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Well its almost that time of the year again.

Am in the very fortunate position of being able to attend the 49ers first home game of the season against the Atlanta Falcons (Thanks to Santa Barbara Bee :wave: ) which promises to be a very spicy affair with Jim Mora Jr returning to S.F and the return of Michael Vick.

Don't expect a very good season for the 49ers, probably end up between 4-12 and 6-10, we will miss Owens and Garcia. Our pre-season has been woeful.

As for contenders to this seasons Superbowl, I'm going for Philly. The Owens factor will tilt things their way and their D has always been strong. Expect Carolina to be strong again and never rule a 3peat from the Pats.

Oh and Ricky Williams :eek: what an earth is he playing at ???
 

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Well Mr Williams has hinted that at least part of the reason he retired was a failed drugs test, although the NFL & Miami seem to know nothing about this. It does seem rather curious though, one minute he's had enough of the NFL, the next he's saying he could be tempted to play next year for the Raiders.

I agree this could be the year the Eagles finally make it to the Super Bowl, the AFC looks quite open, expect many of the familiar candidates from last year to be successful again (Pats, Colts, Chiefs).
 
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Simon T said:
Well Mr Williams has hinted that at least part of the reason he retired was a failed drugs test, although the NFL & Miami seem to know nothing about this. It does seem rather curious though, one minute he's had enough of the NFL, the next he's saying he could be tempted to play next year for the Raiders.

I agree this could be the year the Eagles finally make it to the Super Bowl, the AFC looks quite open, expect many of the familiar candidates from last year to be successful again (Pats, Colts, Chiefs).
I'd heard he had completely lost the plot, shaved off all his dreadlocks, wanted to become a monk and do a round the world tour. He is overated anyway not consistently productive yet has/had the talent to do so.
 

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Is there any NFL on five this year? I know the playoffs are on ITV.
 

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The season officially opens tonight with New England taking on the Colts (what an opener!!). The telecast will have an 8 second delay so that the NFL can censor any 'costume malfunctioning' on the part of Jessica Simpson during the half-time show (i.e. to prevent repeats of the Janet Jackson flashing 'incident' during the Super Bowl). Lenny Kravitz is also performing. The big question is, why?
 
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CJC said:
Is there any NFL on five this year? I know the playoffs are on ITV.
Five will show every Monday night game live, from week 1. Show starts at 1.35 and will include weekend highlights (no separate highlights show this season). When baseball season ends the late night Sunday game will also be live. Mike Carlson back as studio expert but Mark Webster is not returning.

Got this from the still worth a read First Down.

I'm just delighted my beloved Redskins are live on Sky this Sunday. :D And while I've always steered clear of having any Redskins on my fantasy team (in a keeper league) I'll make an exception for Clinton Portis (who I drafted when he came into the NFL).

Anyone else in fantasy leagues? I also drafted Jamal Lewis and Kevan Barlow. hey, I've got good record with rookie RBs... :cool:
 

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Jam Jar said:
Well its almost that time of the year again.

Am in the very fortunate position of being able to attend the 49ers first home game of the season against the Atlanta Falcons (Thanks to Santa Barbara Bee :wave: ) which promises to be a very spicy affair with Jim Mora Jr returning to S.F and the return of Michael Vick.

Don't expect a very good season for the 49ers, probably end up between 4-12 and 6-10, we will miss Owens and Garcia. Our pre-season has been woeful.

As for contenders to this seasons Superbowl, I'm going for Philly. The Owens factor will tilt things their way and their D has always been strong. Expect Carolina to be strong again and never rule a 3peat from the Pats.

Oh and Ricky Williams :eek: what an earth is he playing at ???
Hi Jam Jar. I agree about the Niners and they could wind up with their season highlight being the landing of the first draft pick. I like the Patriots with Tom Brady at QB. I met Joe Montana today and he told me that was his choice.

If you tell me your seat and section numbers I'll try to find you at the Falcons game if you're not too far away from mine in Section 10 Upper Reserve.
 

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Great game tonight - I thought both teams looked impressive. The Colts should have won but turnovers killed them. I'm so jealous that you got to meet Joe Montana!!! Good luck to the Niners against Vick and Co. - they're probably going to need it. Just as along as you beat the Rams at least once this season.

I just got back from a 6000 mile round trip to Toronto and drove past the Bengals' new stadium in Cincinnati - it looks amazing - and stayed next to Arrowhead in KC - it still looks impressive. I also managed to give the finger to the Rams' indoor home (The Loftus Rd. of the NFL) as I negotiated the tangled downtown freeways of St. Louis. :) :)
 

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Great game tonight - I thought both teams looked impressive. The Colts should have won but turnovers killed them.
An awesome start to the season :yes: The Sky studio team picked up on the fact that quite a lot of Patriots fans missed the ending in-order to beat the queues to get home :eek: Insane or what?
 

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It's a game that intrigues me with its utter American ness. Whats this TAKING A KNEE for fecks sake? lol lol lo. Then SKY had some gorilla in a suit - Jeez he was wide, helping Nick (no one liked me at school) Halling and some other Yank spouting a load of Americanisms.

Mind you, lots of betting opportunities :D
 

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An awesome start to the season :yes: The Sky studio team picked up on the fact that quite a lot of Patriots fans missed the ending in-order to beat the queues to get home :eek: Insane or what?
Awesome?????!!! Get a grip SC, Americanism is getting to ya :yes:
 

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Five will show every Monday night game live, from week 1. Show starts at 1.35 and will include weekend highlights (no separate highlights show this season). When baseball season ends the late night Sunday game will also be live. Mike Carlson back as studio expert but Mark Webster is not returning.

Got this from the still worth a read First Down.

I'm just delighted my beloved Redskins are live on Sky this Sunday. :D And while I've always steered clear of having any Redskins on my fantasy team (in a keeper league) I'll make an exception for Clinton Portis (who I drafted when he came into the NFL).

Anyone else in fantasy leagues? I also drafted Jamal Lewis and Kevan Barlow. hey, I've got good record with rookie RBs... :cool:
Drafted???!!!! You and I will have words this Saturday Joker, you are getting the poxy illness too :nono:
 

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"taking a knee" - the quarterback kneels to lose a down and keep the clock running down. This usually happens when they are leading within the final 2 minutes.

go Fins... whoooooooooo
 

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Drafted???!!!! You and I will have words this Saturday Joker, you are getting the poxy illness too :nono:
When I first got into this sport I didn't even know where Brentford was! :D Now I love both Brentford and gridiron very much, and appreciate both sports for what they are.
 

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When I first got into this sport I didn't even know where Brentford was! :D Now I love both Brentford and gridiron very much, and appreciate both sports for what they are.
You liked Gridiron BEFORE The Bees :eek: :nono:
 

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"taking a knee" - the quarterback kneels to lose a down and keep the clock running down. This usually happens when they are leading within the final 2 minutes.

go Fins... whoooooooooo
Line of Scrimmage - that's another cracker!

ps. I know what they are H, they're just very funny innit lol
 

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tough :thumbs:

"Line of Scrimmage" - an imaginary line across the pitch where the ball is placed at the start of each play....

won my Smith (CAR) over Walker (GB) yardage SPIN bet last night.... bought for £1.25 @ 20... Smith 60yds, Walker 37...

:idea: i just won £3.75 :bound:
 

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won my Smith (CAR) over Walker (GB) yardage SPIN bet last night.... bought for £1.25 @ 20... Smith 60yds, Walker 37...

:idea: i just won £3.75 :bound:
Congratulations. Won't be able to bet on him again this season though - Smith broke his leg. :eek:
 

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Moved to London in 1991. Gridiron was around in the UK long before that... :wave:
I believe coverage of American Football started over here on C4 in 1983.I was delighted to see the Patriots win their opening game on Thursday.Foxboro will never be "Peyton's Place". :D
 

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Sorry to see that Jam Jar and California Bee didn't get the result they wanted but hope they had a great day out. The Niners did well to come back to give themselves a chance to tie but they're really going to struggle if the offensive line can't protect the QB.
 

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Awesome?????!!! Get a grip SC, Americanism is getting to ya :yes:
Jeeezzzz Bob, give me a break! lol

I don't want to fall out over this buddy but you know that NFL rocks....yes siree! :yes:

IMO there are only 2 sports worth watching these days;
American Football & Rugby League.....soccer doesn't even come in my top 5 list! IMO Rugby League is technically better as you get a lot more onside kicks lol but the television presentation of American Football is a mighty fine product...enabling you to grab umpteen snacks/beers without missing any of the action!

:wave: :sneakoff:
 

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but the television presentation of American Football is a mighty fine product...enabling you to grab umpteen snacks/beers without missing any of the action! :wave: :sneakoff:
Not what those Grapeviners about to diet hard want to hear... lol :wave:
 

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Silly Chip said:
Jeeezzzz Bob, give me a break! lol

I don't want to fall out over this buddy but you know that NFL rocks....yes siree! :yes:

IMO there are only 2 sports worth watching these days;
American Football & Rugby League.....soccer doesn't even come in my top 5 list! IMO Rugby League is technically better as you get a lot more onside kicks lol but the television presentation of American Football is a mighty fine product...enabling you to grab umpteen snacks/beers without missing any of the action!

:wave: :sneakoff:
TAXI FOR SILLY CHIP! :D
 

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Sorry to see that Jam Jar and California Bee didn't get the result they wanted but hope they had a great day out. The Niners did well to come back to give themselves a chance to tie but they're really going to struggle if the offensive line can't protect the QB.
It will be a long season for the Niners I'm afraid. One bright spot...I thought Ken Dorsey looked quite promising at QB. Rattay is a jorneyman at best and also very fragile. By the end of the year I expect Dorsey to have become "the man".

The defence was pretty good against Michael Vick but the offensive line is in need of serious repair. I think the most urgent need is for a passionate owner and a passionate head coach. John Yorke is not a football man and does not seem prepared to invest in the club, either emotionally or financially. Dennis Erickson has never shown that he has any fire in his belly. The whole tenor of his coaching style is passive. No drive, no imagination, no toughness.
 

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Dennis Erickson has never shown that he has any fire in his belly. The whole tenor of his coaching style is passive. No drive, no imagination, no toughness.
Surely you mean Sven? Otherwise I agree with you ;)
 
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Hi California Bee, sorry I didn't see you at the 49ers game against the Falcons, didn't have any internet access after the 10th, otherwise I would have tried to find you.

Really enjoyed my first NFL game despite the result, the atmosphere was fantastic especially at the start, never ever been in a stadium where there was so much noise, and when the Falcons lost the ball early on the noise increased even more.

Thanks to Santa Barbara Bee for sorting me out with good tickets, :wave:

Anyway still in the States right now (in Houston, Texas) so plenty of good NFL shows on, but no premiership or league 1 action :(

I thought the niners played well in the season opener and by all means they played well against the Saints, fumbles are killing us though. Tough game next against the Seahawks, if we lost that we could easily become demoralised and really bomb out.

Biggest suprise is the Chiefs at 0-2, they really need a defense.

Having a great time in the States anyway, San Francisco is by far the best place I've visited so far, didn't rate LA and Vegas was OK.
 

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Yep. Looks like a long year ahead of us. One bright spot, I really like the look of Ken Dorsey who could develop into one of the better QBs in the league.

Enjoy the reest of your trip JJ
 

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Hi California Bee, sorry I didn't see you at the 49ers game against the Falcons, didn't have any internet access after the 10th, otherwise I would have tried to find you.

Really enjoyed my first NFL game despite the result, the atmosphere was fantastic especially at the start, never ever been in a stadium where there was so much noise, and when the Falcons lost the ball early on the noise increased even more.

Thanks to Santa Barbara Bee for sorting me out with good tickets, :wave:

Anyway still in the States right now (in Houston, Texas) so plenty of good NFL shows on, but no premiership or league 1 action :(
and you haven't contacted PAUL (USA) ???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!

The biggest Bees fan in Houston!!!
 

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the atmosphere was fantastic especially at the start, never ever been in a stadium where there was so much noise,
Griffin Park, April 2002 v Reading?? :shrug:

Were you not there? :confused:
 
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At last the 49ers win a game :) and what a comeback. It seems like the 49ers only start to play in the second half. Putting things in perspective it was only the Arizona Cardinals but with our crippling injury list and lack of experienced pro's in the line-up a good effort.

The Patriots just continue to amaze, they have now won 19 straight games, I wonder who will end their run, my money's on New York Jets.
 

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Yep....2 amazing comebacks yesterday with only 5 or so minutes left on the game clock; the 49'ers whom trailed by 16 points and the Rams at Seattle whom trailed by 17 points. There is no other more exciting sport in the World than Gridiron! And I'm loving Channel Five's live Monday night game coverage :yes:
 
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Yep....2 amazing comebacks yesterday with only 5 or so minutes left on the game clock; the 49'ers whom trailed by 16 points and the Rams at Seattle whom trailed by 17 points. There is no other more exciting sport in the World than Gridiron! And I'm loving Channel Five's live Monday night game coverage :yes:

I'm taping tonight's game, have not yet had a chance to watch this year's coverage on Channel Five. Sadly don't have Sky this season as I've just moved. What team do you support Silly Chip ?
 

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Jam Jar said:
At last the 49ers win a game :) and what a comeback. .
I'm so happy for you - it's probably going to be a long hard season but I remember the 'Niners' pre-Joe Montana days when Jim Plunkett was their QB (he later went on to win a Super Bowl with the Raiders) and they lost almost every week. However, the nucleus for the championship team was already being formed (getting Ronnie Lott probably turned the team around) and it only takes the addition of one or two players to make the difference.
 
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I'm so happy for you - it's probably going to be a long hard season but I remember the 'Niners' pre-Joe Montana days when Jim Plunkett was their QB (he later went on to win a Super Bowl with the Raiders) and they lost almost every week. However, the nucleus for the championship team was already being formed (getting Ronnie Lott probably turned the team around) and it only takes the addition of one or two players to make the difference.
Thanx's for the tickets SBB. A day I'll never forget.

With regards to the game, Rattay also made 38 completions which is a SF record. Perhaps he isn't the journeyman we all made up him to be.
 

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Just watched the highlights online and that's a fantastic comeback for the 49ers. Hopefully this turns into a winning run.

I have no ****ing TV at university, the communal one is sh*te as well. Do any bars in London show the NFL coverage on Sky Sports?
 

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Do any bars in London show the NFL coverage on Sky Sports?
Pretty sure the Sports Cafe on Haymarket shows the live coverage on Sunday nights. Also maybe the Cheers bar on Regent Street...
 

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Thanx's for the tickets SBB. A day I'll never forget.

With regards to the game, Rattay also made 38 completions which is a SF record. Perhaps he isn't the journeyman we all made up him to be.
Rattay wound up with great stats. I was possed off as we left the stadium with the score 28-12 to Arizona and five minutes left. First time I've ever left before the final whistle. Bummer! :banghead: :banghead:
 
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Ouch.

Thanks for the info Joker. Gives me an excuse to go into Cheers now :D
 

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Rattay wound up with great stats. I was possed off as we left the stadium with the score 28-12 to Arizona and five minutes left. First time I've ever left before the final whistle. Bummer! :banghead: :banghead:
5 mins...that's like 40 minutes with all those stoppage thingies :confused:

That's really silly CB :nono:
 

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Yep....2 amazing comebacks yesterday with only 5 or so minutes left on the game clock; the 49'ers whom trailed by 16 points and the Rams at Seattle whom trailed by 17 points. There is no other more exciting sport in the World than Gridiron! And I'm loving Channel Five's live Monday night game coverage :yes:
That's on at 2am????? You still painting the nursery?

Exciting? lol lol lol. Only when they throw those loong pass things....the rest is a bit like syncronised chess :yawn:
 

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That's on at 2am????? You still painting the nursery?

Exciting? lol lol lol. Only when they throw those loong pass things....the rest is a bit like syncronised chess :yawn:
He taped it aswell :D , besides I'm in charge of the only TV in the house since his surround sound Phillips one blew up 4/5 months ago! lol

The part to fix it might get here from China by Xmas! rofl

And the nursery's still not finished btw. :(
 

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