New Season and Access to Matches

OP
Banana

Banana

Occasionally incorrect
Joined
7 Apr 2000
Messages
71,221
Reaction score
1,538
Location
London
I would humbly suggest that you are making it rather complicated and a venturing into a NP problem


IMHO best to
1. Find out who won't attend. In fact, (email permitting) verify who will attend
2. Rotate those around games 1...n
3. Sit families/bubbles together
4. Fit in as many as possible using the max utilisation as permitted by the Govt.
5. Achieve 4) above on the basis of i) lounges and ii) General Admission
Oh, and if the schedule means that another rotation gives an "unattractive" fixture to the same cohort. Then swap the cohorts.

Not saying it's simple. BUT IT IS NOT HARD.
 

cheshirebee

the one without a space
Joined
21 Feb 2009
Messages
1,350
Reaction score
123
Location
Macclesfield
It would be good if after the fixtures are released tomorrow we can all enter preferences for games we’d like to attend but also put down those that we may want to be excluded from. Would be complicated to execute but may help avoid people being given fixtures that they potentially can’t get to. Maybe split the games in to Categories and we get to put a preference in for each to avoid the risk of some people getting all the juicy fixtures and others getting Barnsley, Luton, Rovrum etc.
Don’t disagree with your sentiment but I think you maybe a tad optimistic in terms of the capability of our ticketing system.
 

PJ

Active member
Joined
5 Apr 2000
Messages
5,563
Reaction score
3
Location
Lowestoft
Nightmare for the ticket office to sort out.
Our 5 STs are from 5 different households, majority exiles.
Personally have no interest in watching games on a laptop, we got lucky recently when nearly all our games were televised but my idea of fun on a Sat afternoon is not getting the laptop out, I'd rather follow it with Jeff & co.

Don't want any refunds so will just pass on ifollow pass to nephew who is a member.

Roll on the season after this.

Consolation is that we're now seen as a player at this level so will likely get plenty of live sky games again :sorted:
 

Gazza Bee

Active member
Joined
27 Jan 2001
Messages
7,116
Reaction score
151
Location
City: Sunbury State: Surrey
How is it 11,000 seats?
11000 occupied seats? Im merely talking about determining which groups go to which games as I assume they will be spread over the entirety of the stadium? Or are you thinking a set capacity per stand based on takeup rate?
 
OP
Banana

Banana

Occasionally incorrect
Joined
7 Apr 2000
Messages
71,221
Reaction score
1,538
Location
London
11000 occupied seats? Im merely talking about determining which groups go to which games as I assume they will be spread over the entirety of the stadium? Or are you thinking a set capacity per stand based on takeup rate?
It will be 30% of capacity, therefore 5,200 seats.

As for the rest, see my response above.

GA needs to be treated as one group (i.e. West, North, East, and all GA in the South Stand)
 

cheshirebee

the one without a space
Joined
21 Feb 2009
Messages
1,350
Reaction score
123
Location
Macclesfield
Oh, and if the schedule means that another rotation gives an "unattractive" fixture to the same cohort. Then swap the cohorts.

Not saying it's simple. BUT IT IS NOT HARD.

A bit of a hornets nest. ‘Attractive’ and ‘unattractive’ can be dependent on personal subjectivity and circumstance. Particularly around Saturdays and midweek games. eg. Living far away and having kids in your party may mean Rotherham on a Saturday is more attractive than Watford on a Tuesday.
Maybe we can ask Gavin Williamson for an algorithm ??
 
Last edited:

Les Beeavinu

Administrator
Joined
5 Aug 2002
Messages
55,762
Reaction score
807
Location
Sandhurst
For me, it doesn't matter if it's Wycombe, Watford or Wednesday. I just want to see my team in the new stadium.
Indeed. Just the thought of a live match is exciting, couldn't give a sh*t who the opposition is.
 

Twickenhamben

Member
Joined
3 Feb 2011
Messages
368
Reaction score
58
I’m guessing they will want us to go to half the games but pay the full season ticket.... I paid about £400 for mine and my son (family enclosure). Rather than give me £200 back for the games we can’t attend perhaps they could sell us next seasons (2021/22) for £300 not £400 and give us a £50 voucher to spend in the club shop?
 

Gazza Bee

Active member
Joined
27 Jan 2001
Messages
7,116
Reaction score
151
Location
City: Sunbury State: Surrey
It will be 30% of capacity, therefore 5,200 seats.

As for the rest, see my response above.

GA needs to be treated as one group (i.e. West, North, East, and all GA in the South Stand)
Sorry 11k occupied as in paid for not physically occupied. I think we are coming at it from the same angle despite my lack of clarity lol
 

Griffingreen

Royal Oak Exile
Joined
14 Nov 2001
Messages
2,645
Reaction score
69
Location
Hampton
And who gets to sit in their halfway line seat and who gets displaced from theirs to the corner?
 

IslandBee

Now Off-Island Bee
Joined
29 Sep 2009
Messages
6,500
Reaction score
124
Location
New Milton, Hants
I hope members also get access to Ifollow!
 

Mr Tree

Brentford's premier GIF creator
Joined
28 Apr 2000
Messages
34,635
Reaction score
180
Location
Czech Republic
I hope members also get access to Ifollow!
i would assume so, they did before, right? it was only games on sky that members couldn't get...
 

Gazza Bee

Active member
Joined
27 Jan 2001
Messages
7,116
Reaction score
151
Location
City: Sunbury State: Surrey
I suspect you'll be given a seat, including in the away end.
Yep beggers cant be choosers - be thankful of having the opportunity to go to games rather than worrying about which seat it is. There will be specific seats chosen up to available capacity and those will be allocated to people as seen fit - simples.
 

Houghton Bee

Well-known member
Joined
10 Jul 2001
Messages
13,074
Reaction score
160
Location
Houghton Regis
there are no members for 20-21, so far.
 

hobbsy

Optimist
Joined
23 Apr 2005
Messages
16,158
Reaction score
370
Location
KT3 New Malden
i would assume so, they did before, right? it was only games on sky that members couldn't get...
Only if they had a match ticket, otherwise it was audio only
 

jlove

Well-known member
Joined
17 Dec 2002
Messages
32,901
Reaction score
490
Location
Vaison-la-Romaine
Having scanned Loyal on FB, there does appear to be quite a number who have proposed a simple and straightforward method for allocation...

ME FIRST
 

Gazza Bee

Active member
Joined
27 Jan 2001
Messages
7,116
Reaction score
151
Location
City: Sunbury State: Surrey
Having scanned Loyal on FB, there does appear to be quite a number who have proposed a simple and straightforward method for allocation...

ME FIRST
Christ that is the last place I'd be looking for intelligent suggestions lol
 

Sultan

Active member
Joined
19 Mar 2001
Messages
7,566
Reaction score
84
Location
Staines
every game i can't go to I will want a refund.
 

Oceanbee

Active member
Joined
7 Sep 2013
Messages
1,872
Reaction score
115
Life used to be fairly simple once upon a time!

Now there’s so many variations on a theme.

It’s nearly a year in October since I reserved my seats in LR. However, have by now got completely confused as to how I agreed to pay, and what I did pay in reserving them.

I sent an email to the reservations centre a while back about this, but no reply so will have to chase them up. Presumably no season tickets have been sent out yet?

There are so many things you have to get a handle on now. Last January I booked a holiday for about 4 months time. Paid a deposit, and now they are asking for a considerable balance to be paid.
However, the company cannot guarantee the holiday will happen, and the countries involved are in the government’s "do not travel" list.

So getting my head around when, how, and if I can go to the new stadium is just another thing added to the "totally confusing" list!

Anyone else feel the same?
 

daddybee

Active member
Joined
5 Dec 2002
Messages
2,634
Reaction score
5
Location
Loughton
Life used to be fairly simple once upon a time!

Now there’s so many variations on a theme.

It’s nearly a year in October since I reserved my seats in LR. However, have by now got completely confused as to how I agreed to pay, and what I did pay in reserving them.

I sent an email to the reservations centre a while back about this, but no reply so will have to chase them up. Presumably no season tickets have been sent out yet?

There are so many things you have to get a handle on now. Last January I booked a holiday for about 4 months time. Paid a deposit, and now they are asking for a considerable balance to be paid.
However, the company cannot guarantee the holiday will happen, and the countries involved are in the government’s "do not travel" list.

So getting my head around when, how, and if I can go to the new stadium is just another thing added to the "totally confusing" list!

Anyone else feel the same?
Bit confused as to how you managed to book your seats last October!
 

Mr Tree

Brentford's premier GIF creator
Joined
28 Apr 2000
Messages
34,635
Reaction score
180
Location
Czech Republic
Only if they had a match ticket, otherwise it was audio only
Really?! Blimey. That seems.... counter-productive. Why not make the game available to those who want to watch it - what would be the drawback?
 

hobbsy

Optimist
Joined
23 Apr 2005
Messages
16,158
Reaction score
370
Location
KT3 New Malden
Really?! Blimey. That seems.... counter-productive. Why not make the game available to those who want to watch it - what would be the drawback?
All to do with rights I believe.
 

mhead bee

Well-known member
Joined
7 Apr 2000
Messages
24,496
Reaction score
600
Location
Maidenhead
I'd hope there is sufficient data to determine groups from the reservation centre so each group can go to the same games - might be wishful thinking however...
I would think this is an absolute certainty, no way is my son going on his own.
 

mhead bee

Well-known member
Joined
7 Apr 2000
Messages
24,496
Reaction score
600
Location
Maidenhead
Nightmare for the ticket office to sort out.
Our 5 STs are from 5 different households, majority exiles.
Personally have no interest in watching games on a laptop, we got lucky recently when nearly all our games were televised but my idea of fun on a Sat afternoon is not getting the laptop out, I'd rather follow it with Jeff & co.

Don't want any refunds so will just pass on ifollow pass to nephew who is a member.

Roll on the season after this.

Consolation is that we're now seen as a player at this level so will likely get plenty of live sky games again :sorted:
If there is the slightest chance of watching any Brentford game I will. Even if I have to watch it through the bottom of a glass and it was freezing every few seconds I would still watch it.

Would rather be there but if I am not I will watch every game I can any which way I can.

Each to his own.
 

BuzzBeeSi

Active member
Joined
16 Dec 2001
Messages
1,844
Reaction score
10
Location
London SW20
There's more chance of us winning a Playoff Final than BFC getting this one right. Good luck to them!
 

Delbee

Active member
Joined
14 Nov 2006
Messages
7,923
Reaction score
155
Location
West Middlesex
There's more chance of us winning a Playoff Final than BFC getting this one right. Good luck to them!
It’s going to be difficult but let’s give them a chance . It’s not the clubs fault they are following guide lines set out
 

mhead bee

Well-known member
Joined
7 Apr 2000
Messages
24,496
Reaction score
600
Location
Maidenhead
'Cos how can he possibly be a 'real' supporter unless he can afford a season ticket, right !!!
He doesn’t mention how many games he does go to though. If he hasn’t been for years then not going for the next 5-10 games isn’t going to be an issue for him.

If he goes to lots of games then he probably should be a season ticket holder as it would be cheaper.

If he can’t afford to go to games then he wouldn’t be going anyway.

It is tough but do the club exclude people who have scraped together thousands of pounds to buy a ticket and give priority to people who say they love the club but can’t afford to watch them.

Only 5k people can go, there has to be a priority for ST holders doesn’t there?
 

'Ayes B

Active member
Joined
29 Dec 2000
Messages
6,234
Reaction score
56
Location
Hayes, MIDDLESEX
Could always beem the games back to Griffin Park
 

Brian Mason

Member
Joined
20 Apr 2000
Messages
955
Reaction score
0
Location
Surbiton,Surrey
I suppose the 'freebies' could be free access to streaming the away games fro Season ticket holders as we got at the end of the 2019/20 season.

There is no easy way for the club to deal with this - we have 11,000 season ticket holders and will only be allowed just under half of those to each game.
 
Joined
11 Jun 2005
Messages
19,005
Reaction score
60
Location
Berkshire
Everyone thinks they should have access to games regardless if they are a ST holder, member, been to one game in 10 years....you are right but ST holders only is correct IMHO
on points ? or had a ST for last 5 years?
 

Darren J

Active member
Joined
24 Aug 2015
Messages
1,386
Reaction score
10
If you break down what we've actually been dealt this year we have.

11 games
1 in September we won't be able to go to
4 evening KOs in Oct-Dec which we know aren't traditionally as well attended
2 games vs Preston 3rd Oct and QPR. Potentially first home game with fans and local derby both of which people won't want to miss even if they're moved
4 other Saturday 3pm's which could easily be pulled for Sky evening/Sat 12:30 KOs

My personal selfish hope is that there is something in place that would get me access to 1st game in ground and QPR match. My unselfish hope is that there is a system in place to make sure seats get filled. Would hate to discover from someone ITK on here that there were 1000 no shows for an evening game for example.
 
Last edited:

Bixer

Active member
Joined
29 Sep 2014
Messages
2,040
Reaction score
48
Location
Isleworth
Don’t think people need to be too jealous of those that get to go to games that they don’t.

I know we primarily all want to see the new ground, but 5,000 in a 17,000 capacity stadium is going to have the atmosphere of a Carabao Cup game. Possibly worse, as chances are there’s going to be an even smaller percentage of fans that actually chant etc.

I’m craving live football like everyone else, but I don’t think it’s quite going to be the exclusive party that many seem to think it is. I’d temper your expectations as I imagine most games will feel a smidge underwhelming at first.
 

jlove

Well-known member
Joined
17 Dec 2002
Messages
32,901
Reaction score
490
Location
Vaison-la-Romaine
on points ? or had a ST for last 5 years?
Back to the endless discussion on 'loyalty'. The club has to draw a line somewhere and it's not going to please everyone.

There's always a few who say that they turn up and pay cash and, therefore, there is no record of them ever attending but they went to every game, home and away, since Barrow in the Cup. Quite frankly, that's been impossible in the last couple of seasons and the writing's been on the wall for that time, at least. A few will miss out but life is going to be tough until we get to universal vaccine and, even then, if we're on the trajectory we all hope for, getting a ticket is still going to be a real challenge unless you're already in the mix.
 

Doovster

Well-known member
Joined
2 Oct 2007
Messages
10,097
Reaction score
288
Location
Flackwell Heath, The Shire
Back to the endless discussion on 'loyalty'. The club has to draw a line somewhere and it's not going to please everyone.

There's always a few who say that they turn up and pay cash and, therefore, there is no record of them ever attending but they went to every game, home and away, since Barrow in the Cup. Quite frankly, that's been impossible in the last couple of seasons and the writing's been on the wall for that time, at least. A few will miss out but life is going to be tough until we get to universal vaccine and, even then, if we're on the trajectory we all hope for, getting a ticket is still going to be a real challenge unless you're already in the mix.
Agree. With 11,000 ST holders how many 'die hards' are now likely not to have an ST? I know loads of 'die hards' and they are all ST holders.

I've got little sympathy for anyone who attends every game and isn't an ST holder. The direction of travel the club has been heading means it's a big risk not to buy an ST, particularly if you genuinely attend every game.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top Bottom