HaylingBee74
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No surprise Marcus replaced with a more defense minded player at HT
It's this simple... Okay maybe not Maupay.. but more on mould of Hogan. He is a typical fox in the box striker playing off last man. Doesn't currently suit our style but has bags of potential in a different system. Does it make him a bad player no. It's the same with Hali doesn't suit our current system but clearly has bags of potential.It's the simple facts are he simply doesn't suit our current style. Replace him into the Maupay side and he scores 20+ .
I won't criticise him for that.
Not in squad 2nite !Forss off as sub at half time.
Guess to accommodate the red card that the side got.
They play on Tuesday?Not in squad 2nite !
I think it says it all really.... We all know Forss is a fantastic finisher, possibly our best.... but at this level does not offer enough in terms of his all round game to start in the premier league in my opinion. That is also an opinion that Thomas shares, evidently.A kick in the teeth for Marcus today with Ivan missing?
Or just horses for courses?
Thomas Frank has his ways to choose players, so I would not be surprised if Forss was not playing. Personally I hope Marcus moves on, and even if he would not be succesful somewhere else, at least he could play more and not wasting his time waiting for the opportunity that never comes with Brentford and Thomas Frank.With Canos and Toney unavailable next match, Wissa not fit enough to start, Forss may get his chance. And I really hope he takes it
Who says Wissa is not fit enough to start? He wasn’t on Sunday but is working towards that goal and Friday may be the time he is considered ready…With Canos and Toney unavailable next match, Wissa not fit enough to start, Forss may get his chance. And I really hope he takes it
He was recently given a long contract, can't see him going anywhere. Said to be the best finisher in the club, by the manager and coaches, so highly rated.Thomas Frank has his ways to choose players, so I would not be surprised if Forss was not playing. Personally I hope Marcus moves on, and even if he would not be succesful somewhere else, at least he could play more and not wasting his time waiting for the opportunity that never comes with Brentford and Thomas Frank.
As a side note; Thomas Frank also has his (or somebody else's) way to use the formation as he likes, and kind of using players in certain positions no matter if it works or not... kind of stubborn way which is not wrong or right, just a way to do things. If Canos was not injured in October 2019, we would not have had our dynamic BMW-striking force as it was, maybe it would have been known as infamous BCW or something, nobody knows.
I don’t think Forss is wasting his time here.Thomas Frank has his ways to choose players, so I would not be surprised if Forss was not playing. Personally I hope Marcus moves on, and even if he would not be succesful somewhere else, at least he could play more and not wasting his time waiting for the opportunity that never comes with Brentford and Thomas Frank.
As a side note; Thomas Frank also has his (or somebody else's) way to use the formation as he likes, and kind of using players in certain positions no matter if it works or not... kind of stubborn way which is not wrong or right, just a way to do things. If Canos was not injured in October 2019, we would not have had our dynamic BMW-striking force as it was, maybe it would have been known as infamous BCW or something, nobody knows.
You are absolutely right, he has not come close to his peak value, unfortunate for the club.From the club’s perspective it’s also clear that Marcus is viewed as an asset that hasn’t come close to reaching his peak value yet. Had we not been promoted last season he would have been our first choice striker, likely scored 20+ goals as a 22/23 year old and been worth a fortune.
I do think it would be nice to get him out on loan for the second half of the season, perhaps even outside of our domestic pyramid somewhere. But that will just depend on the fitness of other options in January and whether we feel someone like Brook or NYC can step up from the B team in an emergency or not.
He's def got the work rate but agree re creativity.Forss probably only works in a front three. He doesn’t have the work rate or creativity to play in a front two - all imho of course.
I just don’t think he’s good enough at this level and whether he will ever be I don’t know.If I was Forss I'd be banging on TFs door asking for a January loan.
It's a difficult one. The lad is a born finisher but must be very frustrated re his lack of game time.
I think we need to find a way to accommodate him. He is a lethal finisher, build the front 3 around him (while Ivan's out) IMHO
Be interesting to see how we set up on Friday
I tend to agreeI just don’t think he’s good enough at this level and whether he will ever be I don’t know.
Someone needs to tell the Guardian he signed a 6 year contract only 12 months ago. Unless they mean a loan…He's on a Guardian Fun List of players who'd do well to move on.
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Premier League players who would benefit from a January transfer
These 20 out-of-favour players should be looking to jump ship in January and pursue regular gametime at new clubswww.theguardian.com
I doubt he’s going anywhere. But if he was, a loan in January to Coventry would be a good fit for him. If we were to get Halil back from his loan.Someone needs to tell the Guardian he signed a 6 year contract only 12 months ago. Unless they mean a loan…
Absolutely right.He was recently given a long contract, can't see him going anywhere. Said to be the best finisher in the club, by the manager and coaches, so highly rated.
I agree we need better and he needs to play at a lower level.He's on a Guardian Fun List of players who'd do well to move on.
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Premier League players who would benefit from a January transfer
These 20 out-of-favour players should be looking to jump ship in January and pursue regular gametime at new clubswww.theguardian.com
Would be shocked if he’s preferred to Wissa when he hasn’t played a minute since NorwichThomas Frank said he was v close to a start v Leeds and has been training well.. Hint for tomorrow?
I wouldn't be given Wissa is only just back from injury and probably not quite match fit.. Sure it'll cause a major pant-wetting session on here and on social media if he does though!Would be shocked if he’s preferred to Wissa when he hasn’t played a minute since Norwich
Having a different view is not pants wetting.I wouldn't be given Wissa is only just back from injury and probably not quite match fit.. Sure it'll cause a major pant-wetting session on here and on social media if he does though!![]()
It is if differs from Mr Cynical's viewHaving a different view is not pants wetting.
Depends if you’re very young, or very old!Having a different view is not pants wetting.
Has played well internationally including a great goal against arguably the best side in Europe. Hope he gets a start tomorrow and really hope that he impresses.I agree we need better and he needs to play at a lower level.
Lol fair point but who is going to start up front with Bryan tomorrow? Maybe CharlieIf with 15 minutes to go we need a goal, how about bringing both Marcus & Yoane on at the same time. In the League Cup they have combined well together, and hey its only Watford![]()
Lol fair point but who is going to start up front with Bryan tomorrow? Maybe Charlie![]()
Would be a good idea if we had more than one other striker who can play the other 75 mins with BryanIf with 15 minutes to go we need a goal, how about bringing both Marcus & Yoane on at the same time. In the League Cup they have combined well together, and hey its only Watford![]()
Nothing wrong with having a different view.. was merely referring to the inevitable wailing and gnashing of teeth on here and twitter if he does start.. Similar to the reactions to Goode starting I suspect...Having a different view is not pants wetting.
It is if differs from Mr Cynical's view
How do you guarantee he gets minutes on the pitch in games, loan him where?Really think he just needs a run of games, a loan move would be perfect. It's been a long time (nearly 2 years now I think) since he was playing regularly and not just a few minutes off the bench. Promotion was maybe a bad thing for his chances of being a starter.
Has played well internationally including a great goal against arguably the best side in Europe. Hope he gets a start tomorrow and really hope that he impresses.
Am sure there are some clubs in the Championship that would take him, as for how do we ensure he gets time? Well he'd have to earn it obviously (unless we do what other Prem sides do and charge a fee if he doesn't play) but he'd probably be more likely to get game time in the Championship than with us in the 2nd half of the year. Simple fact is that he's very unlikely to develop much with just the odd game very 2 or 3 months here sadly.How do you guarantee he gets minutes on the pitch in games, loan him where?
Good point but let's see if we think the same this time tomorrow night. It's Marcus time tomorrow.Am sure there are some clubs in the Championship that would take him, as for how do we ensure he gets time? Well he'd have to earn it obviously (unless we do what other Prem sides do and charge a fee if he doesn't play) but he'd probably be more likely to get game time in the Championship than with us in the 2nd half of the year. Simple fact is that he's very unlikely to develop much with just the odd game very 2 or 3 months here sadly.
I agree, I really like Marcus and think he's going to be a very good striker in time and I'd love it to happen from tomorrow (well tonight now I see the time) but I just think a loan spell will be best for both him and us in the long term. Not my call though and people way more qualified than me will make know what's best for him and us.Good point but let's see if we think the same this time tomorrow night. It's Marcus time tomorrow.
Good luck Marcus. I believe.