Marcus Forss - Signs to June 2026

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Really pleased for him and for Finland for making a major tournament for the first time.

I've never been to Finland but it's a country where I'd like to be pony trekking or camping or just watching TV but it's so sadly neglected, and often ignored, a poor second to Belgium when going abroad.
 

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Really pleased for him and for Finland for making a major tournament for the first time.

I've never been to Finland but it's a country where I'd like to be pony trekking or camping or just watching TV but it's so sadly neglected, and often ignored, a poor second to Belgium when going abroad.
In the last series of the Apprentice one of the tasks was to film a promo video to encourage tourism to Finland. The results were terrible!
 

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Did he ? He ran around a lot but barely touched the ball !
I suspect that he followed his instructions perfectly in that regard. Get out there and chase everything for 5 minutes 🤷‍♂️ it's not like Finland were attacking at that point.
 

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I know a lot more things happened and I am glad the lad is doing well but

late on in the game Marcus was tracking back and Mathias was on the ball just for a second or two there was just two players on the screen.
I just thought at the time anyone watching this at the Euro’s at the moment can only see Brentford players. Silly I know but struck me.
 

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I know a lot more things happened and I am glad the lad is doing well but

late on in the game Marcus was tracking back and Mathias was on the ball just for a second or two there was just two players on the screen.
I just thought at the time anyone watching this at the Euro’s at the moment can only see Brentford players. Silly I know but struck me.
Don’t worry, you’re not alone! I had the same thought at the same time...
 

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Call me crazy, because I have always been a fan of Forss, but I feel like he needs to work on his all round play and linking up. His finishing is great but I’d love it if he could have a full season with good coaching in the Championship
 

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Gets him another cap, but there didn't seem much point in bringing him on in stoppage time.
 

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In my objective eyes, he struggled in the Championship a bit in a good team. I think he personally just needs a proper season under his belt in the Champ. There is little point in keeping him here IMO for this campaign. He will come good, really good - but not yet .
 

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Saka is 19.... lots of players in their teens and early 20s. More than ten or twenty years ago. Going back Sinton was young at 23. Let's see what happens. If he's good enough he's old enough.
 

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Could Marcus and our other forwards do with some specific coaching from an ex-pro who was excellent at finding space in the box. Teddy Sheringham is the name that immediately sprang to my mind
 
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Saka is 19.... lots of players in their teens and early 20s. More than ten or twenty years ago. Going back Sinton was young at 23. Let's see what happens. If he's good enough he's old enough.
Sinton was even younger when he made his debut for Cambridge. :thetruth: :crazy: :moo: :scratch: 🤷 :looks: :cry: :homer:
 

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Could Marcus and our other forwards do with some specific coaching from an ex-pro who was excellent at finding space in the box. Teddy Sheringham is the name that immediately sprang to my mind
I’m not sure we lack coaching and whether Sheringham has any ability to coach (there’s a big difference between having a natural ability to do something and being able to communicated). I think Marcus just needs an extended run of games at an appropriate level. I don’t think he’s PL ready so I’d be concerned if that run were with us this season. But then again, the club is pretty good at this stuff and judged Watkins’ ability to play as starting sole striker and when better than most of us.
 

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I’m not sure we lack coaching and whether Sheringham has any ability to coach (there’s a big difference between having a natural ability to do something and being able to communicated). I think Marcus just needs an extended run of games at an appropriate level. I don’t think he’s PL ready so I’d be concerned if that run were with us this season. But then again, the club is pretty good at this stuff and judged Watkins’ ability to play as starting sole striker and when better than most of us.
Early on last season one of Marcus’s goals specifically said how well he did to drop into space for a simple finish. I was expecting to see it repeated again and again throughout the rest of the season, but I dont think he scored another like it. I feel strikers with pace like Ollie have less of a problem creating chances. Strikers with less pace have to find other ways, initially running with their marker at corners before kinking their run to give themselves a yard or 2 for a header or volley.
Teddy was excellent at doing it and explaining how he created chances should be easy enough and worth a few sessions for Marcus, Aaron & Gus
 

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I’m not sure we lack coaching and whether Sheringham has any ability to coach (there’s a big difference between having a natural ability to do something and being able to communicated). I think Marcus just needs an extended run of games at an appropriate level. I don’t think he’s PL ready so I’d be concerned if that run were with us this season. But then again, the club is pretty good at this stuff and judged Watkins’ ability to play as starting sole striker and when better than most of us.
Agree, I think Marcus is ready made for a loan at the right club, in the Championship. You cannot beat the experience gained by playing imo.
 

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Imo there's little point in comparing young players - strikers especially - with players even from 25 years ago in terms of development.

For in those days, if a club had a good young player on their books, he generally got his chance in the 1st XI to learn the game from his late teens. For with fewer teams getting relegated or qualifying for Europe, a bigger top tier but no play-offs beneath etc, there were many more "nothing games" where a manager could throw in the kids.

Add to that the fact that clubs can now sign experienced players cheaply from all over the world to plug any gaps, and the opportunities for youngsters are even fewer. (Though the increased use of the loan system mitigates that in part).

Moreover, the game is so much more complex these days as regards formations, tactics, zonal marking, transitioning, set-pieces etc, that there is simply more to learn. Meanwhile the physical demands are so muchj greater, which must affect growing bodies more than seasoned pro's.

So that getting back to Forss, I personally feel he's got what it takes to make it. But I just feel we've got to be more patient and wait longer than everybody hopes for that to come through - see eg Ollie Watkins, whose "breakthrough" season to the next level came in 2019/20, when he was 23, going on 24.
 

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To team was set up for the season for playing to Toney strengths especially in the 4-3-3 formation. Forss would play better with 2 up top like we did end of season.

He was making cameos on the wing and he clearly isn't a winger. Those who are judging him badly on appearances in 15minutes out wide on the wing from the sub bench.. in my opinion are wrong.
 

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To team was set up for the season for playing to Toney strengths especially in the 4-3-3 formation. Forss would play better with 2 up top like we did end of season.

He was making cameos on the wing and he clearly isn't a winger. Those who are judging him badly on appearances in 15minutes out wide on the wing from the sub bench.. in my opinion are wrong.
He certainly isn’t a winger but he still has work to do to play as a support striker to Toney (or indeed vice versa). If we played 433 how would we feel about him playing central striker in the PL if Toney not available? He’s a talent but that means not breaking him by playing him too early in his development in games which might be too much for him.

Maybe the coaching team can work the same magic they did behind the scenes to get Watkins firing with a good month’s work in preseason.
 

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He certainly isn’t a winger but he still has work to do to play as a support striker to Toney (or indeed vice versa). If we played 433 how would we feel about him playing central striker in the PL if Toney not available? He’s a talent but that means not breaking him by playing him too early in his development in games which might be too much for him.

Maybe the coaching team can work the same magic they did behind the scenes to get Watkins firing with a good month’s work in preseason.
You'd have to adapt the style of play for him to play him in our current 4-3-3. Forss is more in mold of Watkins. And we've adapted this season to play to Toney strengths.
 

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You'd have to adapt the style of play for him to play him in our current 4-3-3. Forss is more in mold of Watkins. And we've adapted this season to play to Toney strengths.
I think people forget that yes, Watkins had great pace to spin in behind, but he could also play with his back to goal a bit and lay the ball off and bring in other players. Not sure Forss YET has that in his toolkit. I think he has tremendous promise and he is undoubtedly a striker and not a winger but I think he needs a season in the Championship working on his all-around game: back to goal, dropping between the lines etc before being Prem ready.
 
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I think people forget that yes, Watkins had great pace to spin in behind, but he could also play with his back to goal a bit and lay the ball off and bring in other players. Not sure Forss YET has that in his toolkit. I think he has tremendous promise and he is undoubtedly a striker and not a winger but I think he needs a season in the Championship working on his all-around game: back to goal, dropping between the lines etc before being Prem ready.

He will certainly be with us next season. I can't see us loaning him out and why would we? Remember Fergie once saying that over a course of a season one needs 4 quality strikers. Toney, Forss, Bryan (whom I am predicting will have a big year) and plus 1 other will be our 4.
 

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He will certainly be with us next season. I can't see us loaning him out and why would we? Remember Fergie once saying that over a course of a season one needs 4 quality strikers. Toney, Forss, Bryan (whom I am predicting will have a big year) and plus 1 other will be our 4.
Maybe so but it won’t particularly help Forss’ development if he doesn’t often make it onto the bench
 

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Maybe so but it won’t particularly help Forss’ development if he doesn’t often make it onto the bench

Fair comment. My concern loaning out a player like Forss whom knows where the back of the net is if we get any injuries. Do we want to see one of our players hitting the back of the net in the Championship when we may need him in the Premier League?

ps I just love writing Premier League :D
 
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