Only four Premier League clubs accept police invitation to fight online racism

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I expected to see Bees amongst them.
Yes and they should too.
Who would be responsible for this particular area?

No point arguing about it if clubs don't want to help eradicate and identify the problem and work together.
4 clubs is not just disappointing, but disgraceful.
Hats off to the 4.
16 other clubs have a lot to learn.
 

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Yes and they should too.
Who would be responsible for this particular area?

No point arguing about it if clubs don't want to help eradicate and identify the problem and work together.
4 clubs is not just disappointing, but disgraceful.
Hats off to the 4.
16 other clubs have a lot to learn.
Before everyone piles in with their size 9s do we know the reason why we are not participating in this initiative? Agree I am surprised but suspect there is a good reason for it.
 

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Some of the wording suggests it is about supporting the players, I'm sure the majority of clubs already do support their players over racism.

The action needs to be a full 180 turn and looking out at those dishing it out! I suspect if the request for clubs was to get involved in targeting social media companies and those out their being racist, the uptake would have been higher.
 

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Before everyone piles in with their size 9s do we know the reason why we are not participating in this initiative? Agree I am surprised but suspect there is a good reason for it.
Exactly. There could be a lot of reasons for this. Maybe some clubs are still waiting for the police to responds to the club's request for help.

When I read the same article in the Guardian yesterday the headline was "Only three Premier League clubs respond..." so maybe we should give it some time.
 

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Exactly. There could be a lot of reasons for this. Maybe some clubs are still waiting for the police to responds to the club's request for help.

When I read the same article in the Guardian yesterday the headline was "Only three Premier League clubs respond..." so maybe we should give it some time.
It could be true, but the problem I have with the media is that they are always looking to make a storey out of nothing, so I don't believe all I read. This makes a great headline, but the facts will come out over time as you say.
 

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Before everyone piles in with their size 9s do we know the reason why we are not participating in this initiative? Agree I am surprised but suspect there is a good reason for it.
Absolutely. I have complete faith in the club doing what they feel the best way is to combat online racism. I've no doubt that if they choose not to respond to this initiative, it will not be through lack of care, rather they have identified better ways of dealing with the issue.
 

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I think certain events from the last 12 months evidence how serious the club is about dealing with online racism so one Guardian article isn't going to convince me that we've somehow dropped the ball.
 

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Before everyone piles in with their size 9s do we know the reason why we are not participating in this initiative? Agree I am surprised but suspect there is a good reason for it.
If we don't know what the reason is then we should be told.
If the club has decided not to participate then tell us why.
Knowing that this is a newsworthy item that will surface eventually and cause a reaction.
Nothing to do with weighing in with size 9s, but simply questioning the clubs stance here.
 

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If we don't know what the reason is then we should be told.
If the club has decided not to participate then tell us why.
Knowing that this is a newsworthy item that will surface eventually and cause a reaction.
Nothing to do with weighing in with size 9s, but simply questioning the clubs stance here.
Well you made a number of assumptions in your original post including the remaining 16 clubs have a lot to learn? That represents a size 9 in my book. Hopefully the club will tell us in due course.
 

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If we don't know what the reason is then we should be told.
If the club has decided not to participate then tell us why.
Knowing that this is a newsworthy item that will surface eventually and cause a reaction.
Nothing to do with weighing in with size 9s, but simply questioning the clubs stance here.
Maybe they think the suggested approach is half-arsed, but it wouldn’t help matters if they went public with that line!
 

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Well you made a number of assumptions in your original post including the remaining 16 clubs have a lot to learn? That represents a size 9 in my book. Hopefully the club will tell us in due course.
I doubt it as the invitation went out in July and has only surfaced in October.
Maybe we need 3 plus months to think this one through.
Maybe not.
Whatever though is we are not part of the 4 and this is on Police invitation.
At least someone in authority is taking it seriously and this is an invite for all to work together, pull together and try something out that is unique and positive steps forward.
I understand what BFC has done with our own internal problems, but this is the bigger picture and maybe that is where this particular area of racism can be tackled.
Players need protection here.
Can we ask the police to get involved if we are not interested in involvement with the police?
They have stepped forward and it looks like a number of clubs have decided to step back, turn away or are just not interested.
We can ask questions here.
Like I say I hats off to those that have responded positively.
 
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I suspect that this initiative may be duplicating what we already have in place.
Whatever valid and thought through reasons we have, one would hope that someone from the Brentford team would respond back to the police to explain what the club are doing. And of course they may have done exactly this, but that fact has not come out in the reporting (reporting which may be about creating a newsworthy headline).
 

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I’d like to think all clubs would respond “yes”….given the time to respond.

The story really makes me suspicious that the initial request was either made very late in the day before publication, or with a very poor overall presentation.
Meaning this would discourage clubs from responding and thinking it’s a genuine cause - as they get tons of requests for support/money every day from all over the world.
 

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The club's must accept the protocol, or reject it. "In place" is not a working procedure.
I searched for "protocol" in the article and couldn't find that word. So no idea which protocol you are referring too.

“Only 49 have come back with a positive response saying they wish to engage,” Roberts told Sky News. “So far only eight clubs have facilitated us getting the officers, PFA [Professional Footballers’ Association] and Kick It Out [anti-discrimination body] in to speak to the players.

What is to say that we haven't "facilitated" this already, and that the police are johnny-cum-latelies to the party?
 

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It’s a provocative article that, from an unreliable source of “news”.

The police themselves were at BCS this week giving a talk on anti-discrimination were they not?
 

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I'm guessing here, but it's highly possible that in terms of the article, "Thank you for the offer, but we are already in discussions with our local force and this may well duplicate what we are already doing. May we wish you the best of luck in your endeavours." would have been seen as a negative response.
 

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I searched for "protocol" in the article and couldn't find that word. So no idea which protocol you are referring too.

“Only 49 have come back with a positive response saying they wish to engage,” Roberts told Sky News. “So far only eight clubs have facilitated us getting the officers, PFA [Professional Footballers’ Association] and Kick It Out [anti-discrimination body] in to speak to the players.

What is to say that we haven't "facilitated" this already, and that the police
I searched for "protocol" in the article and couldn't find that word. So no idea which protocol you are referring too.

“Only 49 have come back with a positive response saying they wish to engage,” Roberts told Sky News. “So far only eight clubs have facilitated us getting the officers, PFA [Professional Footballers’ Association] and Kick It Out [anti-discrimination body] in to speak to the players.

What is to say that we haven't "facilitated" this already, and that the police are johnny-cum-latelies to the party?
Possibly. Who's to say. I never saw the word "facilitated" in my comment either.
 

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Possibly. Who's to say. I never saw the word "facilitated" in my comment either.
It appears in the article. "Protocol" doesn't. Hence my question as to what is this protocol you are referencing.
 

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Well that's a surprise. Not!

No doubt @liverbee can explain that "the club's must accept the protocol, or reject it. "In place" is not a working procedure." - whatever that means.
Maybe you can explain why you're allowing racist handles on this platform, all of a sudden.
 

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Can you point them out please . PM will do.

You need to sort that poster out, IMHO. His ludicrous trolling of this site (first his pathetic comments on the suspects in that attack on an elderly woman near the stadium, and now this crap) clearly breaches the GPG code of conduct 😡
 

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....a bunch of fannies singing songs about cocks.....big hard men then eh.
Hope they don’t enjoy their day out. It’ll be the last game they’ll probably ever go to, given that the Met Police have tweeted that they are investigating it already, and the anti-Semitic w*nkers are so thick, they filmed themselves breaking the law and then uploaded it to Twitter ✊🏻💦 Lots of clear shots of the faces of the perpetrators at the end - I’m gonna go for a dawn door knock by the police the week before Xmas 👍
 

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Hope they don’t enjoy their day out. It’ll be the last game they’ll probably ever go to, given that the Met Police have tweeted that they are investigating it already, and the anti-Semitic w*nkers are so thick, they filmed themselves breaking the law and then uploaded it to Twitter ✊🏻💦 Lots of clear shots of the faces of the perpetrators at the end - I’m gonna go for a dawn door knock by the police the week before Xmas 👍
.....yep.... exactly..... always someone or something bigger than you..... absolute clowns.
 

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And where WHU's scummy fans go, Chelsea's equivalents follow;

Chelsea fan jailed for anti-Semitic tweets aimed at Spurs supporters

Note that this arsewipe was reported by a WBA fan and followed up by Chelsea's in-house security team, which is something, I suppose.

Eight weeks in the clink - the very minimum which should apply, Id say.
 
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