Managerial Moves 2021/22

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The special one can't have long left. 3-1 up vs Juv at home and concede 3 goals in 7 minutes to lose 3-4.
Languishing in 7th. Well away from CL qualification spot.
Back in the day you'd have needed to have watched 10 of those games to see 7 goals!

And before yesterday, Roma had already let in 3 goals in Serie A games vs Verona, Lazio, Venezia, Inter and AC Milan - all defeats. So much for the manager who made his name grinding out 1-0 wins with 35% possession! :LOL:
 

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Emergency Board Meeting at Everton this evening.
Means he’ll be available for Watford (due at least one more manager this season) or Newcastle.
 

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Means he’ll be available for Watford (due at least one more manager this season) or Newcastle.
I reckon he’ll replace Eddie…
 

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Fairly well connected Toffee I know on twitter reckons Rooney is a done deal, possibly with McClaren as assistant alongside Given as GK coach
 

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Fairly well connected Toffee I know on twitter reckons Rooney is a done deal, possibly with McClaren as assistant alongside Given as GK coach
Mcclaren? 🤦‍♂️
 

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Something really wrong at Everton. Sure Benitiez was under pressure and probably right he went. But what were the board doing sanctioning the sale of Digne?
 

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Something really wrong at Everton. Sure Benitiez was under pressure and probably right he went. But what were the board doing sanctioning the sale of Digne?
As well as spending around £35m on two new full backs :) .
 

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Something really wrong at Everton. Sure Benitiez was under pressure and probably right he went. But what were the board doing sanctioning the sale of Digne?
Everton have loyal and passionate fans ( who mainly live locally) but they have a somewhat deluded view of their status and believe they are Liverpool's equal, hence why they can turn on their own manager and players very quickly. I have been to Goodison a few times and it can turn toxic very quickly. Appointing Benitez was never going to work being a former Liverpool manager and kind of indicates how out of touch the Board/ owner is.
 

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Everton have loyal and passionate fans ( who mainly live locally) but they have a somewhat deluded view of their status and believe they are Liverpool's equal, hence why they can turn on their own manager and players very quickly. I have been to Goodison a few times and it can turn toxic very quickly. Appointing Benitez was never going to work being a former Liverpool manager and kind of indicates how out of touch the Board/ owner is.
This is right but I do think it a bit strange how fans immediately object to having a manager who had great success at their rivals. Does anyone genuinely think they’d try not to do well in their new job? About the only instance where this suspicion was true to an extent was Clough at Leeds but that was because he was openly contemptuous of everything Leeds had achieved. He had very strong ideas about trashing it AND achieving “proper” success. He also managed to go from taking Derby to a title to doing even more at their deadly rival.

Would Everton fans decide to hate Salah if he made the trip across Stanley Park? Or would they crow over having bagged one of the greatest players of the age from their biggest rival? Given a few on 606 were talking about Rooney “owing” them for having gone to Man U, perhaps they’re silly enough to do the former.
 

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Fairly well connected Toffee I know on twitter reckons Rooney is a done deal, possibly with McClaren as assistant alongside Given as GK coach
A lifeboat just in time it may seem for Rooney. If he goes what poor bloke is going to take Derby. At least Rooney has been there since the crap got worse. A new manager could be in for a few more surprises like Rooney was. Derby is going to be a hard sell.
 

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A lifeboat just in time it may seem for Rooney. If he goes what poor bloke is going to take Derby. At least Rooney has been there since the crap got worse. A new manager could be in for a few more surprises like Rooney was. Derby is going to be a hard sell.
If I were Rooney I’d stay at Derby until the end of the season. He can only learn a lot and enhance his reputation as a manager there even if they go down. If he keeps them up it’ll be a huge achievement. He will one day get to be Everton manager but if he goes now and takes them down he’ll have probably lost his chance. They look a mess off the pitch so even if he keeps them up it’d be a tough job to do much at longer term and at his age why would he potentially trash his reputation at his boyhood club?
 

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If I were Rooney I’d stay at Derby until the end of the season. He can only learn a lot and enhance his reputation as a manager there even if they go down. If he keeps them up it’ll be a huge achievement. He will one day get to be Everton manager but if he goes now and takes them down he’ll have probably lost his chance. They look a mess off the pitch so even if he keeps them up it’d be a tough job to do much at longer term and at his age why would he potentially trash his reputation at his boyhood club?
If he leaves now he doesn’t have a relegation on his cv. There’s no way he won’t take the Everton job if offered it and I think he’ll keep them up.
 

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This is right but I do think it a bit strange how fans immediately object to having a manager who had great success at their rivals. Does anyone genuinely think they’d try not to do well in their new job?
The main problem was that when he was L'pool manager, he made remarks about EFC which riled the latter's fans eg "Everton are a small club".

That had to hurt (the truth often does!), meaning that at best he was only ever going to be grudgingly accepted while they were winning games, but the moment they started losing.... :eek:

I think there was also a recognition that he would not have considered EFC had his career not been on the slide - no-one wants to be considered "sloppy seconds", made worse by the suspicion that had he done well with them, he'd have been off again the moment a bigger club came calling.
 

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I forget who the bookies had as front runners when DS left, but if Thomas fell under a bus (oh the irony) and the favourites were Mourinho, Lampard and Rooney, I would be seriously disenthused.

And as for Tim Cahill becoming a senior executive, I mean why?
 

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The main problem was that when he was L'pool manager, he made remarks about EFC which riled the latter's fans eg "Everton are a small club".

That had to hurt (the truth often does!), meaning that at best he was only ever going to be grudgingly accepted while they were winning games, but the moment they started losing.... :eek:

I think there was also a recognition that he would not have considered EFC had his career not been on the slide - no-one wants to be considered "sloppy seconds", made worse by the suspicion that had he done well with them, he'd have been off again the moment a bigger club came calling.

No the main problem is the board do not have a clue what they are doing. They sacked their Director of Football, Head of Recruitment, Chief Scout and Head of medical to give more power and autonomy to Rafa and then subsequently sacked him a few weeks later.

Now they are up sh*t creek.
 

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No the main problem is the board do not have a clue what they are doing. They sacked their Director of Football, Head of Recruitment, Chief Scout and Head of medical to give more power and autonomy to Rafa and then subsequently sacked him a few weeks later.

Now they are up sh*t creek.
I know that. Everyone knows that (except, perhaps, the Board itself).

I was referring to the EFC fans, and why they never gave Benitez a chance, and were never likely to.
 

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I know that. Everyone knows that (except, perhaps, the Board itself).

I was referring to the EFC fans, and why they never gave Benitez a chance, and were never likely to.
They are deluded, they turned on Martinez when they finished 11th because the previous season they finished 5th. Now they want him back.
 

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That's never going to happen. They'll back him to turn it round....
You know this is Watford, right? They change managers more often than Downing Street has parties!

Burnley and Brighton in next 3 games - if he doesn't win at least one of those, he'll be gone. May not even be there by then, with the break coming up.
 

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You know this is Watford, right? They change managers more often than Downing Street has parties!

Burnley and Brighton in next 3 games - if he doesn't win at least one of those, he'll be gone. May not even be there by then, with the break coming up.

I was being somewhat sarcastic
 

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You know this is Watford, right? They change managers more often than Downing Street has parties!

Burnley and Brighton in next 3 games - if he doesn't win at least one of those, he'll be gone. May not even be there by then, with the break coming up.
:whoosh:
 

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John Sheridan back at Oldham.

Again...

Destination Non League

Sad times for the Latics
 

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A shame as a decent bloke but he knew Watford's way of working and treatment of staff these days. Hope he negotiated a good pay-off.

Way back in the 1980s I represented their then chairman. From top to bottom a very well run club in those days.
 

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Not working for them and they need saving but still I find the hiring/firing cycle at Watford utterly bizarre. I've seen some Watford fans defend it as "it's what we do" but honestly it's not good
 
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