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Good to see Sky being pragmatic and helpful, rather than sticking to their contractual rights. But I bet they've extracted a fee for doing so.
 

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So £10 per match fee, I assume ST holders get this streaming service for free. I guess this cost will be used in some way to offset against any refund of ST holders.
 

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So £10 per match fee, I assume ST holders get this streaming service for free. I guess this cost will be used in some way to offset against any refund of ST holders.
No thanks!! lol

Prefer a refund.
 

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My guess is the club will offer an all or nothing choice.
Keep the ST and attend when possible and TV when not...or
Get a refund / deferral on all matches but forego option to attend any.
 

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No thanks!! lol

Prefer a refund.
Also, if (as I hope), we feature regularly on Sky Sports Brentford, that diminishes the value.

Ultimately people will act based on their personal finances. I'm fortunate that I'm in a position where I don't need a refund and will do what I can to financially support the club in the best way possible, but I totally appreciate many are not in such a position.
 

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My guess is the club will offer an all or nothing choice.
Keep the ST and attend when possible and TV when not...or
Get a refund / deferral on all matches but forego option to attend any.
Refund risky if you have a good seat and someone else would like to take the attend /TV option
 

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Rotation is the best case scenario I guess.
I just hope the junior s/t get lumped in with their parents and get weekend fixtures as opposed to midweek.
I hate the idea of "you can do this game, but not that one"
, but I guess at the moment I will take anything.
 

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... it's only right that ST holders will be looked after before members who have currently not put any money into the club for the forthcoming season.
I agree this is the only sensible/workable option. However, the idea that you cannot be a 'die-hard' without being a season-ticket holder is nonsense. There are lots of Bees fans out there who have been committed to the club for years and still are but who are not able for all sorts of reasons (geography, family, work commitments) to attend games so regularly to justify the purchase of a season-ticket.

As one of these individuals, all I ask is that some consideration is given to ensuring (paid for) IFollow access or similar while attendances are restricted.
 
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I agree this is the only sensible/workable option. However, the idea that you cannot be a 'die-hard' without being a season-ticket holder is nonsense. There are lots of Bees fans out there who have been committed to the club for years and still are but who are not able for all sorts of reasons (geography, family, work commitments) to attend games so regularly to justify the purchase of a season-ticket.

As one of these individuals, all I ask is that some consideration is given to ensuring (paid for) IFollow access or similar while attendances are restricted.
Reading the Sky Sports "agreement" it would appear that everyone will be able to purchase live streaming for all matches. So anyone that cannot physically attend will have the ability to watch matches online.
 

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Reading the Sky Sports "agreement" it would appear that everyone will be able to purchase live streaming for all matches. So anyone that cannot physically attend will have the ability to watch matches online.
Yep, just read that - very good news! :)
 

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I agree this is the only sensible/workable option. However, the idea that you cannot be a 'die-hard' without being a season-ticket holder is nonsense. There are lots of Bees fans out there who have been committed to the club for years and still are but who are not able for all sorts of reasons (geography, family, work commitments) to attend games so regularly to justify the purchase of a season-ticket.

As one of these individuals, all I ask is that some consideration is given to ensuring (paid for) IFollow access or similar while attendances are restricted.
That's a very fair comment IB.

Thankfully you will have access to the streaming service agreed which is good news for you :sorted:
 

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Maybe the Football Club need to replicate the friends and Family option to create a social bubble option... Where tickets are given to groups.

Not every parent lives with child.
Adult siblings may need to attend together. Some fans probably attend with unofficial carers etc. Some fans will rely on their mate to drive (some distance).
 

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I wonder whether the club will ensure the 1000 Premium seat holders can go to every game, given the money they are spending? If it’s the case it would be a very unpopular decision I suspect; however the club have made no secret that they need the high spending season ticket holders.
 

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I wonder whether the club will ensure the 1000 Premium seat holders can go to every game, given the money they are spending? If it’s the case it would be a very unpopular decision I suspect; however the club have made no secret that they need the high spending season ticket holders.
We do not envisage the reduced capacity scenario enabling all Premium Seat Holders access to the stadium for every game, therefore plans are being developed on the fairest way to admit you on a rotation basis. Clearly the level of rotation will depend on the reduced capacity limits imposed on the Club.
 
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I wonder whether the club will ensure the 1000 Premium seat holders can go to every game, given the money they are spending? If it’s the case it would be a very unpopular decision I suspect; however the club have made no secret that they need the high spending season ticket holders.
Going to be impossible to accommodate them all.

Lounge space will be suitably reduced in each lounge. Further I suspect that the South Stand is going to have a lower capacity (in percentage terms) than other areas due to size of circulations areas.
 

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Maybe the Football Club need to replicate the friends and Family option to create a social bubble option... Where tickets are given to groups.

Not every parent lives with child.
Adult siblings may need to attend together. Some fans probably attend with unofficial carers etc. Some fans will rely on their mate to drive (some distance).
Sheffield Wednesday are doing a 4 person 'bubble' for their home games similar to what you are proposing so lets see what happens.
 

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My guess is the club will offer an all or nothing choice.
Keep the ST and attend when possible and TV when not...or
Get a refund / deferral on all matches but forego option to attend any.
This would not be right and could easily be challenged. I have paid £690 (upfront) to attend 23 league games. I appreciate the reduced capacities is not the clubs fault ( or mine either). If I can only attend 8 or 12 games, a refund or credit for next season is more than reasonable. I'm not interested in I-follow and already have sky sports.
 

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This would not be right and could easily be challenged. I have paid £690 (upfront) to attend 23 league games. I appreciate the reduced capacities is not the clubs fault ( or mine either). If I can only attend 8 or 12 games, a refund or credit for next season is more than reasonable. I'm not interested in I-follow and already have sky sports.
Totally agree, like you I've paid £690.00 X 2 up front, and have no interest in ifollow.
 

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Going to be impossible to accommodate them all.

Lounge space will be suitably reduced in each lounge. Further I suspect that the South Stand is going to have a lower capacity (in percentage terms) than other areas due to size of circulations areas.
Really? I thought the concourse area was bigger in the south than the north
 

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Really? I thought the concourse area was bigger in the south than the north
IIRC they both have a similar number of exits, the south has multiple levels and stairs with greater occupation.
 

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I Follow costs £10 per match to anyone so 23 home games will be £230. To offer it for free to a ST holder like me who paid £400 for ST would mean I would be gifting club £170. Add to that my wife has a ST {and we do not need another I Follow) would mean we would lose £340 if both agreed to the option which is nearly the price of a ST. This is a poor deal especially as it only includes home games unlike the offer we had last season. Even with away games added in I Follow would cost £460 and our tickets totalled £800 so to be expected to just let the club have money which in these times are needed by most is madness. I expect a credit at least of the cost per game we have paid to be credited against a ticket for next season. I appreciate the club do not want to lose income but cannot expect to just take peoples money and expect them to watch tv and claim it to be what the fans want.
 
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wouldnt it be nice if someone sensible somewhere said lets just open ALL the ground and let everyone in who wants to go.......now that would be nice and much more sensible than this half cocked load of crap that will just cause numerous problems and resenment with who goes and who cant go,,,,,,,,all those that want to take the risk and go to a game whatever is happening in the world please raise your hand ;) thanks those that dont can watch on ifollow.....see, its that easy lol
 

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Perhaps one area of each stadium could be designated The Infection Section for fans of a common persuasion?
 

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As an old bugger I fall in to the vulnerable category. My journey to LR involves a 3 1/2 train/underground/bus journey each way.

I'm dying to see the Bees and sit in my ST seat but I am not willing to risk actually dying to achieve this.

I'm sure that because of the circumstances other ST are of a similar mind.

If BFC can find out who will not be attending it means that more ST holders who want to attend will be able to. Hope BFC start reaching out to ST holders pretty soon.
 

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I dont want a refund regardless of anything. Just some simplicity and clarity. I was muddled when I got my ticket in January which was down to me noone else and even more bloody muddled now. It doesnt take much.
 

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I dont want a refund regardless of anything. Just some simplicity and clarity. I was muddled when I got my ticket in January which was down to me noone else and even more bloody muddled now. It doesnt take much.
Nothing has been formally announced yet, it is all conjecture based on what is the public domain and what other clubs have done. Take a step back and wait.
 

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As an old bugger I fall in to the vulnerable category. My journey to LR involves a 3 1/2 train/underground/bus journey each way.

I'm dying to see the Bees and sit in my ST seat but I am not willing to risk actually dying to achieve this.

I'm sure that because of the circumstances other ST are of a similar mind.

If BFC can find out who will not be attending it means that more ST holders who want to attend will be able to. Hope BFC start reaching out to ST holders pretty soon.
Maybe a ticket exchange service for non ST holders would help everyone out until it is safe for you to travel.
 

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I Follow costs £10 per match to anyone so 23 home games will be £230. To offer it for free to a ST holder like me who paid £400 for ST would mean I would be gifting club £170. Add to that my wife has a ST {and we do not need another I Follow) would mean we would lose £340 if both agreed to the option which is nearly the price of a ST. This is a poor deal especially as it only includes home games unlike the offer we had last season. Even with away games added in I Follow would cost £460 and our tickets totalled £800 so to be expected to just let the club have money which in these times are needed by most is madness. I expect a credit at least of the cost per game we have paid to be credited against a ticket for next season. I appreciate the club do not want to lose income but cannot expect to just take peoples money and expect them to watch tv and claim it to be what the fans want.
No, you get to go to half the home games as well so your gift is far less than that,
 

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I Follow costs £10 per match to anyone so 23 home games will be £230. To offer it for free to a ST holder like me who paid £400 for ST would mean I would be gifting club £170. Add to that my wife has a ST {and we do not need another I Follow) would mean we would lose £340 if both agreed to the option which is nearly the price of a ST. This is a poor deal especially as it only includes home games unlike the offer we had last season. Even with away games added in I Follow would cost £460 and our tickets totalled £800 so to be expected to just let the club have money which in these times are needed by most is madness. I expect a credit at least of the cost per game we have paid to be credited against a ticket for next season. I appreciate the club do not want to lose income but cannot expect to just take peoples money and expect them to watch tv and claim it to be what the fans want.
£10 a match is pretty extortionate too, i used to log in vis a VPN and get it for £5 which is about right
 

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As an old bugger I fall in to the vulnerable category. My journey to LR involves a 3 1/2 train/underground/bus journey each way.

I'm dying to see the Bees and sit in my ST seat but I am not willing to risk actually dying to achieve this.

I'm sure that because of the circumstances other ST are of a similar mind.

If BFC can find out who will not be attending it means that more ST holders who want to attend will be able to. Hope BFC start reaching out to ST holders pretty soon.
The travelling issue will be a big one for many.
 

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Going to be impossible to accommodate them all.

Lounge space will be suitably reduced in each lounge. Further I suspect that the South Stand is going to have a lower capacity (in percentage terms) than other areas due to size of circulations areas.
Just give the Premium STH’s the next best available seats and similar for all until the permitted attendance is reached. For purely financial reasons the club will have to look after the high priced STH’s as a priority because they’ve invested the most money and consequently would be wanting more in terms of a refund.
Where’s that irony emoji?
 

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wouldnt it be nice if someone sensible somewhere said lets just open ALL the ground and let everyone in who wants to go.......now that would be nice and much more sensible than this half cocked load of crap that will just cause numerous problems and resenment with who goes and who cant go,,,,,,,,all those that want to take the risk and go to a game whatever is happening in the world please raise your hand ;) thanks those that dont can watch on ifollow.....see, its that easy lol
What he said!
 

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wouldnt it be nice if someone sensible somewhere said lets just open ALL the ground and let everyone in who wants to go.......now that would be nice and much more sensible than this half cocked load of crap that will just cause numerous problems and resenment with who goes and who cant go,,,,,,,,all those that want to take the risk and go to a game whatever is happening in the world please raise your hand ;) thanks those that dont can watch on ifollow.....see, its that easy lol
We could just do that with everything and not just football and bugger the virus, the economy, the NHS and the vulnerable.
 

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wouldnt it be nice if someone sensible somewhere said lets just open ALL the ground and let everyone in who wants to go.......now that would be nice and much more sensible than this half cocked load of crap that will just cause numerous problems and resenment with who goes and who cant go,,,,,,,,all those that want to take the risk and go to a game whatever is happening in the world please raise your hand ;) thanks those that dont can watch on ifollow.....see, its that easy lol
Not a bad idea it’s a decision most sensible people do every day due to my age not my health condition I would choose to stay away untill a creditable medic tells me otherwise.
 

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Charlton and Cambridge

How Random is that ??

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-september-test-events-for-fans-at-stadiums

The league, together with the department for digital, culture, media and sport (DCMS) and SGSA has been working with Charlton and Cambridge to devise protocols for a phased return of fans. Matches were played behind closed doors when the Championship season restarted in June but Oliver Dowden, the culture secretary, hopes fans can return with social distancing measures in place in October.


Charlton’s League One match at home to Doncaster on 19 September has been targeted as a test event but it is likely other games could be used as test events before then. Charlton’s stadium has a capacity of 27,111 and it is hoped between 6,000-8,500 supporters could attend matches in October.
 

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Charlton isn't even a functional club!
Interestingly though their Fan's group attends the SAG. A request that was dismissed very strongly by Jon Varney when BIAS approached him about it.
 
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Interestingly though their Fan's group attends the SAG. A request that was dismissed very strongly by Jon Varney when BIAS approached him about it.
Maybe that's why they were selected then? :shrug:
 

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wouldnt it be nice if someone sensible somewhere said lets just open ALL the ground and let everyone in who wants to go.......now that would be nice and much more sensible than this half cocked load of crap that will just cause numerous problems and resenment with who goes and who cant go,,,,,,,,all those that want to take the risk and go to a game whatever is happening in the world please raise your hand ;) thanks those that dont can watch on ifollow.....see, its that easy lol
I guess you mean snowflakes on iFollow and the frontline going toe to toe with the flue bug at the stadium? I suppose the atmosphere could even be better?
 

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I wonder what benefits Brentford adult membership provides next season?

I already have IFollow, and strongly doubt I can come to Lionel Road anytime soon so the usual £5 off from match tickets is not really helping.
 

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Apologies if this has already been said, but I am not going to trawl through a number of pages.

Could the club not email every season ticket holder with match day attendance preferences.

For example with myself I would state every game possible.
For my 2 children I would put Saturday fixtures only(apart from school holidays)
For the missus Saturday only (apart from school holidays).
Obviously each email could have the fixture list attached with a yes to this game no to that one kind of thing.
It gives the club an idea on who can /wants to attend what games.
If I ask for 23 and I get 16 then a refund on 7.
If the children get to say 11 weekend games then a refund on just the weekend games I put them down for which could be maybe 5.
Same for the missus.
No refunds on games we didn't ask to see.
Just an idea.
We are a family of 4 so it's important that the juniors are selected with their parents /guardians.
Requesting weekend fixtures for a junior would free up seats for mid week fixtures too.

In the event of course that we can attend at some point of course.
 
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Apologies if this has already been said, but I am not going to trawl through a number of pages.

Could the club not email every season ticket holder with match day attendance preferences.

For example with myself I would state every game possible.
For my 2 children I would put Saturday fixtures only(apart from school holidays)
For the missus Saturday only (apart from school holidays).
Obviously each email could have the fixture list attached with a yes to this game no to that one kind of thing.
It gives the club an idea on who can /wants to attend what games.
If I ask for 23 and I get 16 then a refund on 7.
If the children get to say 11 weekend games then a refund on just the weekend games I put them down for which could be maybe 5.
Same for the missus.
No refunds on games we didn't ask to see.
Just an idea.
We are a family of 4 so it's important that the juniors are selected with their parents /guardians.
Requesting weekend fixtures for a junior would free up seats for mid week fixtures too.

In the event of course that we can attend at some point of course.
No idea if it has been ask as I am not going to trawl though your post which has far too many words for me to bother with
 

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