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Presumably he had to do a test on arrival at Copenhagen…
If he hasn't got proof of full vaccination, yes, but it's also likely that all personnel joining the National team camp also needed a test on arrival.
 

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If he hasn't got proof of full vaccination, yes, but it's also likely that all personnel joining the National team camp also needed a test on arrival.
Yeah, indeed, that’s the assumption I was making
 

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So, 10 days isolation.. Should still be available for Newcastle assuming he doesn't develop any symptoms...
 

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o_O Who would have thought we lost at home to the team at the bottom of the league and were pretty abject for the large majority of the game? ... not SofaScore clearly!! 🤣
To be fair, looking back at it we actually played pretty well second half, we just can’t seem to take our chances. Dreadful start and defence looked all over the shop first half but we’ve got to start putting our chances away.. simple as
 

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o_O Who would have thought we lost at home to the team at the bottom of the league and were pretty abject for the large majority of the game? ... not SofaScore clearly!! 🤣
We played quite well second half imho.
 

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How many times this season has opposition goalie been in team of the week lol
I'd have thought Normann would've been rated higher than Jensen in midfield as Whoscored had Krul behind him, Pinnock and Jensen in their match ratings.
 

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To be fair, looking back at it we actually played pretty well second half, we just can’t seem to take our chances. Dreadful start and defence looked all over the shop first half but we’ve got to start putting our chances away.. simple as

We played very well for the first 24 minutes of the second half until we went to 3-4-3. I watched the whole game back earlier in the week and we were pretty awful most of the rest of the time
 

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yes, that was an astonishing decision, though Toney looked dead on his feet at that point

Things had gone pear-shaped well before the Goode experiment, unfortunately! :(
 

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Made a big difference when he came on. Made runs forward from midfield and moved the ball much quicker.
One of the things I like about Mathias, which a lot of people seem to overlook, is that he enables us to keep the ball moving, when we're in possession. He's always available to receive the ball and then moves it on quickly.
 

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One of the things I like about Mathias, which a lot of people seem to overlook, is that he enables us to keep the ball moving, when we're in possession. he's always available to receive the ball and then moves it on quickly.
He was also very mobile yesterday in dropping back to receive from the defence.
 

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Made a big difference when he came on. Made runs forward from midfield and moved the ball much quicker.
Yes he was good last night. Found some space to operate, was mobile & got us on the front foot. Question is can he do it for the full match as well as the pressing. Think he may well start at Leeds so we'll find out.
 

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Oozed class when he came on, we looked a different team. Has to start against Leeds, its up to a combination of Janelt, Norgaard and Onyeka to grind out the ball winning. Lets give this guy the freedom to express himself.
 

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To add to the general air of disappointment and frustration last night there was some character a few seats down from me who abused Jensen continuously from the moment he came onto the pitch until the final whistle. Quite bizarre really as he actually a very positive difference with his eve for a pass and some of his tracking back was excellent.
 

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Yes he was good last night. Found some space to operate, was mobile & got us on the front foot. Question is can he do it for the full match as well as the pressing. Think he may well start at Leeds so we'll find out.
A very impressive cameo with a lot of movement, passing and interceptions, class. When he was over for corners, which was in front of our seats, he did seem to be puffing a lot, even in the short time on, and we thought it may be a while before he's up for a longer stint or a start.
 

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My personal view is Mathias is suited perfectly to play the last 30 minutes of games in the Premier League, once the game slows down just a touch and space starts to open up. He can exploit that with his wonderful range of passing. I think the game is (generally) just too frantic for him at PL level during the first hour. It's no coincidence that he often ends the game looking great, even if he doesn't start well. We do miss his set piece delivery though when he doesn't start. The midfield balance seems really difficult for us to strike at the moment.
 

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To add to the general air of disappointment and frustration last night there was some character a few seats down from me who abused Jensen continuously from the moment he came onto the pitch until the final whistle. Quite bizarre really as he actually a very positive difference with his eve for a pass and some of his tracking back was excellent.

Some people just can't see or acknowledge what's in front of them.
No player should be beyond reproach and equally, every player has to earn the right of applause every game.
 

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To add to the general air of disappointment and frustration last night there was some character a few seats down from me who abused Jensen continuously from the moment he came onto the pitch until the final whistle. Quite bizarre really as he actually a very positive difference with his eve for a pass and some of his tracking back was excellent.
I'd bet you a £1 he used to do the same to Romaine.
 

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To add to the general air of disappointment and frustration last night there was some character a few seats down from me who abused Jensen continuously from the moment he came onto the pitch until the final whistle. Quite bizarre really as he actually a very positive difference with his eve for a pass and some of his tracking back was excellent.
Why don't these people feck off and support somebody else, because they sure as hell aren't supporting the Bees?
 

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I am one of the fans that don’t think he should start and of course I know that not everyone agrees with me but I thought he improver the team when he came on last night. I wasn’t happy with some of the fans around me that dissed him as soon as he came on . I support whoever is wearing the shirt on the field 100 per cent. Of course lots of post are about so called new fans but our trading methods do rather invite their complaints. When we developed our own players from the youth team we were much more willing to accept their shortcomings and support them hoping for improvement. Our club has done exceedingly well with the new approach but we are all still evolving. You only need to read some post about last night regarding the stadium , food , stewarding etc. Some still waiting the old “tin pot“ Brentford where they felt more involved and accepting what they were presented with and , whilst of course occasionally moaning , feeling members of the club. New Brentford is different with fans being customers who go to the game for an experience and they believe it’s right to let everyone around know when someone is not providing what they expect for money. Interestingly the newer customers seem to see everything/body as good or bad and really struggle to admit someone , like Jensen , who they didn’t want to start came on and improved the team.
 

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Nice cameo on Thursday, but, we need more than nice and more than a cameo.

He always seems better (imo) when played with Christian and Vitaly.

I'm sure we lost to Burnley the last time they started together but that was Vitaly's first game back after injury and was hooked at half time.

I'd like to see a bit more from him as he is bloody good on his day but we can't deny that when Mathias starts we haven't been winning.

Let's hope we get a few back and Mathias can come into a more full strength side and show his abilities 👍
 

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Nice cameo on Thursday, but, we need more than nice and more than a cameo.

He always seems better (imo) when played with Christian and Vitaly.

I'm sure we lost to Burnley the last time they started together but that was Vitaly's first game back after injury and was hooked at half time.

I'd like to see a bit more from him as he is bloody good on his day but we can't deny that when Mathias starts we haven't been winning.

Let's hope we get a few back and Mathias can come into a more full strength side and show his abilities 👍
Yes, agree. He has his fair share of stinkers and giving the ball away, but one thing we have lacked recently (except Newcastle) is any creativity. The midfield of Norgaard, Janelt and Onyeka creates nothing. I'm fairly sure Onyeka will be dropped after Thursday. I don't think both Jensen and Baptiste will start -which one probably depends on how fit Baptiste is - I'd rather have him. Jensen is generally more effective coming on later, not as a starter.
 

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Mathias was part of a triple substitution which vitalised the whole team. Not sure he's a starter vs Leeds who will be pressing at high tempo from the off.It will be very physical. Rather start Baptiste TBH.
 

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It may be too soon after Covid for Matthias to start. Hopefully, Baptiste will be fit enough to start alongside Vitally and Christian. Whatever, this will be my first game attending, and I'll be singing/shouting my support throughout the game.
 
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Mathias was part of a triple substitution which vitalised the whole team. Not sure he's a starter vs Leeds who will be pressing at high tempo from the off.It will be very physical. Rather start Baptiste TBH.
Against Leeds, there's a desperate need for a player to carry the ball forward and through their lines, it's a weakness – without Dasilva, Baptiste is the only player we have who can do that job, so (also given that I think he's more advanced in match fitness) I'd have him in our midfield. Jensen is the right player against a team that play a high line, though.
 

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To add to the general air of disappointment and frustration last night there was some character a few seats down from me who abused Jensen continuously from the moment he came onto the pitch until the final whistle. Quite bizarre really as he actually a very positive difference with his eve for a pass and some of his tracking back was excellent.
Jensen and Baptist both gave us the opportunity to take the ball forward and cause problems.
Frank and Vitaly were both like rabbits in headlights and offered little.
The difference in the midfield after they went off was incredible.
 

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Jensen and Baptist both gave us the opportunity to take the ball forward and cause problems.
Frank and Vitaly were both like rabbits in headlights and offered little.
The difference in the midfield after they went off was incredible.
If they are fit I'd start both against Leeds for exactly the reasons you give. Leeds will give up chances if you have creative players in the middle of the park.
 

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Against Leeds, there's a desperate need for a player to carry the ball forward and through their lines, it's a weakness – without Dasilva, Baptiste is the only player we have who can do that job, so (also given that I think he's more advanced in match fitness) I'd have him in our midfield. Jensen is the right player against a team that play a high line, though.
I'd start both along with Roerslev to play as more defense minded RWB
 

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I'd start both along with Roerslev to play as more defense minded RWB
I'd be inclined to start with one and swap with the other but agree that I'd definitely start Roerslev as defence-minded RWB, who's also much more disciplined at crossing, too.
 
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Can I be the first to say that this is a ‘made up’ stat and that MJ is still sh*t.

Now we’ve got that out the way, well done MJ.
You were the first to say it blatantly…
 

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Isn't much of that because of chances from corners?
Maybe. Though I really don’t mind us making and taking chances of any sort. Scoring from set pieces is something we’re decent at and which TF has from the start said is v important for us. We don’t have and couldn’t afford to buy a Salah or even a Saint Maximin to create and score unerringly from open play so having the ability to do so from corners is good.
 

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Maybe. Though I really don’t mind us making and taking chances of any sort. Scoring from set pieces is something we’re decent at and which TF has from the start said is v important for us. We don’t have and couldn’t afford to buy a Salah or even a Saint Maximin to create and score unerringly from open play so having the ability to do so from corners is good.
Agree and I am a fan of Jensen, its just that stats can be misleading in way of assists generally too. Sometimes you get awarded an assist when the fact is the ball to the assistor was the real reason a goal was created. Stats don't paint a full picture is a point I'm making, but know that Jensen is always likely to be high on the list of assisting in our goals and chances.
 

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Agree and I am a fan of Jensen, its just that stats can be misleading in way of assists generally too. Sometimes you get awarded an assist when the fact is the ball to the assistor was the real reason a goal was created. Stats don't paint a full picture is a point I'm making, but know that Jensen is always likely to be high on the list of assisting in our goals and chances.
Assists for assists (not sure of the technical term, is it packing passes?) are measured but not as widely publicised. I think Jensen does pretty well on those too. Eg a corner he takes which Pinnock nods on to someone else to score gets that stat.
 

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Packing passes are specifically those that take a number of defenders out of the game. They could be ‘assists of assists’ but difficult to correlate. WRT corners, many of our routines are specifically geared to second balls, like Pinnock at the far post, so the taker would also be in that ‘assist to assist’ category.

Surely it’s simpler to just accept that Jensen is an assister and not try to dissect it.
 

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Ever since the euros, in which some of his substitute cameo roles I thought were very effective, I’ve seen something different in him. He’s very silky, will always go for the audacious which when it works looks great and when it’s doesn’t, well...

Last season, I found him very frustrating, because I know, as most of us do, there’s a real creator in there. Know he’s fighting for his place and now he’s reached the pinnacle of where he can conceivably go, I’d love to see more of him whenever possible
 
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