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What if the bloke sat behind you, sat quietly not saying a lot and then when we're losing just started saying the same thing over and over and over again? Would you say something to him then?
Advantage with a forum is you can just stick them on ignore
 

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Consider this, how do you think these posters feel when everyone rounds on them and insults them? Is that a fair response to their post?
If they are saying stuff like we are crap, our players are crap, we aren't good enough for top 2 even though we have been top 2 for months and we never turn up to the big games I really hope they feel utterly stupid after the responses they are rightly getting.
 

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We're all a bit upset tonight and that's naturally come out in this thread. As has been said, we're still in a very good position and have every chance still of getting second. To think that we are now in a position where "only" being in the Play Offs would be a disappointment shows just how far we have come. I well remember Warbs telling us all off for wanting to simply being happy with fourth from bottom in 14/15, our first year back in this Division, and I'll be very honest, if that's how it had ended, I'd have been happy with that. Of course, thanks to a late collapse by Derby, we got into the Play Offs that year.

I did chuckle at one poster (and I won't quote his post) who joined in 2009 and has posted 6 times. It's a free country and he can do and say what he likes but I did wonder if he used to sit in New Road at GP........
 

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Who decides if it’s rubbish or an opinion?
I am sorry but that old cliche doesn't wash any more, someone thinking they can spout any old rubbish and have other people accept it quietly just because they says "its my opinion" doesn't work any longer. If what they say is demonstrably nonsense then it can be called out or ridiculed. Someone can't say the world is flat add expect everyone to believe it because "it is their opinion".

If you think Canos isn't good enough, fair enough, that is opinion, if you think we aren't good enough to go up then that is not a valid opinion because we are secoind and went 21 games unbeaten. It is demonstrably not the case.

That is how I decide.
 

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If they are saying stuff like we are crap, our players are crap, we aren't good enough for top 2 even though we have been top 2 for months and we never turn up to the big games I really hope they feel utterly stupid after the responses they are rightly getting.
No need to scream the place down. People have their opinions, learn to live with it even if they are demonstrably wrong. You are also misrepresenting what people have posted tonight.
 

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I think what disappointed me tonight was the performance. As a club we pride ourself on being a side who, play out from the back, move the ball quickly, like to play football rather than park the bus and indulge in the dark arts. However tonight and for some time the defence have really struggled to bring the ball out, repeatedly turning around and passing sideways, backwards or to the keeper. We have become very slow in our build up. To many stray passes when not under pressure. Very little self belief when going forward.

No I know we have been playing a zillion matches every week, we have some key injuries and all sides go through a dip in form in the season. I know we are close to the top of the league. It’s obviously not all doom and gloom. However the recent trend has not had the ‘Brentford’ stamp. We have lost a bit of our mojo.

let’s hope Thomas can rally the team and find that lost spark. It would be good to start to see an upward trend in our performance. We need that bit of self belief back, once this happens I believe we can make the automatic play off place. If it doesn’t I think we will be in the playoffs.

c’mon you Bee, onwards and upwards.
 

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I am sorry but that old cliche doesn't wash any more, someone thinking they can spout any old rubbish and have other people accept it quietly just because they says "its my opinion" doesn't work any longer. If what they say is demonstrably nonsense then it can be called out or ridiculed. Someone can't say the world is flat add expect everyone to believe it because "it is their opinion".

If you think Canos isn't good enough, fair enough, that is opinion, if you think we aren't good enough to go up then that is not a valid opinion because we are secoind and went 21 games unbeaten. It is demonstrably not the case.

That is how I decide.
I hope you're right and ultimately after 46 plus games if required we are good enough to go up. Personally I think we are good enough myself but after the season ends some people who differ in that view may be proved correct that we weren't good enough. To me it is about opinions and time usually tells who was correct, but debates and discussions can take place until we find out the facts or end result.
 

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I think what disappointed me tonight was the performance. As a club we pride ourself on being a side who, play out from the back, move the ball quickly, like to play football rather than park the bus and indulge in the dark arts. However tonight and for some time the defence have really struggled to bring the ball out, repeatedly turning around and passing sideways, backwards or to the keeper. We have become very slow in our build up. To many stray passes when not under pressure. Very little self belief when going forward.
I don't pretend to know enough about football to understand how but Norwich stopped any chance of quick ball with the system they played. No space to play into, no space out wide, no out ball to an isolated Toney and enough fear for us not to risk passes because of their counter attack. We therefore keep the ball moving, hoping for a break that never appeared. I think you just walk away and say pound for pound, they were better than us. You've got to remember, they will have played this system against some of the very best "attacking" teams so wouldn't have been in any way daunted by our approach.
 
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I am sorry but that old cliche doesn't wash any more, someone thinking they can spout any old rubbish and have other people accept it quietly just because they says "its my opinion" doesn't work any longer. If what they say is demonstrably nonsense then it can be called out or ridiculed. Someone can't say the world is flat add expect everyone to believe it because "it is their opinion".

If you think Canos isn't good enough, fair enough, that is opinion, if you think we aren't good enough to go up then that is not a valid opinion because we are secoind and went 21 games unbeaten. It is demonstrably not the case.

That is how I decide.
If someone doesn’t think that we aren't good enough to go up then of course that is a valid opinion. if we do go up at the end of the season then it is not a valid opinion clearly.
 

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This is proof positive that the GPG should be given a miss for a day after a loss,wish i'd taken my own advice.

A really horrible thread to scroll through,full of in fighting and insults including from some that should be setting the standard of this fantastic forum not lowering them.
 

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I thought we played quite well tonight but the fact remains that Swansea won and we lost. Swansea have two games in hand. Norwich barring a disaster going up as Champions , Swansea in driving seat for second. Even the most complacent or with their glasses turning redder must see that the odds of auto promotion are against us. The play offs are now are now our best hope and we know what our record is in them!! Afraid losses to Barnsley QPR and Coventry will define our season.
 

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I thought we played quite well tonight but the fact remains that Swansea won and we lost. Swansea have two games in hand. Norwich barring a disaster going up as Champions , Swansea in driving seat for second. Even the most complacent or with their glasses turning redder must see that the odds of auto promotion are against us. The play offs are now are now our best hope and we know what our record is in them!! Afraid losses to Barnsley QPR and Coventry will define our season.
So Swansea will win all their games till the end of the season and Brentford can't win the play offs. You should let MB know so he can tell TF and the boys to give up now.
 

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I thought we played quite well tonight but the fact remains that Swansea won and we lost. Swansea have two games in hand. Norwich barring a disaster going up as Champions , Swansea in driving seat for second. Even the most complacent or with their glasses turning redder must see that the odds of auto promotion are against us. The play offs are now are now our best hope and we know what our record is in them!! Afraid losses to Barnsley QPR and Coventry will define our season.
The next 12 games will define our season.
 

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I don't pretend to know enough about football to understand how but Norwich stopped any chance of quick ball with the system they played. No space to play into, no space out wide, no out ball to an isolated Toney and enough fear for us not to risk passes because of their counter attack. We therefore keep the ball moving, hoping for a break that never appeared. I think you just walk away and say pound for pound, they were better than us. You've got to remember, they will have played this system against some of the very best "attacking" teams so wouldn't have been in any way daunted by our approach.
That’s a fair point you make - but, I’m o.k. If we fail when trying to get the ball forward, but tonight we very rarely even tried. I think we are better than that
 

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I hope that Banana and the mods regroup after tonight’s sh*tshow of a thread and reconsider what the GPG is, and is for. Tonight, for whatever reason, it’s attracted a very large clown car full of jokers who, whilst having been registered for several years, have only ever posted a minimum of times before but now wish to assure us that the team is rubbish, Matthew Benham has no ambition, Brentford always fail at big games, and we’re doomed (despite being second in the division).

Please - please can the mods ask Zippo and Bozo to collect their size 54 red brogues, rotating bow ties, and square-wheeled car and f*** right off. And once they’ve f***ed off out of the big top, f*** right off down the road, past the cycling chimps’ enclosure, and just keep on going until all we can see of them is the back of their orange wigs.

Total joke here tonight. :mad:
Let me check our league position and get back to you.
 

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Mr Banana, Not sure quite how this forum works in terms of hierarchy, but I get the impression that you are numero uno in relation to what can be allowed on any given topic. However on your reply to Mr Magic, in my opinion you are totally out of order. He is a Brentford supporter and is entitled to his opinion. I have ignored your nasty replies to supporters for quite a while now but your reply to Mr Magic is for me just nasty and vindictive..
Yeah he is. In his own bedroom.
 
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There were some poor performances tonight and I think Sergi’s was a standout in that regard. But I’m sure a good game will be round the corner for him.

The most promising thing about this loss for me is other than that one on one with Raya that Jensen tried to play woefully offside Norwich created little. We didn’t lose badly, we just performed badly, and if the tide had been in our favour could have nicked a draw. So not all bad, but the performance was very indicative of a lot of the 45 minutes - 90 minute performances we’ve put in recently. We need to up them now we’re out of the sat-wed-sat-wed slog otherwise we won’t maintain 2nd place as performances generally drive results
 

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We have a great owner, a great coach and a really good squad of talented players from all over the world . Today we lost to a very good and experienced team. But only 1-0. I remember being spanked by cart-horses from Halifax, Accrington Stanley, Workington long ago., and by Yeovil in the playoffs not that long ago. Patience my friends, I believe we are in an exceptionally good place right now.
 

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this is why people get annoyed when people wet the bed on here, we are 7 points better off than last year in what was a season everyone loved (until the ending), add in the fact we had the shortest pre season ever, with games non stop then its pretty impressive what weve achieved so far. As for not bringing anyone in, phil giles said we tried in january but if other clubs are going to keep raising the price for these players then what can we do
 

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I hope that Banana and the mods regroup after tonight’s sh*tshow of a thread and reconsider what the GPG is, and is for. Tonight, for whatever reason, it’s attracted a very large clown car full of jokers who, whilst having been registered for several years, have only ever posted a minimum of times before but now wish to assure us that the team is rubbish, Matthew Benham has no ambition, Brentford always fail at big games, and we’re doomed (despite being second in the division).

Please - please can the mods ask Zippo and Bozo to collect their size 54 red brogues, rotating bow ties, and square-wheeled car and f*** right off. And once they’ve f***ed off out of the big top, f*** right off down the road, past the cycling chimps’ enclosure, and just keep on going until all we can see of them is the back of their orange wigs.

Total joke here tonight. :mad:
:judge::imwith::love:

Post of the season!
 

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Honestly struggling to understand many of the posts on here. We lost yesterday to (probably) the best team in the league. It was our first defeat of the season to any team in the current top 7. We actually played pretty well in the first half and on a better day Canos and Toney may well have put us a goal or two up. Yes, the second half was terrible from our perspective, but maybe we can give some credit to Norwich for that (there were two teams playing out there after all!)?

And for those who keep bleating on about the refs every week, yes some of them aren't great, but we get decisions in EVERY GAME that go against us, as does literally EVERY OTHER TEAM! That's just football. I get the need to vent if we get an absolute howler that costs us the game, but this rarely happens and certainly didn't last night.
 

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We have just lost what was our toughest game of the season to the team that will be champions, with a couple of decisions that didn't go our way not just in this game but games elsewhere.
We are still second, with plenty of points to play for, and other teams aren't going to keep getting ridiculous penalty decisions in their favour, hopefully.
 

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I think what disappointed me tonight was the performance. As a club we pride ourself on being a side who, play out from the back, move the ball quickly, like to play football rather than park the bus and indulge in the dark arts. However tonight and for some time the defence have really struggled to bring the ball out, repeatedly turning around and passing sideways, backwards or to the keeper. We have become very slow in our build up. To many stray passes when not under pressure. Very little self belief when going forward.

No I know we have been playing a zillion matches every week, we have some key injuries and all sides go through a dip in form in the season. I know we are close to the top of the league. It’s obviously not all doom and gloom. However the recent trend has not had the ‘Brentford’ stamp. We have lost a bit of our mojo.

let’s hope Thomas can rally the team and find that lost spark. It would be good to start to see an upward trend in our performance. We need that bit of self belief back, once this happens I believe we can make the automatic play off place. If it doesn’t I think we will be in the playoffs.

c’mon you Bee, onwards and upwards.
I think this is what is has been wrong in the last few games. If we had really upped the pace in the second half last night it would have been a different story.
 

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Excellent. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.
I’d much rather read the crap “Brentford are sh*t” posts that seem to set you off than the constant stream of abuse you seem to spout at other posters these days.

Don’t know what’s happened to you but you seem to snap really quickly and easily these days. From someone who is essentially “in charge” it’s really not on.
 

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Canos’ miss was pivotal. Trying to hard to impress his former employers he then played a big part in their goal when playing the wrong pass and being brushed aside by Buendia .2/ 3 other covering defenders also failed to get a challenge in and once they were in front we huffed and puffed in an attempt to draw level without really looking cohesive or convincing !
No real tempo to our play and without Rico /Da Silva going forward & past opponents we looked pedestrian made worse by our failure to pass to one another consistently.
The second half was hugely disappointing and illustrated how we are flattering to deceive at the moment. I honestly feel we need all of our best players to be available for us to compete successfully for automatic promotion . Given that won’t be the case I am keeping my hopes well under control !
Totally agree with you, never post on here but get fed up watching 2 midfieders who cant tackle wont head the ball for love or money, we are too powder puff
and need some grit in the side but don"t know where we are going to get it from. Sorrenson is not a left back why has Frank decided that he is,
Too slow too weak just not good enough.
Let's try and stick, at least partly, to the point. This evening's game....Is anyone else finding the games this season, the longer it goes on, more and more of a non-event? I'll wait for the missiles for saying that, but the twice weekly schedule, a team that looks increasingly like it hasn't fully recovered from the previous game;s exertions and playing without the required intensity, no crowd and low energy commentary, make for games which feel more like pre-season warm ups than top of the table clahses at the sharp end of the season. Tonight's more so than ever, apart from a good spell from us for 20 minutes in the first half. But let's be honest, what did Tim Kruell have to do second half...we looked mentally and physically knackered, which explained the constant missed passes and , giving away of possession. Shame because Norwich were not as special as the Sky commentary made out but we lacked the energy and drive to capitalise on it. I don't buy into the "we;ve got no chance of second" stuff. Far too early to say that. We're in as good a place as any but need De Silva and PJ back as soon as possible. Team somehow needs to get its mojo back and more leaders on the pitch.
I think the sky commentators were trying their best to talk up what was a pretty drab match all round. Thomas Frank’s pre match announcement to the viewing public that it promised to be a clash of the Titans turned out to be more like Romeo and Juliet falling asleep in front of the telly.
 

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Bit controversial but a couple of points on the actual football last night:

Free kicks - let Ghoddos take them rather than Jensen. Much better delivery for me

Long throws - please stop! I know we scored from one recently but in general this season they just don't work and slow the game down. A few times last night everyone was in the box waiting for MBS and there was a great opportunity to throw it short to one of our players and get a cross or shot in instead. If we're going to do it at least mix it up a bit
 

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I didn’t realise the season finished last night and while showing on the BBC website as second in the table we are in fact rubbish.
I’m very grateful to the experts on here whose insight and expertise has made me realise I know nothing . In hindsight I wish someone had maybe mentioned earlier as we went on a 20 game unbeaten run that saw us lose 3 league games in 28 as I foolishly believed we were quite good then
 

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I hope that Banana and the mods regroup after tonight’s sh*tshow of a thread and reconsider what the GPG is, and is for. Tonight, for whatever reason, it’s attracted a very large clown car full of jokers who, whilst having been registered for several years, have only ever posted a minimum of times before but now wish to assure us that the team is rubbish, Matthew Benham has no ambition, Brentford always fail at big games, and we’re doomed (despite being second in the division).

Please - please can the mods ask Zippo and Bozo to collect their size 54 red brogues, rotating bow ties, and square-wheeled car and f*** right off. And once they’ve f***ed off out of the big top, f*** right off down the road, past the cycling chimps’ enclosure, and just keep on going until all we can see of them is the back of their orange wigs.

Total joke here tonight. :mad:
Good post 👍I’ve learnt not to visit these threads when we lose until the following day it makes sense.
 

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I’d much rather read the crap “Brentford are sh*t” posts that seem to set you off than the constant stream of abuse you seem to spout at other posters these days.

Don’t know what’s happened to you but you seem to snap really quickly and easily these days. From someone who is essentially “in charge” it’s really not on.
After reading through a number of match threads on here recently it appears there are 2 main camps ... The bed wetters and the bully boys.
Then there's the rest of us who put our feet up grab a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show 🍿😁
 

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The team that scored first were always likely to go on and win this game. Norwich should have scored first with Pukkis first chance early on. Sergio missed our first chance and I felt Toney could have done better but must acknowledge it was a difficult chance but he is Ivan Toney. Once Norwich scored we never posed much of a threat. We gave the ball away too easily and some people's first touch deserted them tonight. This meant we couldn't keep possession and their midfield won loads of second balls after that. A push in the last 4 minutes nearly saw us get an undeserved equaliser.

Positives were that we created 2 good chances in 20 mins and should have scored one. Negatives were that our soft underbelly was exposed and we conceded a goal that was easily avoidable with better decision making.

I will say I wouldn't call this thread an updates thread as it is just full of sniping more than anything else and it is rather pathetic to see 50-60 year old men disagreeing like children but whatever floats your boat I suppose.
 

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I don't pretend to know enough about football to understand how but Norwich stopped any chance of quick ball with the system they played. No space to play into, no space out wide, no out ball to an isolated Toney and enough fear for us not to risk passes because of their counter attack. We therefore keep the ball moving, hoping for a break that never appeared. I think you just walk away and say pound for pound, they were better than us. You've got to remember, they will have played this system against some of the very best "attacking" teams so wouldn't have been in any way daunted by our approach.
.....indeed....last night was a reality check for players and supporters of BFC alike......whilst imo not the same force as Wolves,or dare I say it,Leeds over the past few seasons....Norwich last night proved they are the best team in the Championship season 20-21.....reality is painful.
 

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It’s gonna go to the wire I’m sure and even Reading below are in the mix. Norwich are up and personally I think it’s Watford us and Swansea. Watford are best equipped squad wise but it’s who will hold there nerve. A fit Josh and Rico on the pitch I’d fancy us but I’m not so confident now.
 

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I’m simply amazed at those so-called supporters on here, whose only interest seems to be very unsupportive.
It is by no means everyone, but there seem to be a fair few, who don’t post anything positive, but turn up when we lose.

Goodness knows what they would be saying, if we had lost last night, and we had slipped from 21st in the league to 22nd!!!

If you look objectively at last night.
Norwich played well.
They scored just one goal through individual brilliance. Even that crept through by the narrowest of fine margins, squeezing somehow in between Reid and Pinnock.
We defended quite well, and they didn’t turn any of their other chances into goals.
Norwich had to play well for 90 minutes, because they knew that we would threaten with a breakaway until the final whistle.
In that respect, they didn’t dominate us, they just played better on the night, which is what you would expect from them as the top club.

In the last 4 minutes, they were hanging on, with a debatable penalty decision against us, and a a debatable free kick against us for the melée in their goalmouth.
All small margins, which turn a game.

Yes, it is very disappointing to lose, but it’s not the end of the world. We are 2nd, and the permutations of who will win against who are endless.

The biggest thing is that I know this squad, TF and everyone in the club will keep on pushing towards promotion.
They know we have a real scrap on our hands as we enter the last quarter of fixtures.

However, I think we are in better position to deal with the challenge than last year.
Last year we were running into those last vital games with too much confidence and everyone in the media assuming we we nailed on for promotion.

This year, we have to really, really fight for it.

I just hope that the posters above, claiming to be supporters, who are moaning so negatively, don’t turn up hypocritically to cheer when we are promoted.
With their type of support, you’d think we were heading into the National League.
 

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