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Has the club released details of how much compensation they had to pay out as a result of refunds on last season’s STs/individual match tickets at all?
If not, are we expecting something? @Banana @hobbsy
 

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Please tear out voucher E from your current ST, report to the ticket office (whereabouts currently unknown) and ask for Winnie.

All will be well.
 

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OK thanks.
Guess it will become apparent when 2019/20 accounts are published?
Possibly could be deduced by analysing but I wouldn't expect it to be explicitly listed. Likely to be a Covid costs line.
 

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Please tear out voucher E from your current ST, report to the ticket office (whereabouts currently unknown) and ask for Winnie.

All will be well.
I always admired the optimism of how many letter vouchers we'd get each season. Inevitably we'd end up using one for a creme egg and not a lot else.
 

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I always admired the optimism of how many letter vouchers we'd get each season. Inevitably we'd end up using one for a creme egg and not a lot else.
lol
Still got all mine!!!
Hoping they’ll come into play when the reduced LR ticketing process starts........
Vouchers A-E from the 80/81 season must surely count for something........
 

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Shouldn't we be expecting a formal announcement from the club over the next day or two on what the deal is for ST holders? Season starting within the week n all?
 

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Shouldn't we be expecting a formal announcement from the club over the next day or two on what the deal is for ST holders? Season starting within the week n all?
One would certainly think so, at least before early the following week as there's the first home game on the 19th.
 

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Following BIAS' discussion with the club on Wednesday, we are having another Monday week. So any announcement will be after that (hopefully!)
 

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Monday week? After the season has begun and obviously only 5 days before our first home game? I appreciate everything you do I honestly do, but this is quite poor from the clubs part, that means that we will probably have little communication from the club about this leading up to our first home game, I know difficult decisions have to be made and I know not everyone will be happy, including me, but to not let us know about out ST options this late is amazingly poor. I’m sorry to be so negative but I just want to know the score so I can plan my life, is that too much to ask?
 
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Monday week? After the season has begun and obviously only 5 days before our first home game? I appreciate everything you do I honestly do, but this is quite poor from the clubs part, that means that we will probably have little communication from the club about this leading up to our first home game, I know difficult decisions have to be made and I know not everyone will be happy, including me, but to not let us know about out ST options this late is amazingly poor. I’m sorry to be so negative but I just want to know the score so I can plan my life, is that too much to ask?
Agreed. But it's not BIAS's fault.
 

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Monday week? After the season has begun and obviously only 5 days before our first home game? I appreciate everything you do I honestly do, but this is quite poor from the clubs part, that means that we will probably have little communication from the club about this leading up to our first home game, I know difficult decisions have to be made and I know not everyone will be happy, including me, but to not let us know about out ST options this late is amazingly poor. I’m sorry to be so negative but I just want to know the score so I can plan my life, is that too much to ask?
Yeah, my Mrs won't let me out the house on my own of a weekend without 6 days notice MINIMUM!
 

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Monday week?
That's the latest possible, IHMO. The fixtures are known (subject to TV) and actual attendance is not in the control of the club. The unknowns are only iFollow and ticket credit options. I'm sure it's a complex thing to work out and administer and I'm equally sure lots of STH's will be unhappy, so I'm prepared to wait until Tuesday morning hoping for a reasonable and balanced outcome, with BIAS input.
 

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Monday week? After the season has begun and obviously only 5 days before our first home game? I appreciate everything you do I honestly do, but this is quite poor from the clubs part, that means that we will probably have little communication from the club about this leading up to our first home game, I know difficult decisions have to be made and I know not everyone will be happy, including me, but to not let us know about out ST options this late is amazingly poor. I’m sorry to be so negative but I just want to know the score so I can plan my life, is that too much to ask?
It does seem odd, I've almost forgotten that I've purchased a season ticket such has been the lack of communication and absence of an actual season ticket/card/wallet etc dropping through the door. I think the last update was via email on the 20th Aug.

The club has obviously had its hands full over the last few months and will no doubt get round to sorting something but with the season starting in less than a week and the first home game in less than two weeks they could probably do with issuing some sort of update - even if it's just a holding one. I suspect the vast majority will appreciate the situation and be supportive but the comms around it could really use an injection.
 

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It does seem odd, I've almost forgotten that I've purchased a season ticket such has been the lack of communication and absence of an actual season ticket/card/wallet etc dropping through the door. I think the last update was via email on the 20th Aug.

The club has obviously had its hands full over the last few months and will no doubt get round to sorting something but with the season starting in less than a week and the first home game in less than two weeks they could probably do with issuing some sort of update - even if it's just a holding one. I suspect the vast majority will appreciate the situation and be supportive but the comms around it could really use an injection.
I had a similar feeling! From the stadium tour video it sounded like the cards are being sent out this week.

It would have been nice to have had an early, clear communication of the arrangements during the period before full opening. But beware what you wish for- Cardiff did a very early and very clear statement. I’d prefer one that took more time and showed more care for fans!
 

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Indeed, I can only assume it is a good thing that the club are taking further time to consider things following our feedback.
 

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I had a similar feeling! From the stadium tour video it sounded like the cards are being sent out this week.

It would have been nice to have had an early, clear communication of the arrangements during the period before full opening. But beware what you wish for- Cardiff did a very early and very clear statement. I’d prefer one that took more time and showed more care for fans!
Absolutely, and it will be impossible to please everyone - I just think it would be wise to keep the comms 'ticking-over' as silence doesn't help anyone.

Now that we've started playing matches at LR I think it's even more important as "lots" of people are now getting to experience the new ground (primarily media personnel) which we're all seeing on TV, social media etc.
 

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I had a similar feeling! From the stadium tour video it sounded like the cards are being sent out this week.

It would have been nice to have had an early, clear communication of the arrangements during the period before full opening. But beware what you wish for- Cardiff did a very early and very clear statement. I’d prefer one that took more time and showed more care for fans!
Just had a read of the Cardiff statement. Pure savagery :grey:.

Whilst we appreciate that not all supporters may wish (or be able to make use of) streaming services, there will be no price reduction or cash refund to a season ticket available in the event a fixture must be played behind closed doors.
 
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Just had a read of the Cardiff statement. Pure savagery :grey:.

Whilst we appreciate that not all supporters may wish (or be able to make use of) streaming services, there will be no price reduction or cash refund to a season ticket available in the event a fixture must be played behind closed doors.
This has already been mentioned, and pointed out to be in violation of Consumer Law.
 

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This has already been mentioned, and pointed out to be in violation of Consumer Law.
Although, that statement appears to be attached to Cardiff opening up their season ticket sales for 2020/21 so people buying one knowing the terms? I'm not sure if that makes a difference to the relevant Consumer Law.
 

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Although, that statement appears to be attached to Cardiff opening up their season ticket sales for 2020/21 so people buying one knowing the terms? I'm not sure if that makes a difference to the relevant Consumer Law.
Unfair Contract Terms Act instead?
 

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Was under the impression that all games would be BCD until at least October at the earliest.
Has that changed?
That's correct, our discussions are around both access to ifollow, refunds etc during BCD plus also physical access if/when allowed.
 

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Monday week? After the season has begun and obviously only 5 days before our first home game? I appreciate everything you do I honestly do, but this is quite poor from the clubs part, that means that we will probably have little communication from the club about this leading up to our first home game, I know difficult decisions have to be made and I know not everyone will be happy, including me, but to not let us know about out ST options this late is amazingly poor. I’m sorry to be so negative but I just want to know the score so I can plan my life, is that too much to ask?
Surely you can plan you life around the fact we can't attend games and you will be able to stream the home ones.

What more info do you need than that for now?
 

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Surely you can plan you life around the fact we can't attend games and you will be able to stream the home ones.

What more info do you need than that for now?
True in some respects, but everyone’s circumstances are different. Hobbsy said BIAS were in discussion over lots of different things to do with this, which is fantastic. Personally though I booked in a group of 12 a mix of adults and kids. Not all of my group are on the GPG so I do try and relay information that I pick up from here. But there is one particular person in our group who is massively struggling, financially and mentally, and he needs some clarity on his options.
 
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Latest from the DCMS on football fans:

The goal is for fans to return to stadiums from 1st October.

Test events with fans will continue to take place before that date.

Applications have been submitted for more pilot events. At present no further pilots have been signed off.
 

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Stoke are offering a split 11-game season ticket while deferring this season’s tickets until next. All the games you don’t get to will be available via ifollow for £50 for the lot

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-season-ticket-fans-4494084
That seems to be a very sensible & fair scheme. I wonder if Stoke had already marketed/sold their STs for this season & are refunding half or had they held off selling them up to now?
 

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That seems to be a very sensible & fair scheme. I wonder if Stoke had already marketed/sold their STs for this season & are refunding half or had they held off selling them up to now?
"while season ticket holders from 2019/20 will have their seat reserved for 2021/22 when hopefully normality has returned."
Give the impression that they had held off selling them but i haven't checked.
An interesting idea. I wonder if there is any mechanism to stop people buying both "halves" via another supporter - perhaps they have more than enough existing season ticket holders to mean there will be no new sales. You could still collude with your mate next door who is shielding, to borrow his unwanted half until further notice I suppose.
 

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"while season ticket holders from 2019/20 will have their seat reserved for 2021/22 when hopefully normality has returned."
Give the impression that they had held off selling them but i haven't checked.
An interesting idea. I wonder if there is any mechanism to stop people buying both "halves" via another supporter - perhaps they have more than enough existing season ticket holders to mean there will be no new sales. You could still collude with your mate next door who is shielding, to borrow his unwanted half until further notice I suppose.
You could do exactly the same under a rota system though.

In any case, given the Govt has always said that readmitting fans to stadiums was subject to the wider prevailing health situation I expect we’re looking at another delay.
 

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You could do exactly the same under a rota system though.

In any case, given the Govt has always said that readmitting fans to stadiums was subject to the wider prevailing health situation I expect we’re looking at another delay.
I think you might be right. I be surprised if we allowed in before Xmas.
 

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Reducing gatherings down to 6 as of Monday. I don't understand why we can't create a bubble of six and you will get loads more people into the grounds, in fact as of last week bubbles of up to 30. What is the difference between meeting 6 people in the pub, your back garden, a restaurant and a football ground.

In junior football they have come out with the biggest load of gibberish yet, you don't have to isolate, wear gloves of masks during training or during the warm up and that includes throwing the ball to each other and heading it and if the ball goes of the pitch you can pick it up and throw it back. However if the coach has to enter the field of play he has to put on a mask, gloves and a full gown. How ridiculous is that. Who is thinking this idiocy through, why can you interact with a player off the pitch but as soon as he steps three inches onto it you have to dress up like a dr.

To me it once again shows a total lack of common sense and intelligent thought by our leaders who just randomly make illogical stuff up that is incredibly inconsistent. No wonder everyone is ignoring them.

I went to a pub on Saturday, the staff bring the glasses over on a tray and they can't touch them so we have to load them onto the table. After we have handled them for 20 minutes and got our saliva all over them they are allowed to collect them with their hands. Who sat in a room and wrote this stuff down, why don't we have to put them back on the tray.
 

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I agree that there is very little logic in any of it any more other than it being driven by money and keeping schools open.

My whole department has been “encouraged/invited” into the office on Friday. So that means a two-hour plus round trip into central London using four different trains.

Yet my daughter will no longer be able to have a fifth birthday party with five other children with whom she shares a classroom every day.
 

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I agree that there is very little logic in any of it any more other than it being driven by money and keeping schools open.

My whole department has been “encouraged/invited” into the office on Friday. So that means a two-hour plus round trip into central London using four different trains.

Yet my daughter will no longer be able to have a fifth birthday party with five other children with whom she shares a classroom every day.
Ridiculous.

We are lucky where we live as we have only had around 2 cases per week out of 160K people in the borough, 14 kids caught it on a holiday 2 weeks ago meaning their school didn't open (why they had to shut the school when the kids were isolating and nobody had gone in yet is another peculiar decision) and that saw a"spike". we are now back down to 2-3 per week but are now having to go back to 6 people per gathering.
 

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https://www.premierleague.com/news/1816405

Does not mention that Sky will be showing ANY of the extra PL games for free ??


At a Premier League Shareholders’ meeting today, clubs agreed that all 28 matches scheduled to be played in September will be broadcast live in the UK, via the League’s existing broadcasting partners Sky Sports, BT Sport, Amazon Prime Video and BBC.

Sky Sports and BT Sport have already selected 17 matches for live broadcast for the first three match rounds of the 2020/21 season. Of the remaining 11 matches, Sky Sports will broadcast an additional six, BT Sport a further three and BBC and Amazon Prime Video one each.

The Premier League is also in discussions with BBC Radio 5 Live and talkSPORT to agree a similar solution for radio.

In consultation with all relevant stakeholders, the Premier League is considering appropriate arrangements for matches which will take place after 1 October.
 

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What exactly are the club waiting for here in delaying comms?

There are government plans in place for October onwards to allow limited attendance, release comms based on that AND comms based on that plan being rescinded.
 

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I suspect I'm not the only that could easily be 'bought' with a nice little Lionel Road season ticket wallet (like the Farewell GP one) and a mass produced letter from MB dropping through the front door. Give me those and I'm happy to forgo any refund offered. (Assuming access to ifollow until we can go back). Oh, and maybe another mask - but not the Ann summers knickers/red one with the massive red logo.
 

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What exactly are the club waiting for here in delaying comms?
I'd like to think they are in dialogue with BIAS and that there is a lot of financial modelling to be done to evaluate options... plus the ticketing system will need a good work-over...
 

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I'd like to think they are in dialogue with BIAS and that there is a lot of financial modelling to be done to evaluate options... plus the ticketing system will need a good work-over...
They've kinda had a lot of time to do that already...
 

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They've kinda had a lot of time to do that already...
I think the dialogue with LBH's Safety Team to determine the allowed capacity needed to occur first.
 

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What exactly are the club waiting for here in delaying comms?

There are government plans in place for October onwards to allow limited attendance, release comms based on that AND comms based on that plan being rescinded.
Don’t disagree regarding getting some comms out but think the change in rules announced last night makes it very likely the October date is going to move to the right.
 

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What exactly are the club waiting for here in delaying comms?

There are government plans in place for October onwards to allow limited attendance, release comms based on that AND comms based on that plan being rescinded.
Have you seen the news today?

A new national lockdown in place, the club are in no position to announce anything without guidance from the Government.
 

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https://www.premierleague.com/news/1816405

Does not mention that Sky will be showing ANY of the extra PL games for free ??


At a Premier League Shareholders’ meeting today, clubs agreed that all 28 matches scheduled to be played in September will be broadcast live in the UK, via the League’s existing broadcasting partners Sky Sports, BT Sport, Amazon Prime Video and BBC.

Sky Sports and BT Sport have already selected 17 matches for live broadcast for the first three match rounds of the 2020/21 season. Of the remaining 11 matches, Sky Sports will broadcast an additional six, BT Sport a further three and BBC and Amazon Prime Video one each.

The Premier League is also in discussions with BBC Radio 5 Live and talkSPORT to agree a similar solution for radio.

In consultation with all relevant stakeholders, the Premier League is considering appropriate arrangements for matches which will take place after 1 October.

Why would they be showing any games for free?

I assume ST holders at those clubs will be given something like we have with ifollow but Sky and BT are not a charity.
 
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"We will be asking Season Ticket Holders to confirm their social bubbles shortly, please keep a close eye on Club communications as we will really need your assistance in maximising the number of Bees fans we can accommodate in our new home. Given the limited numbers of fans involved for the reduced capacity games, this will only be open to Season Ticket Holders who have paid in full by 31 August this year."

All STHers to get iFollow code for Huddersfield game. Which is good as iFollow has a very, very special guest that day.
 

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Why would they be showing any games for free?

I assume ST holders at those clubs will be given something like we have with ifollow but Sky and BT are not a charity.
Because ifollow are not signed up with the PL
Just the EFL

Its bad enough anyhow on a Saturday without asking for 300,000 PL fans to try using it as well...

Sky have not PAID for these extra games so why shouldn't they be shown for free ???
 

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Because ifollow are not signed up with the PL
Just the EFL

Its bad enough anyhow on a Saturday without asking for 300,000 PL fans to try using it as well...

Sky have not PAID for these extra games so why shouldn't they be shown for free ???

I said something "like" Ifollow, whether that is a free pass to their games on Sky or something would make sense.

What are these extra games you are referring to? Have sky got more games then they have paid for?
 

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I said something "like" Ifollow, whether that is a free pass to their games on Sky or something would make sense.

What are these extra games you are referring to? Have sky got more games then they have paid for?
It was announced yesterday that all 28 PL games in September will be shown on tv (Sky, BT and, to a lesser extent, BBC and Amazon Prime)...therefore I assume Sky do have more games than they originally purchased.
 

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