Marcus Forss - Signs to June 2026

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Needs to find ways of getting in to the game when we aren’t on top and enjoying lots of the ball. We know he can finish but lots of work to do on hold up play, positioning, making the right runs, etc.
 

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I like Forss, his early season form was very good, but if we lost Toney to any length of time would we really be happy with him leading the line to get us over the line?

I know the phrase form is temporary, class is permanent, but I do think we need another option up front.
I don't have any suggestions but maybe a striker on loan to help us over the line on this occasion that is willing to battle Toney rather than replace, or buying someone who is scoring for fun in Leagues 1 or 2 that could prove fruitful financially as well as goals in the future.

It is easy behind a keyboard and screen to suggest this than it is to go out and do, but Toney has not scored in 6 - his worst for us this season, and 4 of those games have come against Premier or promotion/play off chasing teams. Forss has not scored in 10 games, albeit most of his games he has only played 20 minutes or so. They are our 2 main recognised forward, not wide forwards, and this can be worrying despite not losing a league game in 16 (or is it 17?).

I may sound pessimistic, and I realise Ghoddos is now starting to score goals, but is that enough?

Would Forss benefit from another loan, to a lower Championship club that won't affect us up the table to play more consistently if we were to get someone in?
 

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He really needs more game time and more development of his all round game. If we go up I wonder if we may send him for a season loan to the championship
 

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Regular minutes will help if Ivan is missing for any length of time.

Marcus is a class act. 👍
 

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I like Forss, his early season form was very good, but if we lost Toney to any length of time would we really be happy with him leading the line to get us over the line?

I know the phrase form is temporary, class is permanent, but I do think we need another option up front.
I don't have any suggestions but maybe a striker on loan to help us over the line on this occasion that is willing to battle Toney rather than replace, or buying someone who is scoring for fun in Leagues 1 or 2 that could prove fruitful financially as well as goals in the future.

It is easy behind a keyboard and screen to suggest this than it is to go out and do, but Toney has not scored in 6 - his worst for us this season, and 4 of those games have come against Premier or promotion/play off chasing teams. Forss has not scored in 10 games, albeit most of his games he has only played 20 minutes or so. They are our 2 main recognised forward, not wide forwards, and this can be worrying despite not losing a league game in 16 (or is it 17?).

I may sound pessimistic, and I realise Ghoddos is now starting to score goals, but is that enough?

Would Forss benefit from another loan, to a lower Championship club that won't affect us up the table to play more consistently if we were to get someone in?
its all fair comment. We need another striker in tbh. Experienced tho. On loan is fine.
 

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I thought Pressley came on and had more of an impact than Forss did all game.
 
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I'm not particularly impressed by Forss. No presence at all with back to goal, not particularly good in the air. Yes, he is quick, but I haven't honestly seen much else.
 

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I thought Pressley came on and had more of an impact than Forss did all game.
Not sure I agree with that. Forss worked hard in very much a lonely shift. Apart from the odd sharp break in the first half from Fosu and Canos he got very little support at all, centre mid didn't really support him either. No criticism of Pressley but I would have backed Forss to put away that late chance.

Limited game time and match situations have stalled the superb goal scoring form of the lad and no doubt compared to IT his all round game still requires development but I think all that will come and this lad will prove to be a big player for us.
 

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I'm not particularly impressed by Forss. No presence at all with back to goal, not particularly good in the air. Yes, he is quick, but I haven't honestly seen much else.
Scores goals for fun, tremendous finisher and finds great positions in the box.
Not a lot to be impressed about 👎
 

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Clearly the club see something in him the long contract, but IMO he is a long way off being a Championship goal scorer.
 

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You say for fun, but in the last 10 games he's been involved in he hasn't scored a single goal, or looked close.
Maybe not.....judge him in the first team when/if he gets his chance.

He is no Ivan Toney but his record for Wimbledon last season, us earlier this and at youth level suggests he's good for plenty of goals once he's fully adjusted to the standard.

I'm delighted he is our player and it looks as though the club is too.
I'm not sure how we could do better, Bryan potentially?
 

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Maybe not.....judge him in the first team when/if he gets his chance.

He is no Ivan Toney but his record for Wimbledon last season, us earlier this and at youth level suggests he's good for plenty of goals once he's fully adjusted to the standard.

I'm delighted he is our player and it looks as though the club is too.
I'm not sure how we could do better, Bryan potentially?
Me too, so please don't take my reply or earlier comment as suggesting he is bad.
Just he is a young lad who i think is off form.
And currently, with Halil moving on too now, we have just Toney and Forss, both off form, as our only recognised "league experienced" strikers which I think is not good enough for a team with aspirations for top 2, let alone top 6.
 

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Any sudden doubting of his ability is bizarre IMO. He's not the finished product by any stretch, but in his recent performances he was either playing out of position (Luton), starved of service (Leicester, Middlesbrough), or didn't have enough time to make an impact (Tottenham, Cardiff).
 

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Clearly the club see something in him the long contract, but IMO he is a long way off being a Championship goal scorer.
Not a championship goal scorer lol

He has scored 5 goals in 403 minutes of championship action this season. That's better than a goal every 90 minutes.

We don't need a striker, Toney is the best in the division and Forss isn't far behind him.
 

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He really needs more game time and more development of his all round game. If we go up I wonder if we may send him for a season loan to the championship
Next season? Judging by what people are posting we might as well send him on loan this season.
 

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Me too, so please don't take my reply or earlier comment as suggesting he is bad.
Just he is a young lad who i think is off form.
And currently, with Halil moving on too now, we have just Toney and Forss, both off form, as our only recognised "league experienced" strikers which I think is not good enough for a team with aspirations for top 2, let alone top 6.
I'm not sure either of them are out of form, tbh.

Toney had a lot of space early season but teams are now marking him into oblivion...which has coincided with Canos scoring some goals and a few goals from other players. I think that's what we're always likely to see.

Forss has a great scoring record but...he doesn't seem ready to play against top class defences. He needs more space and time than they give him. It's an area of development, for sure, and something the club will be working on, I have no doubt. But he gets into positions and he has a nice snap shot on him, so I reckon he'll make the adjustments sooner or later.

A very different player to Ollie or Ivan, though. Seems like the kinda player you used to see in a 2 man attack alongside a more robust forward.
 

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A very different player to Ollie or Ivan, though. Seems like the kinda player you used to see in a 2 man attack alongside a more robust forward.
This is the key message here. Not all strikers play the same way, some people on here writing him off after a few games. Firstly he is not a wide player and its pointless bringing him on for 20minutes out wide that's not his game. He is a fox in the box/playing on shoulder of last defender type of striker. Reminds me of Hogan to be honest so the team needs to adapt to his strengths because yes he wont hold the ball up like Toney, so we need to adapt when he plays. Slick through ball passes and one twos.
 
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To me he is at his most effective when playing alongside another striker which is not how we usually play.
 

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With reference to him not being a Championship goalscorer, he has scored at international level, albeit against mickey-mouse opposition. ;) :pop:
 

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With reference to him not being a Championship goalscorer, he has scored at international level, albeit against mickey-mouse opposition. ;) :pop:
That was an unbelievable goal he scored in Paris.
Don't think his ability can be doubted by anyone who saw it, truly amazing goal IMHO👍
 

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There’s no doubt that he can finish but his work rate is very poor - especially when compared with Ivan and the two previous incumbents of the central striker role.
If he can improve that aspect of his game then we have a fantastic prospect.
 

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There’s no doubt that he can finish but his work rate is very poor - especially when compared with Ivan and the two previous incumbents of the central striker role.
If he can improve that aspect of his game then we have a fantastic prospect.
I don't think there is anything wrong with his work rate, try replaying any of the Leicester match and watch him. At present the problem is his rate of effectiveness, which to my mind is the same criticism that was levelled at Ollie Watkins before the start of last season. He needs to and is developing.
 

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This is the key message here. Not all strikers play the same way, some people on here writing him off after a few games. Firstly he is not a wide player and its pointless bringing him on for 20minutes out wide that's not his game. He is a fox in the box/playing on shoulder of last defender type of striker. Reminds me of Hogan to be honest so the team needs to adapt to his strengths because yes he wont hold the ball up like Toney, so we need to adapt when he plays. Slick through ball passes and one twos.
Is he not a bit like Maupay without the sh*thousery? He doesn’t have the pace Hogan had before injuries took their toll.

With reference to him not being a Championship goalscorer, he has scored at international level, albeit against mickey-mouse opposition. ;) :pop:
Oh he’s absolutelya Champ level goal scorer. I’m not sure he’d be very effective in the premier league yet, though. Toney, on the other hand...
 

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There’s no doubt that he can finish but his work rate is very poor - especially when compared with Ivan and the two previous incumbents of the central striker role.
If he can improve that aspect of his game then we have a fantastic prospect.
i think his work rate is fine, it’s just it’s still a little unfocused... needs to learn when to press etc but that’s something he’ll learn..
 

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Forss is a great prospect. He scored a few goals earlier on in the season and all of a sudden some posters were saying he had to play in the starting 11. People's expectations went through the roof after a few games. Now it's gone the other way for some. I guess you can't control this but my advice would be to judge him at the end of the season. He is making good progress and he will be a great asset hence we have him on a long contract, but a Toney he ain't, yet. Give Forss time and he will be good, but some posters need to stop themselves getting so excited after a handful of games and goals.
 

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I have to say that if we are winning and trying to see the game out him coming on for a wide player is ok but if we are chasing a game I don't think he is offering much of a threat stuck out wide, as others have said not his fault at all but not what we need in that position if we need a goal imo.
 

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Apart from away to Stoke, has the 'bringing on MF to play with Toney', when chasing a game, worked at all??
 

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Apart from away to Stoke, has the 'bringing on MF to play with Toney', when chasing a game, worked at all??
I think that it's not a question of playing with Toney, if we had another quality wide attacker Forss wouldn't have been brought on.
 

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Apart from away to Stoke, has the 'bringing on MF to play with Toney', when chasing a game, worked at all??
I always see it as a bit desperate, not that Forss isn’t a good player it’s just there’s no other option.
 

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Apart from away to Stoke, has the 'bringing on MF to play with Toney', when chasing a game, worked at all??
Barnsley seemed to have us all worked out. I wonder if on a day like today when we are 2-0 down that playing 2 up front might force them into a change of tactics.
In such a situation we don't appear to have a lot to lose.
It may not have changed the result today but it could give us an extra string to our bow.
 

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I always see it as a bit desperate, not that Forss isn’t a good player it’s just there’s no other option.
I've still got the nightmare of the "guessing" at the tail end of last season.
 

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Apart from away to Stoke, has the 'bringing on MF to play with Toney', when chasing a game, worked at all??
Still doesn't seem to be a change that looks like creating opportunities for us......let alone taking them......
 

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Why? When the attackers are not working together, why bring him on play as another individual?
 

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Just couldnt get him into the game. Tried but their CBs did a good job on him.
 

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We need to start playing more like last season to get the best out of Forss. We've got used to having Toney getting on the end of hopeful long balls and crosses, which aren't Forss's game.

If we can play in a way where we're camped in an opponent's half, then Forss is the sort of player who can find space and punish opponents. Admittedly, that was never going to happen in today's game though.
 

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I'm waiting for the he isn't any good comments now.

Toney and him are polar opposite strikers.

Forss is more Hogan Esq. Wants to play in behind the back line. He doesn't suit the same style we have been playing with Toney.
Some fairly unfair critics.
If people can't see that Toney and him are completely different strikers is well... A fool.

You wouldn't call Shearer and Owen the same striker or expect the same from them.

Unfortunately our style currently doesn't suit Forss. He needs clever one twos or through balls.

Some fans lack a football brain.
 

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He's been poor every time I've seen him play over the last few months... doesn't work hard enough and can't remember the last shot he had....could have easily had 2 goals today had he had an ounce of anticipation in him
 

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He's been poor every time I've seen him play over the last few months... doesn't work hard enough and can't remember the last shot he had....could have easily had 2 goals today had he had an ounce of anticipation in him
Oh yeah I forgot his natural position was out wide playing as a winger for last 15 minutes of games lol
 

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I'm waiting for the he isn't any good comments now.

Toney and him are polar opposite strikers.

Forss is more Hogan Esq. Wants to play in behind the back line. He doesn't suit the same style we have been playing with Toney.
Some fairly unfair critics.
If people can't see that Toney and him are completely different strikers is well... A fool.

You wouldn't call Shearer and Owen the same striker or expect the same from them.

Unfortunately our style currently doesn't suit Forss. He needs clever one twos or through balls.

Some fans lack a football brain.
Don’t disagree, he doesn’t suit playing in a 433 but that’s the been clear from the beginning. Square peg for a round hole...
 

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Choir boy. He’ll be a 20 goal a season striker for us when he’s ready. Which isn’t now.
 

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