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Think he could be our super sub this year and potentially form a partnership with Ivan in those games last year where we struggled to breakdown opposition and lost one nil. Much more difficult to do when have two up front plus two wide players . We really didn’t have that option last year with only Ollie that could play as the central striker. This year we will have Toney, Forss and Halil. Am sure the back room team will be looking how to address those sort of match situations
 

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Think he could be our super sub this year and potentially form a partnership with Ivan in those games last year where we struggled to breakdown opposition and lost one nil. Much more difficult to do when have two up front plus two wide players . We really didn’t have that option last year with only Ollie that could play as the central striker. This year we will have Toney, Forss and Halil. Am sure the back room team will be looking how to address those sort of match situations
Hallie looks as if he is being squeezed out. I wonder if he is happy about the current situation with not only Toney, but Forss in front of him?
 

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Hallie looks as if he is being squeezed out. I wonder if he is happy about the current situation with not only Toney, but Forss in front of him?
I'd say that Halil is the better player to be paired with either central striker, if we used a 10 as a tactical alternative. He's also probably a better option to play across the front three in one of the wide attack positions – a player who can receive the ball and dribble into the box more effectively than either of the other two.
 

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I'd say that Halil is the better player to be paired with either central striker, if we used a 10 as a tactical alternative. He's also probably a better option to play across the front three in one of the wide attack positions – a player who can receive the ball and dribble into the box more effectively than either of the other two.
I’m not sure why but from the short appearances I’ve seen of him I think Halil has the spark of devilment that Maupay has. I doubt he’s been shunted down the order. We’re not going to set up the squad and play exactly like last season but instead, as always, deploy the resources we have to their best abilities within our broader philosophy. Never boring!
 

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A goal scorer. 😎
 

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He found so much space for his goal. It was poor defending but great work by Marcus.
 
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He found so much space for his goal. It was poor defending but great work by Marcus.
Not sure I'd say found - ridiculous defending by Huddersfield left him on his own as they all chased the ball. It's a skill in itself to stay calm though.
 

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Should be starting he is the in form striker at the club.
He is the striker most in tune with the way we play, the other team members and how we expect the number nine to press the opposition defence. Both Halil and Ivan will get there also and will have competition and alternatives will need up front this season.
 

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Not sure I'd say found - ridiculous defending by Huddersfield left him on his own as they all chased the ball. It's a skill in itself to stay calm though.
The great work from Mbeumo created all that space, as they were all occupied by him.
 

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Has developed a very handy scoring habit, consequently full of confidence and belief that he's going to score. Or vice-versa.
 

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Going way back, and in my previous posts about him, you could see the potential in him.

I think when he strikes the ball direct and low from the edge of the penalty area, that he has the hardest and most powerful shot of anyone in our squad.
 

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Had an e/w bet on him for Championship top scorer. Then again I did that last season too & he buggered off to Wimbledon. 😀
 

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Another player who’ll demonstrate the value of the B Team system. Picked up from WBA at age 18 and already has a steady goal scoring record whether at Finnish youth level or his loan spell at AFCW.
Already shows great awareness and ability to find space in the middle, attributes that both Watkins and Maupay had before him.
Could very well compete with IT for top spot before the end of the season.
Only 21 and will probably be another to make us much £££ by the time he’s 24/25.
 

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I think the reason that Halil is still a bit behind Marcus is that Forss totally gets our off the ball game. He works his arse off pressing and finding space. After the Southampton game Frank called him a 'running machine'.. I think Halil is still getting to grips with that as it's quite different to the way he would have been playing in Holland. Marcus has always been good off the ball and a great finisher and he now looks stronger and able to hold off Championship defenders. Can only be good for us!
 

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I think the impressive thing about his goal on Saturday was his patience to stay in the space and not go towards Mbeumo looking for the ball.

So easy to get drawn towards the ball where all the bodies were as opposed to staying patient and holding the space, very Oli like.
 

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I think the impressive thing about his goal on Saturday was his patience to stay in the space and not go towards Mbeumo looking for the ball.

So easy to get drawn towards the ball where all the bodies were as opposed to staying patient and holding the space, very Oli like.
Thomas has made passing references to getting the forward, while we are in possession, to stay in the area of maximum goalscoring opportunity (or words to that effect). It seems to be defined by the width of the 6-yard box and the depth of the penalty area (but I'm not sure). Ollie learned to transition from a roving winger to a goal machine by using and working that space – I believe only one of his goals, although probably his most spectacular, came from outside that area.

Clearly Marcus has that same coaching, to be able to work the zone and find the space, especially when 'Udder's defenders were chasing the ball like in a playground. It's something that Ivan has to learn, not chasing about all over but to work the space knowing the other attackers are expecting him to be there.

That's my theory, anyway.
 

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Thomas has made passing references to getting the forward, while we are in possession, to stay in the area of maximum goalscoring opportunity (or words to that effect). It seems to be defined by the width of the 6-yard box and the depth of the penalty area (but I'm not sure). Ollie learned to transition from a roving winger to a goal machine by using and working that space – I believe only one of his goals, although probably his most spectacular, came from outside that area.

Clearly Marcus has that same coaching, to be able to work the zone and find the space, especially when 'Udder's defenders were chasing the ball like in a playground. It's something that Ivan has to learn, not chasing about all over but to work the space knowing the other attackers are expecting him to be there.

That's my theory, anyway.
Sam Saunders got a regular ribbing end of last season on Sky commentary for trying to explain PMO - position of maximum opportunity. I think it was very much part of the individual and team coaching and Planning. Iirc in the last 3 seasons we’ve dramatically ramped up the number of efforts in PMO. As anyone who remembers endless passing across the edge of the penalty area without finding an opening under Smith (which he took to Villa) and comparing it to how we’ve played under Frank will attest.
 

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I think the impressive thing about his goal on Saturday was his patience to stay in the space and not go towards Mbeumo looking for the ball.

So easy to get drawn towards the ball where all the bodies were as opposed to staying patient and holding the space, very Oli like.
Also impressive not to move further away from the crowd of players to look for a space where Bryan could pass the ball to him where his chances of scoring would have been lower, he stuck to the optimum position to score from and let the play develop for him.
 

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The way forss is playing and scoring sort of reminds me of when we bought hogan to be the number one and gray was bought as back up...Toney has come for big money and forss is already here yet he is the one who is making the headlines....ok it helped gray with the fact that hogan got injured but gray grabbed his chance to me this has the same feel
 

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The way forss is playing and scoring sort of reminds me of when we bought hogan to be the number one and gray was bought as back up...Toney has come for big money and forss is already here yet he is the one who is making the headlines....ok it helped gray with the fact that hogan got injured but gray grabbed his chance to me this has the same feel
Yep. Except this season we have two fit strikers, both of whom bagged a load of goals last season. When one isn't working, we can frighten the bejesus out of the opposition and bring the other one on. If we keep them both fit and our midfielders start to click, they will score a load between them. And don't forget Bryan!

Ollie who?
 

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It was interesting to see that in the closing stages of the game we went to 442 with Toney and Forss playing up top together. Still a bit of work to do on getting Toney on the team wavelength as there was one attack where Forss made a clever run wide and was calling for it but Toney shot instead (very well struck and very narrowly wide - would have probably beaten the keeper if on target so well within his rights to have a go).

Forss doesn't half welly his penalties! Even when dead straight they'd be tough to save with the power he puts on them.
 

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Yep. Except this season we have two fit strikers, both of whom bagged a load of goals last season. When one isn't working, we can frighten the bejesus out of the opposition and bring the other one on. If we keep them both fit and our midfielders stat to click, they will score a load between them. And don't forget Bryan!

Ollie who?
I am not saying that Toney won’t score but forss seems so confident to me .....Toney will come good plus he has not played since March so it will take him a while....although Ollie was a fantastic striker for me not a touch on holdsworth and blissett or the ft index! As they were called
 

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I am not saying that Toney won’t score but forss seems so confident to me .....Toney will come good plus he has not played since March so it will take him a while....although Ollie was a fantastic striker for me not a touch on holdsworth and blissett or the ft index! As they were called
Forss hasn't played for much longer, has he not?
 

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Forss hasn't played for much longer, has he not?
If I remember rightly he was back out there on the green stuff around the time of the restart, but like we guessed on here with Dru Yearwood's situation, our training methods are definitely ahead of those in L1!
 

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Excellent penalties.. Very good option from the bench and may even be starting if he continues.. 2 from 2
 

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I think the impressive thing about his goal on Saturday was his patience to stay in the space and not go towards Mbeumo looking for the ball.

So easy to get drawn towards the ball where all the bodies were as opposed to staying patient and holding the space, very Oli like.
I listened to a pod cast with Ruud Gullit once who said the late great Johan Cruyff coached him to do exactly this and converted him from a defender to an attacker at the same time; when others run towards the ball go the other way / stand still away form the pack and let the ball come to you. When it does you have time and space and maybe one player to beat, if you run into the melee and receive the ball you have 3, 4, 5 players to beat and no obvious chance at goal.
 
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There were also two other unmarked Bees standing away from Bryan in goal scoring positions. Looks like some credit is due to the coaching staff.
 

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I'd say that Halil is the better player to be paired with either central striker, if we used a 10 as a tactical alternative. He's also probably a better option to play across the front three in one of the wide attack positions – a player who can receive the ball and dribble into the box more effectively than either of the other two.
Will be interesting now we've signed Ghoddos who reckons his best position is number 10!
 

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There were also two other unmarked Bees standing away from Bryan in goal scoring positions. Looks like some credit is due to the coaching staff.
On this occasion i would say it was **** defending and all credit due to the Huddersfield defence.
 

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Will be interesting now we've signed Ghoddos who reckons his best position is number 10!
And we played the final 20 minutes in the WBA cup game in a 4-4-2, as Toney joined forces with Forss. With the squad of players maturing, we'll soon see multiple versions of formation and style of play, not just a Plan B.

Although I think those who call for a Plan B usually mean they want to see Jim Towers at centre forward.
 

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And we played the final 20 minutes in the WBA cup game in a 4-4-2, as Toney joined forces with Forss. With the squad of players maturing, we'll soon see multiple versions of formation and style of play, not just a Plan B.

Although I think those who call for a Plan B usually mean they want to see Jim Towers at centre forward.
Yes there are a few pairs we had that would love to have played 442 here now
 

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JLove - pedant alert - Jim Towers was not a centre forward, he was an old-fashioned inside left. George Francis was the centre forward alongside him.
Nostalgic sigh. I wish there were forwards/pairings like them today.
 

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a (good) problem for TF to have now.. Forss keeps scoring .. does he start against Preston ?? or play both him or Toney..
 

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