I saw him make a tackle today. So do one boo boys
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That's just not fair. At least one of them was a great save. And how many of our midfield would finish the one on one. If Jensen plays like he did today in every game from now on we'll be we'll happy.
Mr Cynical
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It was our defending that cost us the game.. We had plenty of other chances but let in three and you're always going to struggle.
If we were two up at half time, which we should have been, then we win the match.
Jensen needs to play in and around the opposition box, that is where he is most effective, if he could find Lampards shooting boots we would have one hell of a player
He's scored one goal in two and a half seasons for us - think he needs more than a pair of shooting boots.
All the good he did in the game was cancelled out by missing three chances. Ghoddos would have finished
two of the three.
Alex
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As I said to my daughter about the Jensen hater behind me. Some people only see what they want to see
Voice from the Braemar
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Just the one ? I take it all back then…he’s our new gerrardI saw him make a tackle today. So do one boo boys
Isleworth_Bee
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Haters will always hate VoiceJust the one ? I take it all back then…he’s our new gerrard
Voice from the Braemar
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Some people want to see him put the ball in the net when clean through….TF is prob one of em
Voice from the Braemar
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I don’t like him….don’t hate him just don’t like him…for me he’s a luxury and we can’t afford luxuries at this point of the season…we need better as I’ve said 1543 times if we are to stay up ….this or next season
Alex
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I do too, but I'm not going to dig him out for it.Some people want to see him put the ball in the net when clean through….TF is prob one of em
LostBee
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Voice from the Braemar
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I knowWow, you've kept that really quiet
….he starts and we hardly ever win…the stats don’t lie…check em out…a proper fact a fkin luxury
NorthamptonBee
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Nah, we’re not the dog and duck, we can attract players who can midfield a bit and score a few.
Old B
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I’m on record as not being his greatest fan, but, I feel he was one of our better players, was trying to tackle, was going forward, if only …..
IslandBee
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Glass half empty - never looked like taking one of his chances, at least one of which was gilt-edged
Glass half full - looked more on it than anytime this season so far, worked very hard, and was an important reason why we played a lot more football than of late
Glass half full - looked more on it than anytime this season so far, worked very hard, and was an important reason why we played a lot more football than of late
Isleworth_Bee
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We need better yes but what we do need is his ability or as you call it luxury. In the games he doesn’t start we have zero creativity. He pushes forward and picks quality balls out ala Toney at Liverpool. When he’s not in there we are actually very toothless.I don’t like him….don’t hate him just don’t like him…for me he’s a luxury and we can’t afford luxuries at this point of the season…we need better as I’ve said 1543 times if we are to stay up ….this or next season
We just need a consistent upgrade.
wibs
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In not a Jensen hater, but people's tolerance of what is good is now so low.
"He made a couple of tackles "
He is Centre mid, its almost impossible not to!
"If he could finish he would be great.
Well he can't finish, he proved that. Rashford can finish, and did.
"Unfortunately he struggles to hit the ball with any power" That's not unfortunate it's just crap.
We all want him to be great, but he just isn't. He made one aesthetically pleasing volleyed pass to the left wing in the second half that serms to have convinced everyone he is worth persevering with.
I don't think he is a bad player but I can't imagine any other club in the PL buying him if we made him available.
Bizarrely, I think he had as many chances in front of goal today as he's had in the last year put together. Unfortunately, he's a bit too nice when it really matters. Needs to learn to get his head over the ball and smash it as hard as possible, even if it means taking the keeper's head off.
Alex
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you do a very good impression of one then
wibs
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Hate is a strong word, I don't hate him and have repeatedly said he does some good things, but overall he has repeatedly proved he simply isn't good enough.
NorthamptonBee
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Hater, scapegoat it’s all bs, just when people that rate him have usually run out of excuses for the player. I don’t hate him either but I don’t like him starting, played well tonight but probably lost us the game too.
Alex
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How would you describe it then?
They are a team of players and all try and do the something positive for the team, but sadly sometimes they fail to do what they intended. For all but one of the players the reaction is one of consolation or encouragment to do better next time, yet for one player its, "for f***s sake, you're f***ing sh*t, f*** of out of our club you're f***ing useless" and so on.
Sounds like hate to me.
They are a team of players and all try and do the something positive for the team, but sadly sometimes they fail to do what they intended. For all but one of the players the reaction is one of consolation or encouragment to do better next time, yet for one player its, "for f***s sake, you're f***ing sh*t, f*** of out of our club you're f***ing useless" and so on.
Sounds like hate to me.
upnorthbee
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Dunno about luxury, I reckon he made as many tackles today as Vitaly and Christian. What is true tho is Saman is sat on the bench with probably the best shot on him as any of our midfielders, I reckon deserves a chance again and I think he would have taken one of those chances.I don’t like him….don’t hate him just don’t like him…for me he’s a luxury and we can’t afford luxuries at this point of the season…we need better as I’ve said 1543 times if we are to stay up ….this or next season
I think we're currently doing everything we can to get an upgrade on Jensen either way in the form of Christian Eriksen. If that doesn't come off, Josh Da Silva could also be the answer... either way I doubt he'll be a starter next season.
Really good game. Some of his passing was sublime. There was definately a tactical decision for him and Janelt to break midfield lines but his shots were a little soft. I was left thinking JDS would probably have made most of those chances.
Hippobee
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True to an extent, but it's questionable we would have let in 3 had we gone ahead. We go in at HT 1 or 2 up and the mindset of the defence is totally different.
For evermore, there have been games where a side is well on top, doesn't convert their chances and the opposition take one and score. Two things then happen:
-Psychologically, heads drop and players think it's unfair.
-The team then commit more players to try and score quickly, leaving gaps and holes. This is exactly what happened last night.
If we had scored one and maybe even two, the two teams' approach for the 2nd half would have been totally different. We would probably have switched to our Man City tactics of safety first and hit Utd on the break. There is no way that shower would have got two goals then, let alone 3.
Easy to focus on the missed chances because they were major moments.
But I would love to see his running stats, tackles won, creative output etc. Honestly reckon he was more effective than Nørgaard who never attracts criticism.
And at least for those missed chances, he was breaking into the box and taking up threatening positions, which our midfielders hardly ever do.
But I would love to see his running stats, tackles won, creative output etc. Honestly reckon he was more effective than Nørgaard who never attracts criticism.
And at least for those missed chances, he was breaking into the box and taking up threatening positions, which our midfielders hardly ever do.
Brentford77
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Our best midfielder last night by a county mileWe must be watching a different game to some…he’s weak, gives the ball away all the time and has a finish like a 7 year old…what’s there to like ??? We will go down if he continues to start….someone tell TF ???
SlumanBee
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His best game of the season (saying much?) but hits every shot like a pass. Soft. No venom at all.
Mr Tree
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good energy, poor technique and/or decisions in vital moments. strange. don't forget the volley at the edge of the area in the first couple of minutes - the Jensen Fan Club would probably tell you that he's the best player at the club for such a chance to fall to, but he miscued it. but yeah, good energy, contributed more than Shandon has in recent matches...
mundee4england
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His game game for a while, but really had to take one of the chances.
Perhaps more importantly the tactical change that got him and/or Janelt up into the final third more often really made a difference and meant we got more from the front two who were far less isolated.
Perhaps more importantly the tactical change that got him and/or Janelt up into the final third more often really made a difference and meant we got more from the front two who were far less isolated.
Rob-BEE
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Jensen has never been a goal scorer, that doesn't make him a bad player, it's just not part of his game. What he did really really well yesterday was taking the ball forward and being positive, always looking for the forward pass. He even had a shot from the halfway line! We played better, especially in the first half, and that was in part due to a very strong performance from Jensen.
It's easy to say he should have taken at least one of his chances yesterday, but why should we berate him for falling short in the area of his game which is a known weakness. It's like calling out Rico Henry for not winning a header against Harry Maguire. If Norgaard had missed those chances would we all be jumping on him? I don't think we would.
If anything, it just highlights what we've been missing all season, a midfielder who can score goals. Janelt is the closest to that description, and JDS will help massively when he's back. The others in the squad just don't have that in their locker.
It's easy to say he should have taken at least one of his chances yesterday, but why should we berate him for falling short in the area of his game which is a known weakness. It's like calling out Rico Henry for not winning a header against Harry Maguire. If Norgaard had missed those chances would we all be jumping on him? I don't think we would.
If anything, it just highlights what we've been missing all season, a midfielder who can score goals. Janelt is the closest to that description, and JDS will help massively when he's back. The others in the squad just don't have that in their locker.
taxi driver
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If those chances fall to Eriksen, we win the first half for sure.
Jensen did what Jensen does, looked good but failed to deliver when it was most needed.
Ghoddos isn't the answer either.
A real shame for Jensen that he flatters to deceive.
Bangor Bee
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I have no problem with him passing the ball into the net, which the best players often do. Unfortunately he doesn't stay cool or confident enough to do that either. Last night was certainly one of his better games, but missing those chances was key to the outcome.
Lionel Bart-At
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Think you may have omitted a key comma there. ;-) LOL
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AB
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Not everyone is lax on punctuation. Maybe he knew what he was doing?
Lionel Bart-At
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Exactly this. His tackling has actually been decent for weeks now. I reckon possibly since Watford. People don't even notice. Strange collective psychological phenomenon!
I'd venture that if I had the time, resources and know-how (actually I do have the time, just not the other two), I could put together a very persuasive video of clips to make my point.
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Beeswaxnees
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Easily his best game this season, but he really needed to score that first effort, otherwise could have gone on to score a hat-trick.
If Dasilva is fit and gets those chances, we’re probably 2-0 up at half time. We really miss his goals from midfield.
In the second half he struck a wonderful volleyed pass, if he’d hit his early chance like that I don’t think De Gea gets anywhere near it. So he has the technique/ability to finish those chances but for some reason can’t do it in front of goal (yet).
nick logan
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Our best performance for ages , no coincidence that its because MJ allowed IT and BM to play nearer to goal.
imho obvs
imho obvs
AB
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In part it might be because we’ve focused hard all season until recently on not shooting from distance but being patient to get into POMOs so neither Jensen nor any other midfielder has actually been shooting a lot from the positions they have been instructed to take up. Yesterday we clearly gave him licence to play far up in support of Toney and Mbeumo but that’s new and unfamiliar so he’s not had a season worth of shooting at all, let alone from well inside the penalty area. At this level you’ve got to finish near perfectly to score against top keepers like De Gea- that’s why Bryan has hit the woodwork so much, he’s had to try and go as far from the keeper and just gone a few inches too far. Jensen did what everyone who’s groaned at Mbeumo’s near misses wanted Bryan to do, hit it more directly and force the keeper to have to work to keep it out (Toney also takes this approach and has also not netted much doing so). Obviously the ideal is between those extremes but that is also obviously far easier said than done. They’re all doing the right thing and with repetition it’ll start to come off.
Also he didn't miss the chances, they were saved by probably the best keeper saving with legs in the world. Some need to realise a goalkeeper was doing the job he is paid to do. His overall game was good last night and good that he was making those runs that led to the saves, other days he doesn't get the chances.I saw him make a tackle today. So do one boo boys