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Mr Football Brain, can you name me any player who wouldn’t look better playing for Man City or Liverpool please?
Midnight is a long way off, have a bit more water with it.
Plenty of players would look rubbish in the City or Liverpool side, and no worst than in there current team. An easy example would be Douglas would have looked rubbish in City and Liverpool, whereas excelled for us, and Jensen currently struggling in our current system but would looked better in current City or Liverpool side. The fact I'm having too even explain this kind of proves my point lol

I'm not saying Jensen is playing well, because he isn't but he isn't playing bad either to get the rubbish he does. Our current system isn't getting the best out of our most creative/best passer in the side.

Now two options really he goes or we adjust slightly to get more out of him.

Either way great player.
 

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Plenty of players would look rubbish in the City or Liverpool side, and no worst than in there current team. An easy example would be Douglas would have looked rubbish in City and Liverpool, whereas excelled for us, and Jensen currently struggling in our current system but would looked better in current City or Liverpool side. The fact I'm having too even explain this kind of proves my point lol

I'm not saying Jensen is playing well, because he isn't but he isn't playing bad either to get the rubbish he does. Our current system isn't getting the best out of our most creative/best passer in the side.

Now two options really he goes or we adjust slightly to get more out of him.

Either way great player.
Pointing Douglas, not for me either.
 
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It is of course a valid point to say that we don't have so many runners and so much space, due to being a smaller team in a tough league and often setting up quite defensively.
So basically just agreed with my entire point :owusu:;)
I never said he was playing really well, just that we aren't getting the best out of him, because as you have said "we don't have so many runners and so much space".

He is currently plodding along at 6.5/7 out of 10 performances and I don't think we're see a 10/10 in this current system.
The same argument we all have with Forss another very talented player that some slate (bonkers!) but again another player that doesn't suit our current system.
 

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Before we all get too excited, I’d like to remind you all that our record of losing when Jensen starts is still intact*

FAQs
Q - how does that work when Jensen started and we won?

A - Jensen was subbed off at 1-1 so it doesn’t count


* I don’t make the rules.
 

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Before we all get too excited, I’d like to remind you all that our record of losing when Jensen starts is still intact*

FAQs
Q - how does that work when Jensen started and we won?

A - Jensen was subbed off at 1-1 so it doesn’t count


* I don’t make the rules.
We won.
Jensen started.

I do make the rules.

He didn't play well today but even when he went off, our set plays were poor.
Something to look at !
 

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Lovely touch for first goal. I think he carried on his attitude from Man City with his running. Going to get in early here…
It was clearly a tactic to miss out an extra pass in midfield and try and get the Villa defence turning, but our strikers were not making any channel runs (and pretty poor in general) so the lofted balls that seemed crap I don’t actually blame Jensen for. He was also one of the few running into gaps and trying to create forward movement. Thankfully it seemed Thomas gave his head a shake (and his team’s) and we stopped doing it so much second half and tired to work the ball forward so all the midfielders looked better.
 

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We won.
Jensen started.

I do make the rules.

He didn't play well today but even when he went off, our set plays were poor.
Something to look at !
We’ve won 2 games that he’s started, Watford he came off at 1-0, today came off at 1-0. Performance isn’t based off set plays.
 

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We won.
Jensen started.

I do make the rules.

He didn't play well today but even when he went off, our set plays were poor.
Something to look at !
We won cos we took him off FFS 🙄 the only reason we win too…I’m near to giving up on him…we are so much better without him 🙄
 

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We won cos we took him off FFS 🙄 the only reason we win too…I’m near to giving up on him…we are so much better without him 🙄
I know there's always one or two players, fans feel the need to highlight as the reason we occasionally lose games.

Jensen still has a vital role to play this season. He helped set up the equaliser

Maybe don't write him off just yet.
 

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Class pass to help set up the equaliser. 👍

We definitely looked more dynamic when he was replaced in the second half.
 

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I know there's always one or two players, fans feel the need to highlight as the reason we occasionally lose games.

Jensen still has a vital role to play this season. He helped set up the equaliser

Maybe don't write him off just yet.
One thing…..that shouldn’t guarantee you a start next game….those that have played,managed.reffed etc etc know he’s the weak link in that team…it’s not even up for discussion….tf will play him against port vale and they will relish it 👊👊🙄 should be nowhere near our starting 11 once missing players are back 👍
 

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We would never have won that game if he stayed on….and that’s a fact 👍
Voice, I'm not going to trade punches with a fella such as your good self. We've both made our point. Just one thing though....

... please, please, please, for the sake of fk... is it not about time you started the official relegation thread? You are threatening our very survival in the top flight by not doing so!! ;-) :) !!!
 
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I loved his work in the move leading to the first goal and hope he’s not badly hurt.

Did I get it wrong or did he give the ball away tomorrow e if their players in our box right after halftime?.
 

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One thing…..that shouldn’t guarantee you a start next game….those that have played,managed.reffed etc etc know he’s the weak link in that team…it’s not even up for discussion….tf will play him against port vale and they will relish it 👊👊🙄 should be nowhere near our starting 11 once missing players are back 👍
...........he was phenomenal against Oldham................
 

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I loved his work in the move leading to the first goal and hope he’s not badly hurt.

Did I get it wrong or did he give the ball away tomorrow e if their players in our box right after halftime?.
Yes. He nearly cost us a goal. It was today though. ;-)
 

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From my earlier effort in the Chelsea League Cup match thread. Seems relevant today:

Don’t bother. It’s a pointless conversation. There will be a constantly redefined set of criteria that makes it impossible to give Jensen any credit. Let me explain:

You say:
Jensen played 60 mins at West Ham and we won
They say:
He didn’t start the match so it doesn’t count

You say:
Jensen played 70 mins against Watford and we won
They say:
We scored after he was subbed so it doesn’t count

You say:
Jensen played the full 90 mins v Bournemouth in the play offs and the full 90 v Swansea at Wembley.
They say:
That was last season so it doesn’t count

You say:
The stats show Jensen made more key passes (Burnley) or created more chances (Norwich) than any other Bees player
They say:
That’s a made up stat.

And so it repeats ad nauseam
And now we’re up to:

You say:
It was an excellent pass through to Roerslev in the build up to the equaliser
They say:
But we wouldn’t have won if he’d stayed on

Presumably the logic is that it’s harder to set up a winner than an equaliser…

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Voice, I'm not going to trade punches with a fella such as your good self. We've both made our point. Just one thing though....

... please, please, please, for the sake of fk... is it not about time you started the official relegation thread? You are threatening our very survival in the top flight by not doing so!! ;-) :) !!!
Nope …winning today has kept us up 👍 thanks to TF substitution on 70mins👀😁
 
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One thing…..that shouldn’t guarantee you a start next game….those that have played,managed.reffed etc etc know he’s the weak link in that team…it’s not even up for discussion….tf will play him against port vale and they will relish it 👊👊🙄 should be nowhere near our starting 11 once missing players are back 👍
Sorry VOB, I played/captained a Saturday side in the Southern Amatuer League for 23 years winning 11 league titles and 7 cup finals. I was always happy to accommodate a "luxury" player in the side who could create or convert chances providing the other players could cover his lack of defensive actions. No I would not play him against a league 2 side or an aggressive Burnley type prem side or a side like man city where we spend 80% of the time in a low defensive block. But against the majority of Prem sides he would start.
 

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Sorry VOB, I played/captained a Saturday side in the Southern Amatuer League for 23 years winning 11 league titles and 7 cup finals. I was always happy to accommodate a "luxury" player in the side who could create or convert chances providing the other players could cover his lack of defensive actions. No I would not play him against a league 2 side or an aggressive Burnley type prem side or a side like man city where we spend 80% of the time in a low defensive block. But against the majority of Prem sides he would start.
That’s your opinion…mine is most of my fellow players would be cringing at the 70/30 in his favour tackles he pulls outi of👍😉 yes a luxury player when the other 3 in midfield are ball winners but we don’t have that luxury at the moment imho👍
 

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I loved his work in the move leading to the first goal and hope he’s not badly hurt.

Did I get it wrong or did he give the ball away tomorrow e if their players in our box right after halftime?.
I thought it was him, but I’m at the other end. Frank subbed him pdq after that though. We were better after he went off, but then again we’ve often finished games better than we’ve started them.
 

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Retrieved the ball better than anyone outside of the defence in the last three. (With the exception of Norgaard today).

Yes, I was there.

People see what they want to see IMO. ;-)
If you add the goalie, Toney, Wissa and Nørgaard to the defence, it only leaves 3 other players!
 

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To be honest if I was playing I would have left him out of the whole move and prob scored 5 seconds earlier 👍😉
Have you been talking to the Telegraph?

"Roerslev played a neat one-two with Norgaard and crossed low for Yoane Wissa to outwit Kortney Hause and smash his first goal since that win at West Ham past Martinez."

Jensen air-brushed from history. :-(
 

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Have you been talking to the Telegraph?

"Roerslev played a neat one-two with Norgaard and crossed low for Yoane Wissa to outwit Kortney Hause and smash his first goal since that win at West Ham past Martinez."

Jensen air-brushed from history. :-(
It’s for the best 👀😂😂
 

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We weren't getting anywhere near a position to shoot until somebody beat their man which Jensen did. That long passing move goes nowhere without it
The opportunity for that pass was created by Roerslev's run. Without that l suspect MJ would have simply lost possession as there was nowhere else to play the ball.How far back do you want to go in analysing the move? For sure IMO we wouldn't have scored if the ball hadn't been delivered to Wissa.Brilliant goal.
 

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Sorry VOB, I played/captained a Saturday side in the Southern Amatuer League for 23 years winning 11 league titles and 7 cup finals. I was always happy to accommodate a "luxury" player in the side who could create or convert chances providing the other players could cover his lack of defensive actions. No I would not play him against a league 2 side or an aggressive Burnley type prem side or a side like man city where we spend 80% of the time in a low defensive block. But against the majority of Prem sides he would start.
It’s the Premier League. Luxury players don’t exist.
 

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One thing…..that shouldn’t guarantee you a start next game….those that have played,managed.reffed etc etc know he’s the weak link in that team…it’s not even up for discussion….tf will play him against port vale and they will relish it 👊👊🙄 should be nowhere near our starting 11 once missing players are back 👍
If everyone is fit, I agree.
Janelt, Norgaard and Da Silva are the preferred 3.
Baptiste possibly in with a shout.

But like Marcondes last season, Jensen will be important at some point (like today)

He's not sh*t.
 
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