Man Utd POSTPONED!

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Actually want to play them will all thier stars, loads want to see Ronaldo in the flesh a let down if he don't pitch.
My only interest is Brentford.

There was a crowd pic of Ronaldo celebrating at Norwich. Virtually all the home fans were taking his pic... Only two could be spotted giving him grief.

Hoping we are not that sad.
 

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....ok....COVID criteria then....special circumstances.....tear that handbook up guv'nor.
That is the handbook re COVID. Except for a caveat that "there's a pandemic, we may have to employ that Masi bloke to make up the rules".
 

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That is the handbook re COVID. Except for a caveat that "there's a pandemic, we may have to employ that Masi bloke to make up the rules".
....let's hope so....games bound to go ahead.
 

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Reading on Twitter that it’s Mata and Matic that have covid. No clue how reliable that is though as it’s just chat amongst United fans.
Neither of whom are first eleven players … still don’t understand why they extended mata’s contract when he is nowhere near their first eleven now
 

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....ok....COVID criteria then....special circumstances.....tear that handbook up guv'nor.

Didn’t they have 9 cases within the playing staff? So presuming they have at least 3 ‘normal’ injuries within the 25 man squad (looking at their squad list on FPL there are a few out with muscle injuries or knocks), they could easily have under 14 players from the 25 man squad available.
 

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If there are enough players in the squad who can play plus 7 subs and at least one GK then the game should go ahead.
 

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Didn’t they have 9 cases within the playing staff? So presuming they have at least 3 ‘normal’ injuries within the 25 man squad (looking at their squad list on FPL there are a few out with muscle injuries or knocks), they could easily have under 14 players from the 25 man squad available.
....are you citing the case for that of Spurs.....if so....my understanding is that the FA took advice from their medical team...regarding risk....that's why their game was called off.
 

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Didn’t they have 9 cases within the playing staff? So presuming they have at least 3 ‘normal’ injuries within the 25 man squad (looking at their squad list on FPL there are a few out with muscle injuries or knocks), they could easily have under 14 players from the 25 man squad available.
Yes but loads of their kids have played in the Europa conference.

I imagine it was on the basis that it would weaken the integrity of the competition if they fielded a sub that was clearly weak.
 

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If there are enough players in the squad who can play plus 7 subs and at least one GK then the game should go ahead.
Totally agree! This sort of situation is going to continue for the next few months, and we all, including the clubs, better get used to it, or we shall start to hear calls for the season to be abandoned from the likes of Newcastle etc. If necessary we can all play under 23's if required, it will be the same for all. The clubs need to reimpose a strict COVD protocol, and ensure that the players follow it as per last season.
 

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Tbh, that’s no bad thing. Rest for the squad if the game is off and we go again for Saints.
It is a bad thing. There will be a fixture pile up. It is in the interest of Manchester United the German Boss wants time to sort his mess of a team out and get to January.
 

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Presumably they met the criteria for having a game called off.
One must assume so.

But re your post #97 (lists the criteria), under Nuno, Spurs played complete Reserve/U-23 teams in the early rounds of the Conference League (afaik the 1st XI didn't even travel for aways).

As a result, I've counted 35 players who've made a senior appearance. This includes a few kids who came on as a late sub for a few minutes in Europe, but even discounting them, there are still well over 14 players remaining after you exclude the (reported) 8 players out with Covid.

Therefore it can only be that at least 2 of their goalkeepers were amongst the 8, leaving just one or none available.

Bees better hope that De Gea and Henderson (or 3rd/4th choice gks?) haven't gone down with Covid.
 

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Totally agree! This sort of situation is going to continue for the next few months, and we all, including the clubs, better get used to it, or we shall start to hear calls for the season to be abandoned from the likes of Newcastle etc. If necessary we can all play under 23's if required, it will be the same for all. The clubs need to reimpose a strict COVD protocol, and ensure that the players follow it as per last season.
....if the FA listen to calls from Newcastle....then as supporters of the beautiful game we're doomed....anyway....back in the room....let's hope our game goes ahead.....no better time for us to be playing any team....Man U or otherwise.
 

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....are you citing the case for that of Spurs.....if so....my understanding is that the FA took advice from their medical team...regarding risk....that's why their game was called off.
Yep and I think I know what you are getting at. I agree and wouldn’t be surprised if the illnesses and injuries were inflated or exaggerated to meet the requirement to get the game off. I think any club would do the same though, including us.

If United just have Matic and Mata out they will want the game played, the ‘big’ 6 moan about the fixture schedules enough as it is - they won’t want to create a backlog into the new year.
 

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there are still well over 14 players remaining after you exclude the (reported) 8 players out with Covid.
So therefore the PL must have satisfied themselves that there were far more than 8 players out with Covid.

But I remind you that this is the MUFC thread. So TRY and keep it close to topic.
 

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Yep and I think I know what you are getting at. I agree and wouldn’t be surprised if the illnesses and injuries were inflated or exaggerated to meet the requirement to get the game off. I think any club would do the same though, including us.

If United just have Matic and Mata out they will want the game played, the ‘big’ 6 moan about the fixture schedules enough as it is - they won’t want to create a backlog into the new year.
....tbf mate....I have no idea what United's MO is.....but the good news is.....neither do they.
 

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Also if you have fewer than 14 players available then

Further, in respect of any application by a Club to reschedule or postpone a League Match due to concerns regarding insufficient Squad List Players, the Board will also give consideration to:

i. The number of registered Under 21 Players (and their relevant experience) available to the Club at the relevant time. Clubs will be expected to utilise appropriately experienced Under 21 Players. This will include any Under 21 Player who has made a first team appearance for:

a. The Club
b. Another Premier League or EFL club
c. An overseas club


So any U21 that has appeared in a first team match is added to the 14.

So if you played 11 kids in the EFL Cup, or the Europa League then those 11 kids count as available players

Therefore, unlikely that this match will be postponed....
So how many did Spurs have out the other day, does anyone know ?
 

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Realistically when will a decision have to be made regarding this game? By tomorrow afternoon or some other time?
 

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Realistically when will a decision have to be made regarding this game? By tomorrow afternoon or some other time?
........when the FA announce it.....as it stands....the game is still on.....and when Sir Nick sees this thread tomorrow....for once...... it won't be rain,snow or ice that will be giving the man palpitations.
 

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Can't see Ralf crying out for it to be postponed. More of the character to suck it up and get on with it. Conte on otherhand....
 

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Therefore it can only be that at least 2 of their goalkeepers were amongst the 8, leaving just one or none available.

Bees better hope that De Gea and Henderson (or 3rd/4th choice gks?) haven't gone down with Covid.
I think this is right- games will get cancelled if all the keepers in a squad who’ve had a first team appearance are tested positive. By the specialist nature of the role De Gea et al probably train a lot with each other so if one gets it they might well all.
 

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I think this is right- games will get cancelled if all the keepers in a squad who’ve had a first team appearance are tested positive. By the specialist nature of the role De Gea et al probably train a lot with each other so if one gets it they might well all.
Henderson had it bad in July. I know you can catch it twice but would strengthen his antibodies.
 

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Yes but loads of their kids have played in the Europa conference.

I imagine it was on the basis that it would weaken the integrity of the competition if they fielded a sub that was clearly weak.
Wouldn’t all their games so far this season have been PP if that was the case?
 

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Sounds like the Solsjkaer days all over again...

Rangnick will love the idea of having the match postponed so he can:

a) get the players individually working on getting to the fitness levels he requires

b) dip into the transfer market for some better defenders/defensive midfielders

c) get them working as a team

I assume his brief for the season is to get them into the top 4 and CL football, and the more matches he has with them after Xmas the more chance he has of achieving this.

Funnily enough, exactly the same applies to Conte at Spurs, except it's Europa Conference they are aiming for ;)
 

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No, but their training ground was closed. Which means that postponement is more likely IIUI

Hmmm. Link was posted earlier this morning saying no Man Utd players had been seen to report for training before 09:30 ish.
 

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Game will go ahead. Nearly less than 24hrs before kick off. Would be ridiculous to postpone with such little time left.
 

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Unfortunately the big boys will get their wishes, they will hold too much power and will throw their weight around.
Little old Brentford on the other could be decimated by injuries and Covid and we would just be laughed at for not having a big enough squad and forced to play the match.
Its not right, they are clearly milking it but what can you do about it.
 

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It is a bad thing. There will be a fixture pile up. It is in the interest of Manchester United the German Boss wants time to sort his mess of a team out and get to January.
There won’t be a fixture pile up for us. The only fixture pile up we have relatively speaking is this month?
 

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The Premier League will decide on a case by case basis whether a game should be postponed or not. I haven't seen anything to suggest it should be...a small number of cases isn't a huge number, and the Premier League will want the game to go ahead for the TV broadcast reasons. They may have lost a couple but so have we.
 

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Game will go ahead. Nearly less than 24hrs before kick off. Would be ridiculous to postpone with such little time left.
If a load more players return positive tests, they'll have no choice if it compromises the safety of all other players (including ours!).. I agree it would however be ridiculous should there be no change in circumstances from yesterday.
 

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Nasty outbreak of Brentford Flu in Mancland? 😁 I know it’s a serious matter, but after years of wondering whether our southern softies can handle midwinter Tuesday nights oop north, the boot being on the other foot has rather amused me this morning 🙃
 
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