Marcus Forss - Signs to June 2026 (3 Viewers)

[Isleworth_Bee]

I think this is the main problem for him in our system.

I think the issue is our more direct style. We look to play up to Toney, its not MF game.

 

[Beat Poet]

He hasn't scored a goal since he signed that massive contract back in December. It's probably something that'll take some getting used to, keeping your work rate/motivation levels sky high, while being contracted up the kazoo. I get the feeling though if he scored just one, he'd get a hatful.

 

[Stanley]

Bit harsh to judge him on todays performance as the team were very poor as a whole and we created very little for him.

 

[Robi Bee]

I like Forss, his early season form was very good, but if we lost Toney to any length of time would we really be happy with him leading the line to get us over the line?

I know the phrase form is temporary, class is permanent, but I do think we need another option up front.
I don't have any suggestions but maybe a striker on loan to help us over the line on this occasion that is willing to battle Toney rather than replace, or buying someone who is scoring for fun in Leagues 1 or 2 that could prove fruitful financially as well as goals in the future.

It is easy behind a keyboard and screen to suggest this than it is to go out and do, but Toney has not scored in 6 - his worst for us this season, and 4 of those games have come against Premier or promotion/play off chasing teams. Forss has not scored in 10 games, albeit most of his games he has only played 20 minutes or so. They are our 2 main recognised forward, not wide forwards, and this can be worrying despite not losing a league game in 16 (or is it 17?).

I may sound pessimistic, and I realise Ghoddos is now starting to score goals, but is that enough?

Would Forss benefit from another loan, to a lower Championship club that won't affect us up the table to play more consistently if we were to get someone in?

To answer your first question, based on today's show, we know he won't be able to. But in any case, that would be asking way too much of him. Barely had a touch or laid a glove today so clearly a long way to go before he can start regularly at this level. Great finisher but I haven't seen much else to his game as yet. Let's hope Toney is back asap.

 

[Wouldbee]

Given injuries to the likes of Henry now is the time to change the system to suit Forss.

 

[barry]

Given injuries to the likes of Henry now is the time to change the system to suit Forss.

Like we did when hogan was putting them away, very clinical...

 

[westy]

 

[readingbee]

To answer your first question, based on today's show, we know he won't be able to. But in any case, that would be asking way too much of him. Barely had a touch or laid a glove today so clearly a long way to go before he can start regularly at this level. Great finisher but I haven't seen much else to his game as yet. Let's hope Toney is back asap.

To be fair to the lad. He’s still learning and he’s always been best with the ball either laid in front of him to run onto or getting the ball early and running at Defenders. Today the passing into the box suited Toney and if he had been playing would have got two or three, then it’s a whole different game. Like you though, I’m hoping Toney isn’t out for too long. In fact to see him back on Wednesday would be perfect.

 

[HantsBee]

To be fair to the lad. He’s still learning and he’s always been best with the ball either laid in front of him to run onto or getting the ball early and running at Defenders. Today the passing into the box suited Toney and if he had been playing would have got two or three, then it’s a whole different game. Like you though, I’m hoping Toney isn’t out for too long. In fact to see him back on Wednesday would be perfect.

No chance..

 

[readingbee]

No chance..

I know, I did say it would be perfect. Unfortunately we don’t live in a perfect world and it’s Brentfordfc we don’t do things easily

 

[Balders Bee]

Forss vs three centre halves with little but scraps to feed on was never going to end in the young lads favour. The ball didn't stick , the midfield didn't give him any service and the couple of times we did get crosses in and around the box he was on his heels. We know this lad is a talented finisher but he's not ready to be an Ivan Toney understudy and if he has to start because of an injury to the latter we do have to find a way to play to get the best out of him.

 

[teesbee]

We're cutting MF an awful lot of slack that other players do not get. We have to totally change the system to put it on a plate for him now?! That chance he had in the first half on Saturday where he actually ran behind the defender instead of intercepting the ball...

I'll be kind and say that he has to try and match Ivan Toney's work rate as his number one priority, and see where that takes him.

 

[CTBee]

We're cutting MF an awful lot of slack that other players do not get. We have to totally change the system to put it on a plate for him now?! That chance he had in the first half on Saturday where he actually ran behind the defender instead of intercepting the ball...

I'll be kind and say that he has to try and match Ivan Toney's work rate as his number one priority, and see where that takes him.

Of course we're cutting him some slack, that's the first time he's started as a centre forward in the Championship this season and the first time he's started a game since the Leicester FA Cup almost a month ago.

It's an awful lot to expect the lad to match sharp when he hasn't played, I reckon we will see an improvement in his game over the next 4-5 games.

 

[nick logan]

Create chances for him and he will tuck them away.

 

[Delbee]

Create chances for him and he will tuck them away.

Totally agree I didn’t see one chance he had in the box on Saturday, yes he could have gambled and gone in on the Dalsgaard cross across the 6 yard area

 

[jlove]

I think playing without 3 otherwise unoccupied centre backs on his case might help, too.

 

[costabees]

He's a doubt for tomorrow- I wonder who plays up top with Ivan out too?

 

[Balders Bee]

He's a doubt for tomorrow- I wonder who plays up top with Ivan out too?

Is that from breaking team news?

 

[costabees]

Is that from breaking team news?

Frank said he's suffered from concussion so is a doubt

 

[Balders Bee]

Frank said he's suffered from concussion so is a doubt

Does the good news never end

 

[Invipai]

Time to bring in Harlee Dean to play upfront?

 

[swr22]

I'm waiting for the he isn't any good comments now.

Toney and him are polar opposite strikers.

Forss is more Hogan Esq. Wants to play in behind the back line. He doesn't suit the same style we have been playing with Toney.
Some fairly unfair critics.
If people can't see that Toney and him are completely different strikers is well... A fool.

You wouldn't call Shearer and Owen the same striker or expect the same from them.

Unfortunately our style currently doesn't suit Forss. He needs clever one twos or through balls.

Some fans lack a football brain.

This is correct. Much of our chance creation comes from overloads on the wings and then working the ball into the box. This suits Toney's game. Patterns of play which looks for a more central midfielder to put the ball either between the CBs or looking for Forss to run into the channels would suit him more. I'd like to see him build some more of Watkins's ability to come deep, lay the ball off and then spin in behind. I think Forss has the capacity to do that if he becomes more comfortable with his back to goal and shielding defenders.

 

[1889]

Is Pressley ready for a start? I doubt it.... Maybe Ghoddos/Fosu/Mbeumo…..Canos???

 

[wanderer paul]

Ghoddos up top, imo.

Get well soon Mr Forss!

 

[Bigbee]

Fosu has had an eye for goal recently and can use his head too

 

[nick logan]

Mbeumo up top , Canos and Fosu wide ?

 

[lanzabee]

He's a doubt for tomorrow- I wonder who plays up top with Ivan out too?

Got any boots?

 

[Robi Bee]

Is Paul Hayes available?

 

[Vid]

Does the good news never end

Stop doing this..... you'll get concussion.

 

[magicbees]

Ghoddos up top, imo.

Get well soon Mr Forss!

Play 2 upfront, lets try 532 and be more solid.

 

[Dazza]

Play 2 upfront, lets try 532 and be more solid.

We don't have 2 strikers though? That's the point

 

[pompeybee]

Play 2 upfront, lets try 532 and be more solid.

I know you're always on about signing strikers, but getting two in by tomorrow is going to be tough.

 

[magicbees]

I know you're always on about signing strikers, but getting two in by tomorrow is going to be tough.

What do you suggest we play nobody up top, please please not 433 without Toney.

 

[unBEEliveable]

What do you suggest we play nobody up top, please please not 433 without Toney.

WM is the way forward with all our injuries

 

[wanderer paul]

What do you suggest we play nobody up top, please please not 433 without Toney.

433 is how we play. The players know the system. The team will be picked to that system.

Anyway. Back to Forss. Did anyone see how he got concussed?

 

[AB]

WM is the way forward with all our injuries

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That’s well pre-Castle badge but probably the formation we used in our invincible season!

 

[LostBee]

Has to be Mbeumo I reckon, have always thought that in time it would be a natural position for him.

 

[Stormbee]

433 is how we play. The players know the system. The team will be picked to that system.

Anyway. Back to Forss. Did anyone see how he got concussed?

Must have hit his head on the the way off the coach as he looked dazed all match.

 

[davidccpigeons]

WM is the way forward with all our injuries

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Worked well for us in the 40s and 50s.

 

[Delbee]

Worked well for us in the 40s and 50s.

And no mention of a No 8 or No10 good old fashioned half back and inside forwards.

Showing our age. I think Alf Ramsey can take some blame for this change. I. E no wingers. It worked for him and us

 

[Downbeat Bee]

Mbeumo up top , Canos and Fosu wide ?

Does Frank run all his selections by you? Seems like it at the moment.

 

[Guildford Bee]

Thought he played very well tonight when he came on despite missing a good chance.

I do wonder though whether he’d benefit from another loan spell next season. He’s a long way off being a Brentford #9

 

[Nada Bee]

I do wonder though whether he’d benefit from another loan spell next season.

If we go up. Yes.

if we don’t. Yes.



he clearly needs game time.

 

[badgerbee]

Thought he played very well tonight when he came on despite missing a good chance.

I do wonder though whether he’d benefit from another loan spell next season. He’s a long way off being a Brentford #9

Reckon he'll be our CF next year if we don't go up....

 

[shaun]

Thought he played very well tonight when he came on despite missing a good chance.

I do wonder though whether he’d benefit from another loan spell next season. He’s a long way off being a Brentford #9

It’s a tough one. He is competing against the best striker in the division by a mile. Needs minutes to improve which he will get elsewhere but without cover if Toney was out for a while, imagine if Forss was on loan?

 

[Balders Bee]

Thought he played very well tonight when he came on despite missing a good chance.

I do wonder though whether he’d benefit from another loan spell next season. He’s a long way off being a Brentford #9

Agree I thought he was positive tonight when he came on and it was an excellent save from the Rovers keeper to stop his point blank header. I agree he's a long way off being Ivan Toney but we would have to adjust our style of play to get the best out of Forss who is more of a fox in the box than a complete striker.

 

[Guildford Bee]

Reckon he'll be our CF next year if we don't go up....

I really doubt it. If we bring in £30m for Toney a reasonable amount will go on a ready replacement.

We won’t go into a Championship season with Forss as the #9 and Pressley and Morgensen as back-ups

 

[AB]

I really doubt it. If we bring in £30m for Toney a reasonable amount will go on a ready replacement.

We won’t go into a Championship season with Forss as the #9 and Pressley and Morgensen as back-ups

Not unless we think Forss is about to flower. The club seems quite good at being able to tell but it’d be worrying for us until they’re proved right again.

 

[JANORAK]

Not unless we think Forss is about to flower. The club seems quite good at being able to tell but it’d be worrying for us until they’re proved right again.

Well, a hat trick today is a good restart to that!

 

[Mr Cynical]

Good to see him get back in the goals today. Think he needed that..