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I don't think this idiot has though, otherwise he wouldn't keep getting himself into trouble.
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A Real Mysteron
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I was talking about Evans.
Not the arsehole Ranger.
Not the arsehole Ranger.
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I don't think the new Brentford would accept anyone like Evans as we are aiming to be a " family club" and a signing such as that would just alienate half the potential new fans not to mention bringing the GPG into meltdown !!!!
sonofabee
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You are coming across as a knob if you really believe that.
If your daughter brought him home would you be so understanding?
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The bit I've bolded is important. Because, despite the system being soft, I agree with it. He's (whoever he may be) done the crime, served his time and we all crack on happily from there.
The obvious comparison is Oldham signing Lee Hughes. As good a goalscorer as you'll see at this (League One) level. £1,600 a week pretty much a bargain. I'll defend his right to work and I'll defend the right of somebody to employ him. But I'd be lying if I said I was glad we took him on.
From a playing perspective he was good. Very good. But much of his first season he was injured. In his second season he'd reached 18 goals, John Sheridan had been sacked and the play-offs were fading away. He was loaned to Blackpool to avoid triggering a goalscoring bonus and, while offered a contract for the following season went to Notts County for twice the money.
Off the pitch he was a reformed character. Community work, no drinking etc. The no drinking story was nonsense. He was often seen legless in the pubs of Saddleworth. He was anything but sober at the infamous night at the dogs which saw Sean Gregan allegedly smack Chris Taylor. While The a Sun wrongly made Hughes the villain he was certainly not a tea total bystander.
For me the difficulty came at home. Explaining to my then nine year old why he couldn't have "9 Hughes" on the back of his shirt was difficult. "Enjoy the goals, but don't like the man". The goal celebration itself was fun to a nine year old. Something of the pantomime villain about it. But uncomfortable to Dad.
It's hard to know if Oldham lost support due to the Lee Hughes signing. They probably didn't, although you still hear people say they stopped going because of him. It certainly damaged the reputation of the football club and I doubt I was alone in feeling uncomfortable about it.
So to Ched Evans. If I understand correctly he and his mate picked up a paralytic woman, the mate had a dabble then Ched follows up knowing full well the girl hasn't got a clue what's happening. It's an offence that's hard to defend.
Me? I'd rather have to explain to my kid the killing somebody by bad driving when high on drink or drugs being the reason he can't have a particular shirt. Beyond that, I'd rather my football club didn't put me in that position to start with.
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I do believe it.
If my daughter brought him home I would immediately alert the authorities as she is only 7.
As for the knob bit......
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Well posted "opinions". I don't believe Brentford have had the problem of a player causing death by driving or being convicted of rape. (Although we've had players accused of assault and cleared iirc) It's not a situation I would want to see the club put in. If something serious did happen, I don't believe this football club would stand by such a player, IMO. But still a well written post though.
As for Real Mysteron, there's a bit of me that feels that the poster is "trolling", and hoping for a reaction, than actually believing it's his opinion that a club like ours would ever want to sign a convicted rapist, over a footballer that has been charged but cleared, so far, of his current misdemeanours.
Nile Ranger is a troubled human being. He needs help before he seeks employment as a footballer again.
As for Real Mysteron, there's a bit of me that feels that the poster is "trolling", and hoping for a reaction, than actually believing it's his opinion that a club like ours would ever want to sign a convicted rapist, over a footballer that has been charged but cleared, so far, of his current misdemeanours.
Nile Ranger is a troubled human being. He needs help before he seeks employment as a footballer again.
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It more than crossed my mind. But I thought the comparison was worth making.
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By your standards don't really see how the two are any different..
Not a chance that under our current regime we would sign a player similarly tainted. it would split the fanbase at a time when we have never been so united with a common goal moving forward. We have had Kevin Dennis in the past as well as another player whose contract was cancelled over 40 years ago.
sonofabee
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I don't know Ranger but I think he needs help and decent family to give him that help.
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After several attempts, it appears he has failed to see the error of his ways.
Chances are, thats his life mapped out and he will never amount to anything more than a third rate footy player in non league who spends the summer holidaying in one of her majestys secure hotels.
Chances are, thats his life mapped out and he will never amount to anything more than a third rate footy player in non league who spends the summer holidaying in one of her majestys secure hotels.
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sonofabee
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Tell me honestly then, if your daughter brings home a convicted rapist when she's an adult you'll be ok about it?
If the answer is yes I stand by my view that you must be a knob.
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If you think that employing somebody to do a job, and wanting them to date their daughter are the same, then I m afraid they aren't.
I'm not trolling either.
Do you all think that it is right to discriminate against the employment of ex offenders? My company have worked to to rehabilitate ex offenders with some great success. I see it as part of my responsibility as an employer to give everybody an equal chance.
Did you never do anything questionable when drunk when you were younger?
I'm not saying what he did was right. He was convicted and has done his time.
He won't be joining us anyway so it is a purely hypothetical argument.
I'm not trolling either.
Do you all think that it is right to discriminate against the employment of ex offenders? My company have worked to to rehabilitate ex offenders with some great success. I see it as part of my responsibility as an employer to give everybody an equal chance.
Did you never do anything questionable when drunk when you were younger?
I'm not saying what he did was right. He was convicted and has done his time.
He won't be joining us anyway so it is a purely hypothetical argument.
hanworthbee
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Not sure how the female supporters of our club would feel if we were to sign a convicted rapist.......ranger on the other hand will be back inside soon enough
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I don't recall raping anybody.
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That isn't what I said.
You all carry on making up your own arguments.
I'm going to enjoy my summer.
You all carry on making up your own arguments.
I'm going to enjoy my summer.
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It was a reasonable leap given the context of the discussion.
Enjoy the Summer!
sonofabee
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You didn't answer the question, would you allow your daughter to date a convicted rapist because he deserves a second chance?
Have a nice summer yourself.
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Theres plenty of occupations where particular criminal offences would preclude you from that particular job. I work in one myself where Ranger would not be employed because of his offences. Id like to think that Brentford as a community based club and working hard within the community building strong links, would sign players that would benefit the club both on and off the pitch.
And no I never did anything questionable in my younger days because of drink, and dont know anyone who did.
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What not even an all night Doctor Who marathon?
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Well I'd try to look on the positive side - at least I wouldn't have too much trouble remembering his name when he's sat on the sofa with that helpful tattoo on his face to remind me.
hanworthbee
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Signs for Blackpool
Les Beeavinu
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I can't imagine what he'll get up to of an evening there.
whyteleafebee76
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Its a receipe for yet another court case. I reckon he'll be arrested between now and Christmas, not really a bold statement is it.
TW3Bee
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I reckon before the clocks go back.
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Car crash waiting to happen.........literally!!
TW1Bee
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Or before the lights go on.
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Another reason why Blackpool will go this season
jlove
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We'll probably be able to give him our best wishes on Tuesday, I'd guess.
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Downbeat Bee
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Just seen this - no major surprise
bees78039991
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Just tweeted saying he's in London family
Issues!!
Issues!!
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.........yep..........Big Issues...........
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sonofabee
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You're gluttons for punishment aren't you?
Still think we'll read about his demise before long sadly.
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:laugh:
Oldham love to be in the limelight! lol
Best of luck with him...... If he turns up that is.
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I think Oldham are trying to secure a lucrative sponsorship deal with the probation service. No other rational explanation.
It used to be that bad boys would find an uncle to offer them a job as a painter and decorator just before they did their plea in mitigation to avoid prison. Soon they'll have the option of claiming to have had talks with Oldham.
It used to be that bad boys would find an uncle to offer them a job as a painter and decorator just before they did their plea in mitigation to avoid prison. Soon they'll have the option of claiming to have had talks with Oldham.
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Anyone for a doubee if that is how it;s spelt. Your club are desperate.
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He's not even particularly good.
I assume Gary Madine will rock up tomorrow before 11pm.
I assume Gary Madine will rock up tomorrow before 11pm.
hanworthbee
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Have to wonder whether Oldham have the least morals in the whole of the football league .
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You also have to wonder if the press are just automatically linking every bad boy to Oldham due to their stupidity in entertaining Ched Evans.
At least with Evans he was a half decent footballer in his day.
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Correct, he's a bit on the useless side of crap.
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@Matt_Chambers_: To put minds at rest, Latics will definitely not be signing Nile Ranger. #oafc
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He pony anyways looking at Oldham they got good chance of a play off without him
TW3Bee
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Possibly , but leaving aside Rangers' off field history he is just not a "professional" footballer so why would anybody above non league want him?
Not sure you can bracket him in the same mould as Evans as he not a "convicted" rapist.
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Didn't he Instagram a copy of the letter he was sent confirming this? He's even taking the piss about taking the piss.
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Blackpool turn the lights out you are done !