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Jensen playing very well apart from some rather poor free kicks.
That freekick in the 34th minute or so was ridiculous - even i would've struggled to reach that on the back post. But given that Foden (future England legend) kicked a corner straight out a few minutes later, i think we can safely say that sometimes, they miscue it.

Fair play to him tonight, the central of the three in a huge overall mismatch. I don't think it's The Future but it's an Option - i personally don't see why we're so wedded to Christian as the 6, i think he could be an almost equally effective 8 (or sweeper), but as long as that's the case, we won't see Jensen deployed there often and it could be that's his most effective position......

Imagine if his halfway line effort had gone in... just imagine 😲
 

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You've seen what happens when he's not there though, right? We let bloody Sergi take them!!
Sergi is better on set pieces in my opinion, as is just about anyone in the team, we don't score from set pieces, mostly because hardly any of them actually get through. One of our corners hit City's first man, another free kick went miles out for a goal kick. He should shoot more, why not let Toney have a go at taking a free kick if we think we can score because Jensen's deliveries are shocking consistently. Same old same old from Jensen unfortunately, not a bad game as such but not a good one, not good enough for me.
 

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Erm, maybe because if you're 40 yards out you're not going to troubling a keeper of Ederson's quality?
 

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Erm, maybe because if you're 40 yards out you're not going to troubling a keeper of Ederson's quality?
Well then get it in the box on someone's head, which Jensen frequently fails to do. Plus our tactic of playing to the edge of the box for Pinnock to head down doesn't seem to be working. Roerslev could be developed into a great set piece specialist
 

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Well then get it in the box on someone's head, which Jensen frequently fails to do. Plus our tactic of playing to the edge of the box for Pinnock to head down doesn't seem to be working. Roerslev could be developed into a great set piece specialist

TF see's them in training every day mate. I'm sure he would take him of set piece duties if he wasn't the best option.
 
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Some excellent set piece deliveries. I can’t believe we have someone so good in the team that gets so much abuse.

Sorry I am not one to criticise and I haven’t ever with Jensen and think overall he had a good game and stuck to his task well but he made one excellent cross in the first half but he made two poor crosses in the second half. One from a corner when he didn’t beat the first man and the second that went out of play. He needs to do better. That is constructive feedback.
 

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Some excellent set piece deliveries. I can’t believe we have someone so good in the team that gets so much abuse.

3 poor free kicks and a poor corner. We need absolute quality of delivery in games like this as we were bound to have very few chances and Jensen's was not up to scratch.

His work off the ball tonight was as good as I have seen from him and we needed that tonight.
 

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TF see's them in training every day mate. I'm sure he would take him of set piece duties if he wasn't the best option.
I appreciate that, if TF they're the best in the squad, then fair enough. But I can only judge by what I've seen over the past 2 years. Jensen is a very technically specific player, he has a killer eye for a pass and that means he usually attempts more passes than others such as Norgaard and Janelt would, often leading to him giving the ball away. Now from my view, I can't see why he is on free kicks, but I can't disagree with the manager
 

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TF see's them in training every day mate. I'm sure he would take him of set piece duties if he wasn't the best option.
He did to a large extent at Brighton and agreed with the pundit that they were sh1t in previous game, however I am not a Jensen fan but tonight
was a good performance.
 

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Sergi is better on set pieces in my opinion, as is just about anyone in the team, we don't score from set pieces, mostly because hardly any of them actually get through. One of our corners hit City's first man, another free kick went miles out for a goal kick. He should shoot more, why not let Toney have a go at taking a free kick if we think we can score because Jensen's deliveries are shocking consistently. Same old same old from Jensen unfortunately, not a bad game as such but not a good one, not good enough for me.
Comedy gold…
 

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You can if you want, I won't bother to read it.
Some people love him, I take the opposite view & see him as a real hindrance.
The back room staff must be planning an upgrade for him.
 

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Yes, he dithers on the ball.
He can’t take a set piece.
Can’t tackle.
Can’t time the killer ball right.
Shall I go on?
That’s clearly a list of the things you exclusively look for which I find particularly sad.
 

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That’s clearly a list of the things you exclusively look for which I find particularly sad.
I don’t “look for them” I see him do them.
 

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And the award for strangest observational post....

I quite like how when he takes a free kick or corner, instead of holding both hands in the air like most players do, he kind of just throws up two fingers, like he's doing a rally quick peace sign.
 

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He needs his teammantes to be making runs of him; long or short. You can see him looking up sometimes and having to check back to buy time as others are static. This can be the moment he loses the ball or makes a sh*t pass. I always think he's a brave player and never hides. If his teammates always did the same; making positive runs or dropping short for the ball, then it'd gel more. He's just the type of player we need, but not always effective, because of the above. I'm more worried about Sorenson and Pinnock at the moment.
 

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He needs his teammantes to be making runs of him; long or short. You can see him looking up sometimes and having to check back to buy time as others are static. This can be the moment he loses the ball or makes a sh*t pass. I always think he's a brave player and never hides. If his teammates always did the same; making positive runs or dropping short for the ball, then it'd gel more. He's just the type of player we need, but not always effective, because of the above. I'm more worried about Sorenson and Pinnock at the moment.
I worry that the same used to be said for McEachran.....
 

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He needs his teammantes to be making runs of him; long or short. You can see him looking up sometimes and having to check back to buy time as others are static. This can be the moment he loses the ball or makes a sh*t pass. I always think he's a brave player and never hides. If his teammates always did the same; making positive runs or dropping short for the ball, then it'd gel more. He's just the type of player we need, but not always effective, because of the above. I'm more worried about Sorenson and Pinnock at the moment.
I was just about to say, I think Dasilva being available would benefit Jensen more than anyone. Having someone that can really drive with sheer power and speed at defences like JDS would allow him to make these killer passes he is meant to. His creative potential is massive if he has the right team to support him, we are quite depleted now and overperforming really. If we move back to a 4 3 3 if we get this Ukrainian lad in amongst others, Jensen would thrive. It's just at the moment, his confidence probably isn't at it's highest, especially after being Subbed at HT the other day. The team around him are pretty much static, we need someone to make a run at defences to keep then on their toes
 
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Sorry I am not one to criticise and I haven’t ever with Jensen and think overall he had a good game and stuck to his task well but... That is constructive feedback.
No, it’s not. It’s not-picking ☹️
 

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...........yep...........even got tackled by the ref................
 

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No, it’s not. It’s not-picking ☹️
One can and should be able to provide constructive feedback on this forum without criticism a player. Read my comment, he played well but he just has to do better with his set pieces. Not nit picking at all. It is a fact.
 

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The Jensen-Lovers see no flaws... the Haters see only flaws. The gap shall remain unbridged until he leaves or pulls it together and convinces us all that he's really good, a la Romaine..... but Romaine had done it by now, hadn't he? (2.5yrs in)

Btw can any of our Danish correspondents tell us who would be next in line for the Danish squad in midfield? @The Dane etc. Just curious. The fact that he's a Danish international seems to be a crutch the defence leans on, but i wonder if there just might not be many of them...
 

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The Jensen-Lovers see no flaws... the Haters see only flaws. The gap shall remain unbridged until he leaves or pulls it together and convinces us all that he's really good, a la Romaine..... but Romaine had done it by now, hadn't he? (2.5yrs in)

Btw can any of our Danish correspondents tell us who would be next in line for the Danish squad in midfield? @The Dane etc. Just curious. The fact that he's a Danish international seems to be a crutch the defence leans on, but i wonder if there just might not be many of them...
No-one's saying he hasn't got any flaws. He was one I was hoping would really take to the Prem but so far it's not really happened for him. What irks me is the constant sniping regardless of his performance. He had a great game tonight, worked his arse off and did all the 'tough' stuff that no-one thought he was up for. His pressing high up early in the game got us going and gave us that really positive spell. Made a couple of significant blocks and was at it all game. Yet, here we are having a debate about him again. Yes, some of his set pieces were crap, but some were v good and we nearly scored from one. Yes, he's got talent, yes, sometimes he looks like he's half a second behind the play, yes, sometimes he waves his leg at a tackle, yes, sometimes he picks out a pass no-one expects, but for once could we not just agree he had a good game and leave it at that?? Some people seem desperate to find fault with his game and I don't really get it. Not been a big fan of Onyeka so far but today he put in a real shift and that's great to see. I could though go on his thread and say, 'Well, his final ball is always a bit of a disaster isn't it?' or some such but where does that get anyone, particularly on a day when we've had our backs to the wall and everyone's stood up. I just find it so boring.. Sorry, rant over.. Oh, and barging over that useless f***er Grealish should have been a highlight for any discerning football fan....
 

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he was excellent today much improved performance keep it up Mathias
 

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So many people talk about Jensen as an attacking midfielder, but the best games I’ve seen him play are when he sits much deeper. He can’t do it when Norgaard’s there, otherwise they’d be on each other’s toes, but the role suits him so much better.
 

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@Mr Cynical
I was thinking about this though (more in relation to Wissa than your Onyeka comparison), and i think the difference is time - we've seen 2.5yrs of this from MJ vs 6 months for Yoane and Frank, so they still retain that hope that they can step up a level, the best is yet to come, etc...

Otherwise, i don't think there's a debate, really - just a philosophical difference. It's almost like politics - either side just won't see what the other is seeing. As a "hater", people aren't on here disparaging him - just commenting. But the "lovers" jump straight in as soon as comment is made, and off we go again... i think that's just how it goes on this sort of forum, though 🤷‍♂️
 

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The Jensen-Lovers
Who are these Jensen lovers please Mr Tree? I don‘t recall there being that much love for Jensen on this thread.
 

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Who are these Jensen lovers please Mr Tree? I don‘t recall there being that much love for Jensen on this thread.
Just simplified terms for ease of understanding - i doubt anyone really hates him, either :)

Jensen-Defenders, if you will. Or what were they a few years back, the RTB? Rose-tinted brigade?
 
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