New Stadium Capacity (now c.17,800)

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Remember a story of a Newcastle fan years ago who had empty seats next to him despite sell outs. After Xmas a dad & son appeared, unbelievably the dads wife had bought them a season ticket as an Xmas present at start of season which he did'nt get until 25/12!!
Well, she obviously didn't want to punish them for the whole season.
 

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It's been done to death on here before. This thread is about what the LR capacity is.

Some of us who are on here a lot still don't have time to read every last post. Hard to tell a 5 year old 'I can't read you a story before bed because I am reading every last post on the Brentford messageboard to ascertain exactly how the Griffin Park capacity would have been reduced'.
 
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Some of us who are on here a lot still don't have time to read every last post. Hard to tell a 5 year old 'I can't read you a story before bed because I am reading every last post on the Brentford messageboard to ascertain exactly how the Griffin Park capacity would have been reduced'.
There's a search function. Plus it would be highly sub-optimal to have all information in all threads.
 

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But, as with ST no-shows or those listed on TE but not sold, they would still be 'counted' as part of the official attendance.
my point was not that they were counted or not just that they were empty, and we had people saying they couldn't get tickets.
How many members missed out that could probably have attended if they had been able to get one?
 
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my point was not that they were counted or not just that they were empty, and we had people saying they couldn't get tickets.
How many members missed out that could probably have attended if they had been able to get one?
How many members have missed out because i) STHers can't put their tickets on the exchange ii) Members can't access the exchange except for 4 milliseconds on a Tuesday before every other game iii) no-one knows where the Ticket Exchange is located as it's a Official Club Secret
 
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Today's attendance certainly puts pay to the suggestion that we needed a 100,000 seat stadium however.
 

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How many members have missed out because i) STHers can't put their tickets on the exchange ii) Members can't access the exchange except for 4 milliseconds on a Tuesday before every other game iii) no-one knows where the Ticket Exchange is located as it's a Official Club Secret
It shouldn't be too difficult to make the TE more accessible on the website. Surely it's in the clubs best interest to have every seat filled.
My lad couldn't get on it although a member but after I contacted the TO they managed to re-attach his account to mine and then he managed
to get one. It just needs tweaking.
 

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this happens at glasgow rangers all the time,people buy season tickets but only attend the rangers v celtic games.
tbh that's a totally different ball game (literally). And when you think of the other opposition on offer who can blame them?
 

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The wheelchair area in front of me in West Stand is never full. In fact I've yet to see a wheelchair user in them. If we know there are no disabled users requiring them per game, couldn't they be sold too??
 

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ST holders that regularly stay away are annoying, as they are filling a seat that a member or other fan could fill. I know they've paid for it, but that's not the point.
But it is the point!

I've paid for my Season Ticket seat and it's up to me to choose when to go. Given that a journey on the M4 that should only take 40 minutes actually took 3 hours down and 2 hours back yesterday isn't going to endear me to go more often if the journey is going to be that bad.

I do understand what you're saying and empathise with you.

What I do intend to do in future if I am unable to attend a game is ensure the ticket goes on the Ticket Exchange so others can benefit from it. But I have no intention of giving up the Season Ticket just because I can't attend all the games.
 

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Today's attendance certainly puts pay to the suggestion that we needed a 100,000 seat stadium however.
If we had given Brighton 3,500 tickets they would have sold them. The stadium is too small for Premier League but as you’ve said before, we don’t want masses of day trippers.
 

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Some of us who are on here a lot still don't have time to read every last post. Hard to tell a 5 year old 'I can't read you a story before bed because I am reading every last post on the Brentford messageboard to ascertain exactly how the Griffin Park capacity would have been reduced'.
Why don't you just read through the posts and use them as the bed time story?

"And then Banana came online to say :backtotopic: "
 

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If we had given Brighton 3,500 tickets they would have sold them. The stadium is too small for Premier League but as you’ve said before, we don’t want masses of day trippers.
We only have ourselves to blame if we stay up and this happens in future seasons
 

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Why don't you just read through the posts and use them as the bed time story?

"And then Banana came online to say :backtotopic: "

Actually the 5 year old might be up for that. At least she'd listen intently. I hate to think of the 4 year old's views of anyone on here.
 

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You won’t get a true attendance figure released publicly. The matchday operation control has this monitored through the day as they need to know how many people are in what part of the stadium.
So you are saying they know how many people are in the ground but won't disclose it, Very Strange!!
 
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The wheelchair area in front of me in West Stand is never full. In fact I've yet to see a wheelchair user in them. If we know there are no disabled users requiring them per game, couldn't they be sold too??
The wheelchair seats in the West stand were being used
I didn’t see anyone in a wheelchair 🤷‍♂️
 

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Because the figure will always be less than tickets sold one.
Tickets sold and bodies in the ground are two different items, they must have a very accurate total of who "Tapped" in to the BFC yesterday to watch the match in person, it's not rocket science to add up the combined totals of the turnstiles, that would give you the exact amount for yesterday.
 

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Tickets sold and bodies in the ground are two different items, they must have a very accurate total of who "Tapped" in to the BFC yesterday to watch the match in person, it's not rocket science to add up the combined totals of the turnstiles, that would give you the exact amount for yesterday.
That’s exactly what they have.
 

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The wheelchair seats in the West stand were being used
I didn’t see anyone in a wheelchair 🤷‍♂️
Many wheelchair users are able to walk short distances so may have used a wheelchair to get to the ground but be capable of getting to their seat on foot, or once there be more comfortable on a seat rather than in their wheelchair.
 

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I believe that is an untruth...why would you spend £400 or so to go to 1 game
People pay that all the time for sports events and actually even larger amounts. Plenty of cash about, be it those who can't really afford it but pay anyway or just loaded types.
 

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People pay that all the time for sports events and actually even larger amounts. Plenty of cash about, be it those who can't really afford it but pay anyway or just loaded types.
I would have paid the price of a hospitality ticket for the play off final had any Bees ones been available when I got through and it was just shy of £400. I’m not ultra wealthy and there’ll be plenty of London based fans of the big clubs who’d think nothing of dropping that much.
 

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Finally my first game in the new stadium as could not get to Arsenal. match. It’s so much better in the flesh than on TV. Good atmosphere and only thing missing was the positive result.
 

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The wheelchair seats in the West stand were being used
I didn’t see anyone in a wheelchair 🤷‍♂️
One of our group is 93/94. Unfortunately since rolling over his ST he is not always match fit. Yesterday he was in the wheelchair section of the East Stand. He is the father in law of one of our group. His SIL says the club could not have been more helpful in helping him to attend. Often gets knocked but well done BFC.
 

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One of our group is 93/94. Unfortunately since rolling over his ST he is not always match fit. Yesterday he was in the wheelchair section of the East Stand. He is the father in law of one of our group. His SIL says the club could not have been more helpful in helping him to attend. Often gets knocked but well done BFC.

As I've said before in recent years - certainly in the last decade, Brentford staff I've dealt with (and especially the ticket office) have been very good.
 

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Lets not forget that there will be many ST holders who will be swerving mass events still due to Covid. I bet a lot of fans have no idea about or how to use the ticket exchange.

Or they just cant be bothered to put them on the exchange or pass them on.

My old man for example wouldnt have a clue unless i told him.
 

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Strange thing is that it’s not so much one or two seats that are empty (which I could understand because of holidays, Covid etc) but several blocks of 6 to 12 seats.
 

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I think a slight change to the lay out could result in a few extra seats made available for home fans.
Instead of the away fans having a corner why not move them around into the corner of the East stand,
therefore only needing to section off one column of seats instead of 2 like it is now.
Or is there some reason why this can't be done?
 

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Obviously the extra 5k of ST holders we gained from the last year at GP are less loyal than those who were making up the original 6K. I am not having a dig but where did the come from and when we were still in the champ. It's quite a jump in one year?
 

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I think a slight change to the lay out could result in a few extra seats made available for home fans.
Instead of the away fans having a corner why not move them around into the corner of the East stand,
therefore only needing to section off one column of seats instead of 2 like it is now.
Or is there some reason why this can't be done?
Having away fans behind the goal gives a vocal advantage to the opposition.
 

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It was done at the request of the coaching staff.
I suppose they know what is best. If it affects them that much then go ahead and squeeze them into a corner where they are
less effective. I must admit I was in the West stand and couldn't really hear any Brighton singing, but it seemed quite loud in my stand.
Others have commented on not hearing much singing from the Westerners. Maybe the fans noise isn't really that much of an affect.
 

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I suppose they know what is best. If it affects them that much then go ahead and squeeze them into a corner where they are
less effective. I must admit I was in the West stand and couldn't really hear any Brighton singing, but it seemed quite loud in my stand.
Others have commented on not hearing much singing from the Westerners. Maybe the fans noise isn't really that much of an affect.

In the North Stand when they start singing I can hear them more than the West Stand but I’m nearer them.
 

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I believe that is an untruth...why would you spend £400 or so to go to 1 game
Cos they're goons up there. That's all that matters to them
 

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I think a slight change to the lay out could result in a few extra seats made available for home fans.
Instead of the away fans having a corner why not move them around into the corner of the East stand,
therefore only needing to section off one column of seats instead of 2 like it is now.
Or is there some reason why this can't be done?
In addition to not wanting away fans behind the goal - as already mentioned....

The concourses also were designed specifically around the Away location. The entrances I understand are turnstiles rather than the access mechanism at other points. The concourse is partitioned at the relevant expansion points also.
 

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my point was not that they were counted or not just that they were empty, and we had people saying they couldn't get tickets.
How many members missed out that could probably have attended if they had been able to get one?

My view of the North stand at 3:30pm on Saturday. I‘d be livid if I couldn’t have bought a ticket for the game….62F562AE-652C-46DE-A749-CA7BAEBDFCEF.jpeg
 

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My view of the North stand at 3:30pm on Saturday. I‘d be livid if I couldn’t have bought a ticket for the game….View attachment 27560

That's the 'premium' seating isn't it? Is this a manifestation of the money v 'real' supporter issue? That is striking though. I wonder how many were actually in the ground the other day? Also I'd love to know how many couldn't get in who would have if anyone could have bought a ticket.
 

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My view of the North stand at 3:30pm on Saturday. I‘d be livid if I couldn’t have bought a ticket for the game….View attachment 27560
Virtually none of the seats in the corner above the ‘Bee Together’ sign (maybe 50 plus) were taken. I wondered if this was an area the club had to reserve for PL ‘dignitaries’ who just didn’t bother coming along.
 
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