Marcus Forss - Signs to June 2023 (4 Viewers)

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I don't see him being loaned out as with so many games in quick succession this season we need bodies off the bench
 

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and against the 'ammers today.

I'd like to keep him - certainly until the January window. Truncated season - lots of matches.
 

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Guess whether he stays will be very much dependent on who we manage to bring in.....
 

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I like Forss. He's scored goals at every level so far and Wimbledon fans were saying he's clearly Championship level, so to have him as a second choice/sub striker would seem a good idea.
 

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I like Forss. He's scored goals at every level so far and Wimbledon fans were saying he's clearly Championship level, so to have him as a second choice/sub striker would seem a good idea.
I think he's got the lot, just needs to learn the more aggressive pressing we require from a CF. To be fair to him, a lot of that is fitness and he's only just come back from a serious injury. I think he started doing that second half though, wiped out their keeper at one point!
 

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I like Forss. He's scored goals at every level so far and Wimbledon fans were saying he's clearly Championship level, so to have him as a second choice/sub striker would seem a good idea.
And Wimbledon fans would know all about championship levels lol
Marcus is a very good player and will score lots of goals next season for us.
A very exciting prospect.
 

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He’s a very good option and I would like to see him as part of our squad

He receive the ball and plays back to the central midfield a lot , rather than wide and forward, which is different to our usual play. Not necessarily a bad thing, more an observation
 

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And Wimbledon fans would know all about championship levels lol
Marcus is a very good player and will score lots of goals next season for us.
A very exciting prospect.
Next season, or this season??
 

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A lot of us were calling for him to be part of our squad at the beginning of last season, and were surprised at how light we looked up front when he went on loan. We all know how the history played out - and that includes Forss performing when on loan. The club will have done its analytics on him, but from a lay perspective, he looks like he’s done enough to deserve a chance as a good second option to play up top for us
 

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Next season, or this season??
This mate.
I can see him coming off the bench this season and scoring 15 goals.
Personally I think we would be silly to loan him out again. He will get enough chances to prove himself whoever we bring in.
 

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I expect some of them realise when a player is above their usual level...
Yes agree but i always amuses when someone says.... my x supporting mate thinks this or that about a player.
Just look on here at some of the opinions.
I prefer to leave it to the people at the club.
I wasn't having a go at you mate.
 

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A lot of us were calling for him to be part of our squad at the beginning of last season, and were surprised at how light we looked up front when he went on loan. We all know how the history played out - and that includes Forss performing when on loan. The club will have done its analytics on him, but from a lay perspective, he looks like he’s done enough to deserve a chance as a good second option to play up top for us
BeesAnalytica tweeted his stats radar diagram for last season earlier superimposed on Ollie’s. The main difference was in touches in the box where Marcus had far fewer. That was probably due to Wimbledon’s playing style and being one of the weaker teams so spending less time in the attacking third generally. Toney’s looked like a photocopy of Ollie’s.
 

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Forss is certainly more of a finisher than an all round game player like Ollie is, but that's why we sent him on loan to a tough side where he'd have to pick it up. Forss is a better finisher than Watkins, Frank even said so a year ago, it's just that Ollie (and Neal) offered the full package that our style needs.

It's why I can still see Forss being on our bench rather than starting, but make no mistake, he'll be a massive asset in games where we're chasing it and need that extra bit of spark and clever movement. I think he'd work really well with Marcondes come to think of it.
 

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With right supply, could he be the fox in the box rather that what we got from Maupay / Ollie.
Having said that, was there some fact that most of Ollies goals were within the 6 yard box (exc his super strike vs Blackburn)
Maybe more of a Scott Hogan player ?
 

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With right supply, could he be the fox in the box rather that what we got from Maupay / Ollie.
Having said that, was there some fact that most of Ollies goals were within the 6 yard box (exc his super strike vs Blackburn)
Maybe more of a Scott Hogan player ?
Maybe. A plan B of bringing on Marcondes and Forss to do the Kershbaumer/Hogan throughball in games we need to get back into and the opposition is just banked up defending 1-0 might be an interesting variation in play which doesn’t leave us vulnerable to a sucker punch second goal.
 

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With right supply, could he be the fox in the box rather that what we got from Maupay / Ollie.
Having said that, was there some fact that most of Ollies goals were within the 6 yard box (exc his super strike vs Blackburn)
Maybe more of a Scott Hogan player ?
I don’t see the comparison to Hogan. Thought he was very similar to Ollie in terms of dropping back, hold up play, using his strength...if he couldn’t do those things he wouldn’t be with us.

He’s being moulded into a proper Brentford number 9 although I do think he’s 12 months off starting in that role
 

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I would be surprised and annoyed if Forss is loaned out again. If we had got promoted then I could understand but he will be an important squad/ first team player for us. If we can get 10-12 goals out of him that be an impressive return. Leeds went up with their top scorer scoring 16 and West Brom didn't have a striker that scored over 11 goals last year.

We are hoping Ollie's replacement will score about 15ish and anything more will be a bonus.
 

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and against the 'ammers today.

I'd like to keep him - certainly until the January window. Truncated season - lots of matches.
Also, I think if/when we bring in a new striker this lad offers a goal threat coming off the subs bench. Last seasons loan at AFC will have helped progress him.
 

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Looked very good, today, from what I could gather from the stream.

Sharp too.
 

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Needs some work on link up play. But took his goal well. An improvement on last year.
 

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Presumably he must now qualify as a home grown player? If so would make him much more valuable and less likely to go out on loan...
 

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This time last year many were saying you can't expect a non-specialist to occupy the 9 spot for a whole season; Watkins is not a striker etc. This season, we start with the complaint that we don't have a replacement for that man. In the meantime, Forss can't stop scoring for the first team. Plus ça change etc.
 

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Toney and Forss vying for leas striker role would be enough. There's no way we'd loan him out again i don't think.
 

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Toney and Forss vying for leas striker role would be enough. There's no way we'd loan him out again i don't think.
We need two players for each position, plus an additional 'keeper, so Forss can't go anywhere. We'll need him in the early games, until Toney's fitness and conditioning is up to our standards and he can gel with the others, understanding his role in our style of play.
 

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I don’t think it is just his goals which will determine if he becomes part of our first team strike force (or goes out on loan again) but his all round link up play and using his strength to defend from the front. Ollie and Maupay were superb at these aspects, just not sure he is up to scratch yet on those aspects of his game.
 

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I’ve always rated Forss as a developing player with great potential!

Will be interesting to see how he fits in the team format with the arrival of Toney.
 

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I’ve always rated Forss as a developing player with great potential!

Will be interesting to see how he fits in the team format with the arrival of Toney.
I can't see the format changing, we just have options.
 

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I’ve always rated Forss as a developing player with great potential!

Will be interesting to see how he fits in the team format with the arrival of Toney.
It will. I suspect he will largely be on from the bench, as I expect Dervisoglu to feature much more highly this year. It will be interesting if we experiment with two forwards instead of one for some games this year.
 

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Toney and Fors two strikers who should be ready to hit the ground running. Oli had to develop into that role which he did fantastically well but grew incapability as the season went on and our foreign strikers eg Maupay and to a lesser extent Vibe took time to adapt (new language for Maups, new country, never played in the EFL). Hopefully, we'll be off to a bright start, unlike last time, which essentially cost us promotion. Players in early and selling late. Great buisiness again by the Bees.
 

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It will. I suspect he will largely be on from the bench, as I expect Dervisoglu to feature much more highly this year. It will be interesting if we experiment with two forwards instead of one for some games this year.
Our 'Plan B' (horrid expression!) was to play a 10 with Ollie. Saïd was the default but it's the position Halil was most used for previously.
 

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It will. I suspect he will largely be on from the bench, as I expect Dervisoglu to feature much more highly this year. It will be interesting if we experiment with two forwards instead of one for some games this year.
Two up front is Plan B for me
 

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I'm very interested to see what the season brings for Marcus.

Yes, he would be a good option for us, but on the other hand he and we would both benefit from regular starts. At his age player development often accelerates. If he's not getting 20 minute cameos for us, then I would say a 3 month loan at a top League One club might be the right option - along with the reassurance he's part of the 1st team plans (and a recall clause if that's possible). From a business model it would bring up his value more too.

I get the argument to keep him as an option, and we want the young promising players to do well, but in all likelihood if he doesn't get the minutes for us what is better for us 2 years down the line ?
 

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Loans must be between transfer windows, so a loan now will be until January.
Thank you. I wasn't 100% versed in how that market works.

It's a tough call on what is best to do. Forss or Dervisoglu should get some competitive game time on loan, I think. I just feel like development potentially could be slowed otherwise.

The other should stay here as back-up.
 

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Can he play for us until the end of the window, and then go on loan though?
I really can't see why we'd let him out on loan. He and Toney provide us two central strikers, we need that level of cover. Dervişoğlu is a different type of player, not really the front man from all I've seen, more a 10.

With the very compressed fixture schedule there's got to be rotation and cover for injuries or suspensions. There's no room for error and we need to err on the side of caution.
 

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I really can't see why we'd let him out on loan. He and Toney provide us two central strikers, we need that level of cover. Dervişoğlu is a different type of player, not really the front man from all I've seen, more a 10.

With the very compressed fixture schedule there's got to be rotation and cover for injuries or suspensions. There's no room for error and we need to err on the side of caution.
This.
 

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I'm very interested to see what the season brings for Marcus.

Yes, he would be a good option for us, but on the other hand he and we would both benefit from regular starts. At his age player development often accelerates. If he's not getting 20 minute cameos for us, then I would say a 3 month loan at a top League One club might be the right option - along with the reassurance he's part of the 1st team plans (and a recall clause if that's possible). From a business model it would bring up his value more too.

I get the argument to keep him as an option, and we want the young promising players to do well, but in all likelihood if he doesn't get the minutes for us what is better for us 2 years down the line ?
I would be livid if we let Forss go on loan again. I could see it if we had been promoted but his time is now. Have you seen the number of fixtures we have to play in December? Ollie was a freak last year playing so many minutes and we were lucky with injuries to a degree. Toney for all his stats/ ability in League 1 is still unknown at this level and the risk of injury is to much.
 

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