Managerial Moves 2021/22

Ealing Bee

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Bruce is next
You'd think.

Except that Ashley is trying to sell the club, so any pay-off to Bruce is money he won't get back.

And if he appoints a "Poundshop" replacement, that could drag them even further down (i.e. lower sale price).

While if he spends big on a "name" replacement, he might not get the cost back from any buyer - esp if they have someone of their own lined up.

It's a bit like if you're selling your house - your not going to replace the crappy old boiler in advance of the sale unless you absolutely have to.
 

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Understandable…….
They lost to Leeds didn’t they……??…….
I watched the game. Watford were abject. There seemed to be no plan, poor execution of the basics and very little desire from the players.

Add to that that sacking managers is Watford's MO, I am not in the slightest bit surprised
 

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I watched the game. Watford were abject. There seemed to be no plan, poor execution of the basics and very little desire from the players.

Add to that that sacking managers is Watford's MO, I am not in the slightest bit surprised
I think the clue was in the club statement:
"The board feels recent performances strongly indicate a negative trend at a time when team cohesion should be visibly improving,"

(Lack of) "Team cohesion" sounds like he'd lost the dressing room and I suppose if they can't or won't bring in new players in January, then replacing the manager instead is probably the only other option open to them if they're to save this season.

None of which excuses how they got into this mess in the first place.
 

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Ashley is trying to sell the club, so any pay-off to Bruce is money he won't get back.
(If I may quote my own post) It seems Bruce has got a pretty watertight contract:

"Steve Bruce is refusing to budge from his lucrative rolling contract at Newcastle United.

And Mike Ashley knows the only way to change head coach will be to pay out almost all of Bruce's tightly woven contractual agreement he agreed in July 2019.

Ashley would have to shell out an astronomical fee to free the way for Bruce and his coaches Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence to go."
The only way Newcastle will part company with Bruce during international break
 

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Ranieri in at Watford. I wish him the best for his 10 months he’ll have there
Change your name to 'superoptimistbee'.

I give him 5 months max. They will sink like a stone now, then Watford will throw money at someone else around March (big Sam anyone) to do a Houdini when they're in the bottom 3.

Did a great job at Leicester - right time, place and all the cards fell into place. Seems a really nice man. However - he's done nothing of note anywhere else in the PL.
 

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Terrible appointment IMO .. lucked out at Leicester and has done naff all since . I’ll give him 6 months.
I’ll see your 6 months and raise you 3 (not sure if that works..)

This seems like an awful appointment. Mind you, why would an up and coming young manager be interested in the role, knowing they will not be given any time? Ranieri must be on the verge of retirement. I wonder if they considered Roy. Perhaps he’s next..

In the next 2 months they have Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea and City. Interspersed are Southampton and Leicester look a little easier. Then they play us…
 

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In the next 2 months they have Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea and City. Interspersed are Southampton and Leicester look a little easier. Then they play us…
I know they already have 7 points on the board - decent enough, I suppose - but unless Claudio produces a "new manager bounce", they and Norwich could be some way adrift at the bottom of the table by the time they come to the BCS.
 

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I know they already have 7 points on the board - decent enough, I suppose - but unless Claudio produces a "new manager bounce", they and Norwich could be some way adrift at the bottom of the table by the time they come to the BCS.
I presume that run of fixtures is the reason why they acted now, as it had been obvious for some time that Munoz wasn't the most tactically adroit coach (their lot were saying as much in their Championship run-in btw).

CR's first task will be to tighten them up defensively and make them competitive against top half teams, something XM never looked capable of.

Stan Collymoron made out it is was irrational sacking given they were on 7 from 7, but for me it was the owners acting quickly to avoid a WBA situation like last season.

I still think they'll go down btw.
 

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I wonder if they considered Roy. Perhaps he’s next..
I very much doubt it, I think they have a rule where their manager’s name must score a minimum of 20 points in Scrabble

Xisco Munoz (30 points) 👏
Quique Sanchez Flores (54 points) ….excellent! 👏👏👏
Javi Gracia (23)
Vladimir Ivic (23)
Walter Mazzarri (37) 👏👏
Slavisa Jokanovic (35) 👏👏

Claudio Ranieri (17)……what, that can’t be right how can they make such an appointment 🤣🤣🤣
 

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I’m happy with the Watford appointment.

I have money on them to go down
Not too many would scoff at hiring a premier league winning manager. Dont think the manager is the problem there
 

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I don't see it working really...and I don't see the issue with Munoz. One bad performance doesn't mean anything, and they've started the season fine. I feel with Raneiri they're expecting more than they'll get, and will let him go by the end of the season.
 

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I presume that run of fixtures is the reason why they acted now, as it had been obvious for some time that Munoz wasn't the most tactically adroit coach (their lot were saying as much in their Championship run-in btw).

CR's first task will be to tighten them up defensively and make them competitive against top half teams, something XM never looked capable of.

Stan Collymoron made out it is was irrational sacking given they were on 7 from 7, but for me it was the owners acting quickly to avoid a WBA situation like last season.

I still think they'll go down btw.
So do I but not sure Ranieri is going to improve their chances of survival if honest
 

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Chris Beech departs Carlisle.

10 years ago, Carlisle beat us 1-0 in the JPT final following another Wembley no show from the Bees. Fast forward to now and we’re 7th in the PL and they are 22nd in League 2.

Actually, we’re now at least a division above every team that has beaten us in the play offs or EFL Trophy final.

Wigan
Tranmere
Huddersfield
Crewe
Port Vale
Stoke
Sheffield Wednesday
Swansea
Carlisle
Yeovil
Middlesbrough
Fulham

 
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Chris Beech departs Carlisle.

10 years ago, Carlisle beat us 1-0 in the JPT final following another Wembley no show from the Bees. Fast forward to now and we’re 7th in the PL and they are 22nd in League 2.

Actually, we’re now at least a division above every team that has beaten us in the play offs or EFL Trophy final.

Wigan
Tranmere
Huddersfield
Crewe
Port Vale
Stoke
Sheffield Wednesday
Swansea
Carlisle
Yeovil
Middlesbrough
Fulham


Nice to see Doncaster rock bottom of League one as well.
Showed zero class after the Trotta cross bar incident.
 

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[QUOTE="Untouchable, post: 3873786, member: 1675
10 years ago, Carlisle beat us 1-0 in the JPT final following another Wembley no show from the Bees. Fast forward to now and we’re 7th in the PL and they are 22nd in League 2.

Actually, we’re now at least a division above every team that has beaten us in the play offs or EFL Trophy final.

Wigan
Tranmere
Huddersfield
Crewe
Port Vale
Stoke
Sheffield Wednesday
Swansea
Carlisle
Yeovil
Middlesbrough
Fulham
[/QUOTE]
Why did it take so long? I thought ‘Swings and roundabouts’ would have come back a bit quicker.
 

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Made the paths our two clubs followed since that day even sweeter.
I had a really nice chat with 2 Donny fans on the train from Leeds on their way to Rotherham as I was heading to Villa park, one was the editor of Popular Side their equivalent of Beesotted, chatted about ‘that’ game, they were both there, and the differences in our progress since. Both were delighted at us being where we were and genuinely interested in the way we’d done it.
Amongst some obvious jealousy from other clubs theres also admiration and respect for the hope our story gives.
 

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"Newport County have appointed Cardiff City's first team coach James Rowberry as their new manager.

The 36-year-old will watch the club's League Two match against Carlisle at Rodney Parade on Tuesday evening.
Wayne Hatswell has been in caretaker charge since the departure of Mike Flynn after almost five years in charge at the beginning of October.

Newport-born Rowberry was a youth player at the club and previously coached in County's academy."

Cardiff's Rowberry named Newport boss

Curious that he isn't sticking around at Cardiff, since he's not one of Mick Mc's coaching team, so might have hoped to step up if/when Mick Mc gets the chop (after another thumping tomorrow evening at Craven Cottage?)

Certainly the local press were 'bigging him up' last year:
The Cardiff City coaching prodigy with a huge future ahead of him
 

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Rowberry must’ve been tipped off that he didn’t have a job wef next week!
Cardiff lining up another ‘name’ together with his team of coaches? If they wait just a bit longer, then they could get OGS back again….
 

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How long before Cowley gets the chop at Portsmouth?

Skates lost 4-0 at home to Ipswich last night, and have dropped to 17th.
 

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Hate to say it but Cooper doing a good job at Forest since his arrival
A draw and 4 wins since he took over and all of a sudden they’re only 4 points from the play off places.

Oh well, will make it all the sweeter when they blow it again.
 

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Big Sam..till the end of the season..he could be the only person to keep Newcastle in the prem....
 

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BBC
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Breaking : Newcastle Utd : 'A club with incredible support'​

Here is Steve Bruce's statement following the announcement he would be leaving the club by mutual consent:
"I am grateful to everyone connected with Newcastle United for the opportunity to manage this unique football club.
"I would like to thank my coaching team, the players and the support staff in particular for all their hard work. There have been highs and lows, but they have given everything even in difficult moments and should be proud of their efforts.
"This is a club with incredible support, and I hope the new owners can take it forward to where we all want it to be. I wish everyone the very best of luck for the rest of this season and beyond."

Jones to take interim charge​

The club also confirm that Graeme Jones will take charge of the team on an interim basis.
He will be supported by Steve Agnew, Stephen Clemence, Ben Dawson and Simon Smith.

Who'll be a-coming ???
 

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Big Sam..till the end of the season..he could be the only person to keep Newcastle in the prem....

Ashley had it written into the sale agreement that if they got rid of Bruce, they would have to appoint Big Sam or Colin on a 5 year deal.
Now, that would be the ultimate trolling of the fans who wanted him out 😂
 

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Eddie Howe one of the first linked.
 
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