, know your way around the site, don’t be picky about where you sit (don’t try for the three together in S or W, because everyone will be going for them).

Just to illustrate, I’m in South Stand (STH), ideally would like to be in the same stand. These are the tickets my gf has got:

Arsenal (E) - all members sale
Brighton (S) - exchange
Liverpool (S) - purchased from another fan
Chelsea (S) - all members
Leicester (S) - exchange
Norwich (N) - all members sale
Everton (N) - purchased from another fan
Watford (S) - all members
Man Utd (N) - all members
Man City (E) - all members
 
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Already received the medal, thanks. But in all seriousness, salty bees fans who didn’t get what they wanted after every match, there’s ways of going about these things. From a fan perspective there are potential issues with the membership process at the moment. From a commercial perspective there are obvious benefits. I’m merely trying to see it from both sides.

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Certainly not giving it large as a STH. My missus is a member, so I have a complete understanding of the membership processes etc. Anecdotally, she hasn’t missed a game at home this season, and gone to all the seats she has wanted to, from a meagre TAP position. So, if it’s important enough for members to get the maximum from their membership you absolutely can.

I completely agree, but the ticketing rules will not be changed mid-season. The sooner everyone accepts that, the sooner we can look towards the future. As I mentioned above, if you really want a ticket for a match, you can get one.

The benefits for whom? The benefits for the members whose money has already been secured. That is an emotional position of a fan, quite understandably, but it is not a business decision. Who covers the shortfall of half a season of memberships coming in? Do members all stump up an additional £20 to close the door to new members?
....fair enough.... apologies for being over zealous.....not personal..... emotive issue for me....we move on squire.
 

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Yeah the current process could definitely be improved! Even if the next level was set at something like 50 TAPs it would still ensure more "actual" fans had the opportunity. And maybe keep 10% back for a bunfight for all members so it's not a completely closed shop.
how would someone ever come to their first Brentford league match?
 

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how would someone ever come to their first Brentford league match?
I was talking about the process for the cat A matches. The Cat B matches just go straight on sale to all members anyway.
 

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how would someone ever come to their first Brentford league match?
Go to a couple of friendlies in preseason or a distant away that goes on general sale to all members first.
 
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how would someone ever come to their first Brentford league match?

Cat B should be option for these people to build up points and CAT A certainly should have a restriction against it with TAPs.

You would only need to attend/purchase tickets for say 5 CAT B games to get enough points to buy CAT A in future.
 

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Go to a couple of friendlies in preseason or a distant away that goes on general sale to all members first.
Cup games too. Plenty of easy ways for a new fan to "earn it" whilst removing chancers.
Not sure it does too much in the way of removing touts, but will eat at their profits atleast and make them consider if its worth it
 

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Can we draw a line under the same old conversation proliferating across specific match threads once more please?

Apparently not !

I actually didn’t even realise it was a Man City thread until I saw this

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