Final Score Norwich 1 - 0 Bees

[Frothybaby]

And another thing, Don Goodman (bell and!)

 

[Untouchable]

Maybe he unjustifiably caught my wrath then. In which apologies to him. My mood hasn't been helped by watching via CCTV some scroats stealing thousands of pounds worth from our business around 10pm.

Absolute bastards ‘nana.

Hope they catch the scum nice and quickly and you can recover losses without too much grief.

 

[Beecareful]

old cliches but onwards and upwards and tomorrow is another day and keep the faith.

my only thought is we looked a yard slower than a month ago. the cup run, with hindsight, didn't help.

 

[Mr Cynical]

Although he's our best central defender I think we're missing Pontus for his ability to hit good accurate 50 yard passes along the floor to the front 3. Last season this was moving play quickly to Watkins & co. Without him the ball spends too long in our defensive area giving the opposition time to regroup.

this is one of those myths that seem to pop up when a player has spent a long time out of the team. Reid is far more positive with his passing than Pontus ever was. Sorenson too..

 

[beeeehive]

Looking back as soon as it went 1-0 they had 6 men behind the ball always including two very attacking fast fullbacks and two quality holding midfielders. It was always going to be pretty impossible at that point and easy for Norwich to counter with 4 players. Both teams had golden chances before 1-0, it probably would have been very even and end to end if it stayed 0-0.

Norwich are quality and know how to get a job done.

All the fixtures coming up are winnable and fingers crossed we can play like we did away at Swansea and Watford.

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Looking back as soon as it went 1-0 they had 6 men behind the ball always including two very attacking fast fullbacks and two quality holding midfielders. It was always going to be pretty impossible at that point and easy for Norwich to counter with 4 players. Both teams had golden chances before 1-0, it probably would have been very even and end to end if it stayed 0-0.

Norwich are quality and know how to get a job done.

All the fixtures coming up are winnable and fingers crossed we can play like we did away at Swansea and Watford.

That’s the difference, knowing how to get the job done, there is no team in this division, that are way ahead of us performance wise.

 

[mhead bee]

Apologies all for being a little rude yesterday evening. I am pretty wound up about other things atm...

I didn't notice the difference

I hope you find the sh*ts that turned you over, sickening.

 

[Delbee]

I think the disappointment may be due to our record in the play offs.

Surely it got to change , but there again we may not need them as there is some very interesting games to come , none more so than the last 2 games . Brentford v Watford Swansea v Derby Bristol City v Brentford Watford v Swansea

 

[Leicester Bee]

I tend to avoid forums and social media after we lose games because I don't want to read negativity. However, I defend people's right to a) say what they feel and b) the right to question it.

In my opinion, frustration often needs to be externalised. On matchdays, we get frustrated, we say things on the terraces, maybe continue at the pub, but then calm down after discussion with fans who might hold alternative opinions. Face to face discussions are mostly highly productive in allowing the release of frustration, but then rationalisation is much easier face to face.

On forums and social media, every opinion gets read, so it's the equivalent of getting on the tannoy during games and announcing to the entire stadium how frustrated you are. Some just say what they "need" to say and that's it. Some just go on and on and on and on about it, which gets other people down. We are all different, and there's almost no question that if you were at a game, and there's someone within earshot constantly going on and on and on about how crap a player is, or how the team is throwing away promotion, etc, then it might grate on you.

But, I would honestly say that 99.99% of everyone who is releasing their frustration from behind a keyboard, aren't trying to bring everyone down, they're just releasing off the frustration that has built up because they so want to see Brentford do well.

At the same time, I hope that those who are releasing their frustrations understand that to some, it does feel like standing next to a person on a terrace who is having a go at the team. We all different levels of patience, and I've seen fans tell others to shut up and pipe down, when on the terraces. Lots of people just don't want to be brought down to a negative place. They want hope, they want to feel optimistic for the next game.

Everyone is highly emotional after losses, it's much more in the open on a forum or on social media, but we just need to remember that we're all fans of the same club and actually, we all want pretty much the same thing. Honestly, if you don't like it, avoid the forums for 24 hours or just ignore the posts that you feel are dragging you down.

 

[mhead bee]

old cliches but onwards and upwards and tomorrow is another day and keep the faith.

my only thought is we looked a yard slower than a month ago. the cup run, with hindsight, didn't help.

Very few players played last night that were involved in the cup run.

I think we can overanalyse it, we were not that bad, Norwich were a bit better, we were a bit unlucky with a couple of chances, they were very lucky with homer of a ref. Not many people get much up there. Had we won 2 more games in the last 2 weeks we wouldn't be analysing the performance.

In 4 games times we will see, 4 winnable games, win 2-3 draw one, draw 1-2 and lets see where the chasing pack are.

We need to keep our noses in front, remember from last year what pressure does to a team. Swansea will not keep getting gifted games they don't deserve.

 

[mhead bee]

I tend to avoid forums and social media after we lose games because I don't want to read negativity. However, I defend people's right to a) say what they feel and b) the right to question it.

In my opinion, frustration often needs to be externalised. On matchdays, we get frustrated, we say things on the terraces, maybe continue at the pub, but then calm down after discussion with fans who might hold alternative opinions. Face to face discussions are mostly highly productive in allowing the release of frustration, but then rationalisation is much easier face to face.

On forums and social media, every opinion gets read, so it's the equivalent of getting on the tannoy during games and announcing to the entire stadium how frustrated you are. Some just say what they "need" to say and that's it. Some just go on and on and on and on about it, which gets other people down. We are all different, and there's almost no question that if you were at a game, and there's someone within earshot constantly going on and on and on about how crap a player is, or how the team is throwing away promotion, etc, then it might grate on you.

But, I would honestly say that 99.99% of everyone who is releasing their frustration from behind a keyboard, aren't trying to bring everyone down, they're just releasing off the frustration that has built up because they so want to see Brentford do well.

At the same time, I hope that those who are releasing their frustrations understand that to some, it does feel like standing next to a person on a terrace who is having a go at the team. We all different levels of patience, and I've seen fans tell others to shut up and pipe down, when on the terraces. Lots of people just don't want to be brought down to a negative place. They want hope, they want to feel optimistic for the next game.

Everyone is highly emotional after losses, it's much more in the open on a forum or on social media, but we just need to remember that we're all fans of the same club and actually, we all want pretty much the same thing. Honestly, if you don't like it, avoid the forums for 24 hours or just ignore the posts that you feel are dragging you down.

I agree mainly, I think people take exception when a small minibus sized group of people only ever appear after a defeat and start trotting out rubbish like saying we are not good enough, will be lucky to get in the play offs, should have bought more players, are bottlers and never win big games. It is as if they love the failure and can't wait to put us down, nowhere to be seen when we win.

We all talk crap during a game, I look at some of my own half time posts and have a giggle after the game when we have won but I never put down the quality of player and potential we have and how brilliantly we are run.

 

[Wise old Bee]

this is one of those myths that seem to pop up when a player has spent a long time out of the team. Reid is far more positive with his passing than Pontus ever was. Sorenson too..

I think we miss his leadership on the pitch more than his ability as a player. Nothing wrong with our current available CBs but Pontus offers something more. We'll never know if he would have thrown his body at Buendia's shot last night either. He might also have given orders to those who could have prevented Buendia's run at goal. All "mights" of course.

 

[rebus]

I’d much rather read the crap “Brentford are sh*t” posts that seem to set you off than the constant stream of abuse you seem to spout at other posters these days.

Don’t know what’s happened to you but you seem to snap really quickly and easily these days. From someone who is essentially “in charge” it’s really not on.

His ball, his rules.

 

[Delbee]

I think she you look at the games all they have to play this month these will sort out the season’s end

 

[Banana]

His ball, his rules.

Everyone’s ball. Everyone’s rules.

 

[BudleighBee]

I agree mainly, I think people take exception when a small minibus sized group of people only ever appear after a defeat and start trotting out rubbish like saying we are not good enough, will be lucky to get in the play offs, should have bought more players, are bottlers and never win big games. It is as if they love the failure and can't wait to put us down, nowhere to be seen when we win.

We all crap during a game, I look at some of my own half time posts and have a giggle after the game when we have won but I never put down the quality of player and potential we have and how brilliantly we are run.

Mhead, I can see that you disagree with those views mentioned in your post, as do I, well some of them anyway, but argue the point and win the argument, there really is no need for personal insults and it just weakens your own, very often, strong position. You cannot say that a view of 'we are not good enough for top two is wrong', it may turn out to be wrong or right, who knows. Very often the same people who say 'look we are second we must be good enough' and anyone who says otherwise is a fool, but were also saying at the time that Swansea, when they were second, were not good enough and will fade, a view often expressed. That may be right, but at the moment Swansea are one point behind with 2 games in hand. Yes it will hopefully all turn around and with 12 games left we can get the upper hand again. For what its worth, I don't think we will finish top two, but I do think we will be in the play-offs and that we can win them, especially if have a full squad to choose from. I may turn out to be wrong and if you think so, then argue the point.

 

[mhead bee]

I think we miss his leadership on the pitch more than his ability as a player. Nothing wrong with our current available CBs but Pontus offers something more. We'll never know if he would have thrown his body at Buendia's shot last night either. He might also have given orders to those who could have prevented Buendia's run at goal. All "mights" of course.

I don't think much is wrong, we lost, they were a bit better, we could have snatched something but didn't. We have maintained second spot and top 6 for months without PJ and CN so don't think we have missed them but when they are back it is more talented available bodies.

 

[beetee]

Apologies all for being a little rude yesterday evening. I am pretty wound up about other things atm...

With this i mind i forgive you
Sorry to hear of your woes... Far too much thieving goes on these days with little consequences imo

 

[mhead bee]

Mhead, I can see that you disagree with those views mentioned in your post, as do I, well some of them anyway, but argue the point and win the argument, there really is no need for personal insults and it just weakens your own, very often, strong position. You cannot say that a view of 'we are not good enough for top two is wrong', it may turn out to be wrong or right, who knows. Very often the same people who say 'look we are second we must be good enough' and anyone who says otherwise is a fool, but were also saying at the time that Swansea, when they were second, were not good enough and will fade, a view often expressed. That may be right, but at the moment Swansea are one point behind with 2 games in hand. Yes it will hopefully all turn around and with 12 games left we can get the upper hand again. For what its worth, I don't think we will finish top two, but I do think we will be in the play-offs and that we can win them, especially if have a full squad to choose from. I may turn out to be wrong and if you think so, then argue the point.

Agreed, but its not really the statement 'we are not good enough' that I am analysing, it is the tone of the posters who love to state this as fact when we are second along without other negative stuff.

 

[Delbee]

I think last night we missed Dasliva runs from deep and possibly Baptiste

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

After reading through some of the rubbish on here from last night (from both the RTB and the other one) I thought I’d put my twopenith now the dust has settled......first I don’t we played too badly last night and in fact we’ve played worse this season and won Norwich are decent and prob deserved it but we had our chances and didn’t take em (FKIN CANOS !!!) ....the Swansea result really rubbed our noses in it though....we have to win the next 2 this week or automatic is defo over but the real concern is that a few weeks ago we were virtually in the play offs whatever happened...that’s not the case now as Cardiff and Barnsley are steamrolling everyone and they could get automatic too so we need to need to get some wins ASAP just to keep em at bay....realistically it’s looking like play offs for us and we all know the love we have for those
plus points last night....mbeumo Reid Jensen and raya....the poor, canos ghoddos pinnock....we really miss Rico and JDS and until they’re back I think we always struggle....the seasons far from over but we need to dig deep....last night prob showed we aren’t as good as we like to think.....it’s a must win game v rovrum and it won’t be easy after their vital win last night

 

[ruislip bee]

I think last night we missed Dasliva runs from deep and possibly Baptiste

Sorry Del we can't possibly have missed Baptiste. He's never played!

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Everyone has a point of view, come the end of the season we will see who posted the more accurate posts.. After 46 games the table does not lie, I know i want that 2nd place for us, because my heart will not stand up to another playoff. We can all argue as much as we like, lets all hang on and hope by may that we will have reached the promised land.

 

[HantsBee]

Que sera sera....

 

[lanzabee]

I’m simply amazed at those so-called supporters on here, whose only interest seems to be very unsupportive.
It is by no means everyone, but there seem to be a fair few, who don’t post anything positive, but turn up when we lose.

Goodness knows what they would be saying, if we had lost last night, and we had slipped from 21st in the league to 22nd!!!

If you look objectively at last night.
Norwich played well.
They scored just one goal through individual brilliance. Even that crept through by the narrowest of fine margins, squeezing somehow in between Reid and Pinnock.
We defended quite well, and they didn’t turn any of their other chances into goals.
Norwich had to play well for 90 minutes, because they knew that we would threaten with a breakaway until the final whistle.
In that respect, they didn’t dominate us, they just played better on the night, which is what you would expect from them as the top club.

In the last 4 minutes, they were hanging on, with a debatable penalty decision against us, and a a debatable free kick against us for the melée in their goalmouth.
All small margins, which turn a game.

Yes, it is very disappointing to lose, but it’s not the end of the world. We are 2nd, and the permutations of who will win against who are endless.

The biggest thing is that I know this squad, TF and everyone in the club will keep on pushing towards promotion.
They know we have a real scrap on our hands as we enter the last quarter of fixtures.

However, I think we are in better position to deal with the challenge than last year.
Last year we were running into those last vital games with too much confidence and everyone in the media assuming we we nailed on for promotion.

This year, we have to really, really fight for it.

I just hope that the posters above, claiming to be supporters, who are moaning so negatively, don’t turn up hypocritically to cheer when we are promoted.
With their type of support, you’d think we were heading into the National League.

A lot of them couldnt cope with the Prem as we wouldnt be winning every week. Will be drawing up a lengthy Ignore list after last nights nonsense. Get a grip ffs.

 

[rebus]

Everyone’s ball. Everyone’s rules.

I beg to differ!

 

[lanzabee]

Perhaps best to have 2 matchday threads going forward. Vent Your Spleen v Back Your Team.

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Surely it got to change , but there again we may not need them as there is some very interesting games to come , none more so than the last 2 games . Brentford v Watford Swansea v Derby Bristol City v Brentford Watford v Swansea

Not sure I can take another play off, facing a re-surgent Cardiff or Barnsley, think I may have to sit in the garden and read a book or
something these play offs are taking years off my life!

 

[sonofabee]

Everyone’s ball. Everyone’s rules.

Can I have mine back mister, you’ve had it for years

 

[sonofabee]

After reading through some of the rubbish on here from last night (from both the RTB and the other one) I thought I’d put my twopenith now the dust has settled......first I don’t we played too badly last night and in fact we’ve played worse this season and won Norwich are decent and prob deserved it but we had our chances and didn’t take em (FKIN CANOS !!!) ....the Swansea result really rubbed our noses in it though....we have to win the next 2 this week or automatic is defo over but the real concern is that a few weeks ago we were virtually in the play offs whatever happened...that’s not the case now as Cardiff and Barnsley are steamrolling everyone and they could get automatic too so we need to need to get some wins ASAP just to keep em at bay....realistically it’s looking like play offs for us and we all know the love we have for those
plus points last night....mbeumo Reid Jensen and raya....the poor, canos ghoddos pinnock....we really miss Rico and JDS and until they’re back I think we always struggle....the seasons far from over but we need to dig deep....last night prob showed we aren’t as good as we like to think.....it’s a must win game v rovrum and it won’t be easy after their vital win last night

What a relief the Voice with his or maybe her diplomacy and common sense wasn’t intimidated and scared off by some of the menacing posts last night.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

If Swansea win both their games in hand were 5 points behind them. There’s 12 more games to go. With the exception of Norwich and possibly Watford we’re better than the rest.
We’ve still got a great chance of automatic.
Win eight of those 12 and we would be on 87 points even if we lost the other 4. Watford are on the same points as us and I bet they still fancy their chances. Swansea are sh*te and were lucky last night. We are still in a great spot. Believe!

 

[Doovster]

I think magic has a point didn't we do the
Same to Warburton when he was in a good position
Does the club really want Premier league football !!

Jesus just catching up on this thread. I was frustrated and angry last night, but some of the stuff on here is unbelievable.

This is one of my all time favourite pathetic posts ever. Are you seriously suggesting this or just fishing?

 

[marvelous007]

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I threw my can of beer at the television. Now she is not talking to me and switched off.

 

[SpiderBee]

My mistake, they snuck into the top 7 yesterday. I'll re-phrase, only our second defeat against any side in the current top 10!

They were not in the top 7 when we lost to them though

 

[Delbee]

Sorry Del we can't possibly have missed Baptiste. He's never played!

Yes I know he injured . But from a few times he’s been in the side sub or not he to me has run at teams in the middle area of the pitch

 

[SmiffyBee]

Curse of the 26.

That's the 5th time we have conceeded in the 26th minute in the past 3 seasons.

Buendia and Dykes (QPR) this season
Bogle (Derby), Norwood (Sheff U) and Morrison (Birmingham) in 18/19 season

We only won 1 of those 5 games.

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

After reading through some of the rubbish on here from last night (from both the RTB and the other one) I thought I’d put my twopenith now the dust has settled......first I don’t we played too badly last night and in fact we’ve played worse this season and won Norwich are decent and prob deserved it but we had our chances and didn’t take em (FKIN CANOS !!!) ....the Swansea result really rubbed our noses in it though....we have to win the next 2 this week or automatic is defo over but the real concern is that a few weeks ago we were virtually in the play offs whatever happened...that’s not the case now as Cardiff and Barnsley are steamrolling everyone and they could get automatic too so we need to need to get some wins ASAP just to keep em at bay....realistically it’s looking like play offs for us and we all know the love we have for those
plus points last night....mbeumo Reid Jensen and raya....the poor, canos ghoddos pinnock....we really miss Rico and JDS and until they’re back I think we always struggle....the seasons far from over but we need to dig deep....last night prob showed we aren’t as good as we like to think.....it’s a must win game v rovrum and it won’t be easy after their vital win last night

I just think we're Jekyll and Hyde. At our best - pass and move - we beat everyone in the league. Just recently, even in some games we have won, as you say, we have been static and disjointed. In this mode we can be undone by most on a bad day.

 

[Oceanbee]

Surely it got to change , but there again we may not need them as there is some very interesting games to come , none more so than the last 2 games . Brentford v Watford Swansea v Derby Bristol City v Brentford Watford v Swansea

Yes, it could all go down to one of those last match afternoons, with us all checking all the combinations and permutations of results.

I somehow think we’ve been there before, so am now fully trained for it!!!
Or perhaps not!

 

[hatfieldbee]

Agreed, but its not really the statement 'we are not good enough' that I am analysing, it is the tone of the posters who love to state this as fact when we are second along without other negative stuff.

And who never post when things are going well.

 

[Vid]

Settling down with my great nephew in Auckland via Zoom ( heading for higher ground now) to watch a game of football between two teams who are known for actually playing football. At the end of the game we felt flat , not because of the result but because it didn't live up to our expectations. It wasn't a great watch. Confirmed by my other half who supports QPHa. Looking at the stats for inspiration it seems it was an even game. The difference was Emiliano Buendía . Stats are weird as they showed the worse player on the pitch was Teemu Pukki . They are all here...Norwich City Brentford live score, video stream and H2H results - SofaScore
Onto the next one. It could be a lot worse. STOKE CITY v SWANSEA CITY | Oatcake Fanzine

 

[johnnym]

Apologies all for being a little rude yesterday evening. I am pretty wound up about other things atm...

Don’t worry I think most people are used to it.

 

[jlove]

Yes I know he injured . But from a few times he’s been in the side sub or not he to me has run at teams in the middle area of the pitch

He's played 9 minutes in the Championship...

 

[larrysigny]

Stats are weird as they showed the worse player on the pitch was Teemu Pukki .

Did the three/four times he threw himself on the ground count against him? Or was it that he didn't hit the target with a single shot?

 

[hairman]

Amazed at the way people are rounded upon if they post anything outside of the singular narrative that everything is great. How boring would a forum like this be if we could only post one opinion.

Relative to most of my years supporting this club, everything IS great at the moment and has been over the past 7 or 8 years. Never been so good at BFC. Some posters only emerge on the back of a defeat or poor performance (how many have I witnessed over the decades) or to slag off their pet hate players. To pick the team, spend someone else's money and carp about everything that happens to be their favourite hobby horse. Repeating their same poxy mantras ad-nauseam and ad-f***ing-infinitum. So yes, perhaps they should f*** off somewhere else where they'd be happier.

 

[Delbee]

Yes, it could all go down to one of those last match afternoons, with us all checking all the combinations and permutations of results.

I somehow think we’ve been there before, so am now fully trained for it!!!
Or perhaps not!

Away at Peterborough comes to mind when we were successful

 

[Castleview]

this is one of those myths that seem to pop up when a player has spent a long time out of the team. Reid is far more positive with his passing than Pontus ever was. Sorenson too..

Thank you for that. Perhaps I get a different view on TV to what I used to get from back of New Road halfway line.

 

[sonofabee]

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Anyway a friend of a friend came across some building materials and scaffolding poles 100% legit of course and I said I’d see if anyone interested.
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[beetee]

I think last night we missed Dasliva runs from deep and possibly Baptiste

Think we've been missing them for a while tbh... Dont think JDS has been at his best recently.

 

[beetee]

Perhaps best to have 2 matchday threads going forward. Vent Your Spleen v Back Your Team.

AKA bed wetters and bully boys

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Think we've been missing them for a while tbh... Dont think JDS has been at his best recently.

Problem with JDS recently has been that he hasn't trusted his body to support the force of the afterburners he normally uses to drive away from players. Rolls Royce engine with dodgy suspension.