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I was excited by the return of Lloyd Owusu, but now, after many games in, sitting pretty in 4th (somehow), and playing like sh*t, having not scored in 3 league games is worrying me. Lloyd Owusu meant goals to lots of people, including me. But 1 goal this season? I know he hasn't had good balls to him and is not getting good passes, but still, for a player on top wages (for us), probably the same as Deon Burton's, he hasn't done much? If Martin decides to drop him, which probably won't happen, as Martin brought him here thinking he would score goals (not with the way we bloody play), then would we be better without him? Last season, we would have wanted Owusu, this season, I know who I'd prefer out of Burton and Owusu...
Is the January transfer window approaching that fast?
 

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Cue the insults but send the useless piece of sh*t back to non league

How many bucket collections does it take each month to pay his weekly wage
 
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Bearing in mind he's on about £1000 a week, 4. But the collections go to BU...

D Block, I presume that's the Braemer D-Block right :rolleyes:
 

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Cambpell, Rankin next time. Cambpell was one of the more interested players today and mabye could of nicked a goal but Owusu ?!?!?!? What is it with him and heading backwords all the time from a long ball straight to their keeper. At least head it back to midfield or across to Cambpell/ Rankin.
 

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Ronan_UK said:
Bearing in mind he's on about £1000 a week, 4. But the collections go to BU...

D Block, I presume that's the Braemer D-Block right :rolleyes:

I think the consensus figure is £1500, so that's 4 to 6 bucket collections :eek:
 

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I could accept a passionate display but still being pants lke Rankin today but from Lloyd there was nothing, no desire, passion or commitment, he may not be getting the balls but he needs to get into the gbame if this isnt happening, drop deep to get the ball , mskr himself available, he's a disgrace right now.
 
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The Def Lizard said:
Very Poor start from Owusu although the service is appaling.
Maybe a spell on the bench will do him the world of good?

Maybe dropped from the squad would wake him up out of his love-ride? Stop bumbling along and snap out of it and put some effort in, track back, make tackles, show commitment.
 
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Adam said:
Cambpell, Rankin next time. Cambpell was one of the more interested players today and mabye could of nicked a goal but Owusu ?!?!?!? What is it with him and heading backwords all the time from a long ball straight to their keeper. At least head it back to midfield or across to Cambpell/ Rankin.

Pre-game upon the news that DJ would start, I said the sensible option would be Rankin and DJ, and drop Owusu, but what would happen is Owusu and DJ would start. Martin Allen, it's about time that boy got his full league debut you say? Why not kill two birds with one stone and drop Owusu to wake him up? A young lad, challenging Owusu? Will Owusu try harder?

Recently, everyone's forgotton, or had no reason to use :owusu:, and rightly so.
 

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The man is ssooooooo frustrating.
Fitz might even be better option at the moment!!! How bad is that?
 

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hanworthbee said:
I could accept a passionate display but still being pants lke Rankin today but from Lloyd there was nothing, no desire, passion or commitment, he may not be getting the balls but he needs to get into the gbame if this isnt happening, drop deep to get the ball , mskr himself available, he's a disgrace right now.

What more do you want from him? He ran his arse off today and won more than his fair share of flick ons. What is the point in him dropping deep? It just means more work for him when he has to run back 30 yards to collect the route one ball that has been played over his head. But if you think that constitutes passion and commitment, then fair enough...

Why is he a disgrace? Because he hasnt scored many? All the games I have seen this season have not been played to any of our strikers strengths.
You dont see Arsenal playing long high balls to Henry, because a) he is supreme at running at defenders, and b) sh*t with his head. Not saying Owusu is the best in the world at running at defenders, but he is better at that than putting his head on a high ball. We cant expect to score goals by hoping our players adapt to Wimbledon style, sh*t, lazy tactics.
 

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The Def Lizard said:
Very Poor start from Owusu although the service is appaling.
Maybe a spell on the bench will do him the world of good?

Maybe it would but your comments about the service he receives is spot on. This ****ing long ball game does not suit him or anyone else in the team:sad: get the ball on the floor, we are becoming more like the 'Downes old days' :(
 

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No point getting on Owusu's back at the end of the day he will be the man that gets us in the playoffs or Promotion or on form survive relegation!!! Lets face it Rankin is just a joke and Dj is pointless without support so the best we can do is carry on being patient and giving him some support which might help the confidence but i supose it could be said that it's all rather pointless as he can't play the sort of football MA insists on playing
 

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jonny c said:
What more do you want from him? He ran his arse off today and won more than his fair share of flick ons. What is the point in him dropping deep? It just means more work for him when he has to run back 30 yards to collect the route one ball that has been played over his head. But if you think that constitutes passion and commitment, then fair enough...

Why is he a disgrace? Because he hasnt scored many? All the games I have seen this season have not been played to any of our strikers strengths.
You dont see Arsenal playing long high balls to Henry, because a) he is supreme at running at defenders, and b) sh*t with his head. Not saying Owusu is the best in the world at running at defenders, but he is better at that than putting his head on a high ball. We cant expect to score goals by hoping our players adapt to Wimbledon style, sh*t, lazy tactics.


I agree with a lot of your points, I for one did see Owusu trying everything today, as for criticising his flick ons which went through to the goalie, what is he meant to do, he is jumping with another defender at his back and it is up to DJ/Rankin to react to the flicks, Owusu can only win the headers. I think a spell on the bench would do him good because at the mo. he is so shot of confidence, that bringing him on with 20mins to go might be what he needs to change a game.
 

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Owusu is the wrong type of player for MA's tactics. He's not the 'target man' MA thinks he should be. Would've been better off getting in a player like Mooney (now at Wycombe) if MA is playing 'aimless ball football'. I said before season started (making the point again) that everyone seemed to expect too much from Owusu. He's not the goal machine people thinks he is. I posted that i bet after 10-15 games he'll be on 1 goal and getting the stick, which is now coming his way. Owusu needs a big man along side him too, like BBB was. Simple.
 
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wanderer paul said:
Owusu needs a big man along side him too, like BBB was. Simple.

Very true. I think Owusu scored so many that season was because BBB was supplying quality balls through to him, after decent midfield posession.
Maybe a 4-4-1-1 might be the way to go? Time for MA to have a look at his squad and his tactics after today and change some things round.
 

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wanderer paul said:
Owusu is the wrong type of player for MA's tactics.

I'm struggling to think who would be the right type of player. Kevin Francis and Peter Crouch are the only two that spring to mind immediately.
 
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the only times he looked threatening was when he ws running with the ball, martin he is NOT A TARGET MAN
 

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He tried hard today and won a fair share of balls but he still looks half a yard off the pace to me, if he is training as hard as MA says then it is hard to understand why. I remember under Wally the players looked knackered half the time and some said they might be overtraining... could be the same today??

I thought DJ looked out if his depth a bit as well. Give him the ball and sight of goal and he knows what to do but his all round poistional play and anticipation of Owusu's flick ons etc was poor, at best they need more time together.
 

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loyalbee said:
the only times he looked threatening was when he ws running with the ball, martin he is NOT A TARGET MAN

yes yes yes!!

look back at old goals of the season videos - how many goals did he score from heading from in 6 yards? not many...
how many goals did he score from running and slotting it home? LOTS

so why are we playing entirely the wrong tactics for him :confused:
 

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Maybe any tactics are wrong for him............these "goals" you keep on about were five years + ago. He's done F**k all since anywhere.

Never go back.
 

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he scored 20+ just 3 years ago...

i'm always a fan of playing a "big man, little man" front two - i think lloyd has suffered in his career in that, due to his size, he is thought of as a "big man" but actually plays as a "little man"...
 

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I happen to think there were signs of the old Lloyd today, couple of times he received the ball to feet and went on to beat people, and he is getting in the right positions to score, he just needs to compose himself a little more.
Owusu does have goals in him but it may be a while until he comes out of his goal drought...
 

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loyalbee said:
the only times he looked threatening was when he ws running with the ball, martin he is NOT A TARGET MAN


Totally agree he's not a target man, but I also can't agree that the only time he looked threatening was when running at defenders!! From my memory, they ever took it off his feet or he blasted it over the bar/miskicked it from inside the area!!

At least we didn't have to watch him being sick!!

Maybe a few early nights and less djing would do him good.
 

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I was also encouraged by his performance yesterday. Much more of getting the ball and running at defenders. He may have smashed one or two over from the edge of the box but at least he was having a go which was in contrast to previous games.
 

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I do beleive that Owusu has the ability to score goals again but like most on here cannot undersatnd MA's tactics which are all to the detriment of ALL our forwards. Play the ball to feet and use the width of the path and i could see a partnership of Lloyd and Fitz being very succesful. Continue with the same style that we have seen since Martin took over and i cannot see any of our forwards ever getting a goal.
 

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christom said:
I do beleive that Owusu has the ability to score goals again but like most on here cannot undersatnd MA's tactics which are all to the detriment of ALL our forwards. Play the ball to feet and use the width of the path and i could see a partnership of Lloyd and Fitz being very succesful. Continue with the same style that we have seen since Martin took over and i cannot see any of our forwards ever getting a goal.
Agree,

I defy anyone to assess how good DJ is when yesterday he received the ball up round his earoles at 100mph bar 3/4 occasions when on the deck, but behind him while he was back to goal. I'd persis with Lloyd and Dj and order Brooker and Tillen to get wide and get crosses in.
 

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Perhaps if he was allowed to play facing the opponents goal around the edge of the box instead of his back to goal on the edge of the centre circle......

I dn't think MA did his homework properly on this one. If he'd looked at videos of his previous stint here then he'd know how he should be played.
 

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Don't think anyone played well yesterday - but I did think Owusu did OK. Created the best moment in the match (for us) with the run and ball to DJ in the first half, and tried all game I thought.

But overall it won't matter who's playing up front. If we don't do something about the way we play (shape, organisation, tactics yesterday? Were there really any?) no one'll score goals for us.
 

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South Wales Bee said:
I think the consensus figure is £1500, so that's 4 to 6 bucket collections :eek:

Owusu I'm afraid to say is on the same as Burton was, £3000 a week!!!! :confused:
 

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Owusu I'm afraid to say is on the same as Burton was, £3000 a week!!!! :confused:

Wrong.
 

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abee said:

Do enlighten us!
However, I understand that you may find it vulgar to talk about other peoples earnings. If so, you could have qualified your answer by saying that you do not believe it to be your place to discuss this.
 

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If Allen is gonna lump it, play Marcus Gayle. I personally wasnt over excited when Owusu re - signed, he isnt sharp anymore and his pace is no longer a big asset. His karate style miskick on the half way line touchline was embarrasing he was so late and off pace of the player the whole ground laughed.
 

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brentwood-bee said:
Owusu I'm afraid to say is on the same as Burton was, £3000 a week!!!! :confused:

I was under the impression that Burton was on around £1500 per week but i dunno for sure
 

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Jezybee said:
Do enlighten us!
However, I understand that you may find it vulgar to talk about other peoples earnings. If so, you could have qualified your answer by saying that you do not believe it to be your place to discuss this.

Owusu is on nothing like £3k per week. I am not prepared to tell what his basic and other incentives are as BFC has traditionally kept these things private. It's always amazing to me that we know the contract lengths and basic salaries of most Premiership players but everything at BFC is a secret and let's face it we haven't even been allowed to know what was McGlashans pay-off that we are contributing to.

You can believe me or not regarding Owusu......most people on the GPG choose not to but I was just nipping the £3k per week story in the bud that's all.
 

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As far as I can see, the only reason why he isn't scoring is because of the lack of opportunities he is getting. All we ever seem to play is long balls, which aren't working. Yesterday's match we played the ball along the ground and look what happened, he scored a quality strikers goal and was dangerous throughout the game.

We all thought Burton was useless at scoring goals, but look how he's now doing at Rotherham, he's banging 'em in, which has got to be something to do with the service he is getting.

I'm delighted Lloydie's playing for us again :) Let's just hope we continue to play decent football and not all this hoofing business.

:owusu: :owusu:
 

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BuzzBeeSi said:
As far as I can see, the only reason why he isn't scoring is because of the lack of opportunities he is getting. All we ever seem to play is long balls, which aren't working. Yesterday's match we played the ball along the ground and look what happened, he scored a quality strikers goal and was dangerous throughout the game.

We all thought Burton was useless at scoring goals, but look how he's now doing at Rotherham, he's banging 'em in, which has got to be something to do with the service he is getting.

I'm delighted Lloydie's playing for us again :) Let's just hope we continue to play decent football and not all this hoofing business.

:owusu: :owusu:

Well said (other than Burton seems to have stopped banging them in lately).
 

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absolutely delighted for lloydie yesterday....spoke to him a few weeks ago and he was not too enamoured with our style of play and was ' not what the gaffer promised me when i signed'....he couldn't wait for newman to get into the side as he was great at picking the right sort of pass for him to run on to...its not like lloyd was missing loads of chances he just wasnt getting anything like a decent service..lets hope this is the start of ramming some of the previous criticisms down peoples throats...no doubt they will all be chanting owusuuuuuuu when he finally breaks his gp duck !!!
 

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Lloyd was definitely not offside as the right back was playing him on. It was his speed that made it look otherwise.
 
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