Play-Off Ticket Arrangements Announced

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How best do you think the club should handle Extra Special Supporters who you or they think they deserve to get tickets regardless of any guidelines or factors that every single other supporter has to follow?
He can have my ticket.
 

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Got a mate who Bill knows well hasn't got a ticket. Lifelong 1967 etc the walk. Regardless of anything imho he should have had a ticket.
He could have had a ticket though couldn’t he.
All he had to do was get a ST and go to a handful of away games in the last few years. His choice not to do that.
BTW, for the seven millionth time, how on earth would the club ever verify claims of lifelong support and devotion without any actual evidence.
Maybe you could volunteer to create an official BFC committee to issue ‘honest, I really am a loyal supporter of many decades but can’t be arsed to do anything that would help me get tickets for big matches’ certificates.
 

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I am disgusted. He has never stopped going. I been 62 plus years and he is same. Came to my aid one night at Craven Cottage at a London Challenge Cup Final Replay. Helmet glinting like a rapier as Fulham hit the floor.
If he hasn’t stopped going and hasn’t enough points, then that’s his fault for not topping up his points.
Or not applying for this game
 

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If he hasn’t stopped going and hasn’t enough points, then that’s his fault for not topping up his points.
Or not applying for this game
So it comes down to his fault. Its not about loyalty. Its about being comp literate and understanding, or trying to all the gobblygook. He is trying for ballot. He can have my ticket if he wants.
 

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No, there is no argument for that. There would be no reason to have a TAP system.

Christ on a bike.
The tiers I was thinking of would be based on TAPs and STs! So the ST+3000 group wouldn’t be guaranteed a seat but still have a much higher chance of getting one than mere STs with fewer TAPs and that group would still have a better chance than those with a decent number of TAPs but no ST (the last lot having no chance of a ticket to the SF). It makes TAPs more valuable and rewarded, not less and would mean all but the most casual fans would have a chance to attend the final. From the threads there does seem to be quite a lot of folk who go to a lot of games and have a lot of TAPs but don’t have a ST. It makes sense to have reserved all the tickets for the home game to STs but maybe we don’t have to exclude those who eg decided to take a total/partial ST refund for Wembley.
 

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So it comes down to his fault. Its not about loyalty. Its about being comp literate and understanding, or trying to all the gobblygook. He is trying for ballot. He can have my ticket if he wants.
You can’t transfer your ticket. But more seriously, as the club will have a number of tickets for its own use it might be worth seeing if he could get one on a discretionary basis that way, maybe by contacting the likes of Peter Gilham (if your mate did all that back in 67 he’d probably be known to him). Worth a try?
 

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So it comes down to his fault. Its not about loyalty. Its about being comp literate and understanding, or trying to all the gobblygook. He is trying for ballot. He can have my ticket if he wants.
Im sorry, yes it is.
What gobbledygook ? Has never rang the club, purchased tickets in person or got someone to do it for him if he cant do it online ?

How has he purchased tickets up until covid ?

Did he go to the ticket office & simply hand over his season card with his details on it for them to log in without even asking for anything ? Thats all it takes.
Did he phone the ticket office with his season ticket number ? Thats all he needed.
Did he get someone else to book his tickets for him ? same thing applies, they would have given his card number alone to the ticket office, job done. No other details needed to add to his TAP's.
When setting up a season ticket we all have to give the necessary details. They in turn give a season card with a number on it. Its beyond simple & goes towards rightfully prioritising your mate.

If he hasnt done any of that then im afraid it is his fault.

Stop blaming the club when they have done the right thing in creating a TAP system that guarantees your mate before nearly everyone it seems, for him, again it seems, to almost go out of his way to not build up his points, when it is beyond simple to do so with the different avenues to do it.
 

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Mori we could have a whole thread detailing fans that “ deserve” tickets, could start with me having been a supporter since 1957 and a ST holder for over 40 years up to this season.

However there is a criteria that is pretty fair and transparent that rewards those fans that have built up TAPS by attending games plus there is also a lottery to give others a chance.

I am pleased that you will be giving him your ticket, probably as well as in the past you said you would not be going to LR !!!

There will be fans disappointed that they have not got tickets and, should we get there, even more will be disappointed not to go to the final, however we live in strange times and it is right that those with high TAPS get first dibs
 

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The tiers I was thinking of would be based on TAPs and STs! So the ST+3000 group wouldn’t be guaranteed a seat but still have a much higher chance of getting one than mere STs with fewer TAPs and that group would still have a better chance than those with a decent number of TAPs but no ST (the last lot having no chance of a ticket to the SF). It makes TAPs more valuable and rewarded, not less and would mean all but the most casual fans would have a chance to attend the final. From the threads there does seem to be quite a lot of folk who go to a lot of games and have a lot of TAPs but don’t have a ST. It makes sense to have reserved all the tickets for the home game to STs but maybe we don’t have to exclude those who eg decided to take a total/partial ST refund for Wembley.

If ticket distribution was solely done using the TAP then those who are More regular will be higher up the list, those less regular will be after.
And it will stop any casual fans getting a ticket.
Simple as that.
 

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Im sorry, yes it is.
What gobbledygook ? Has never rang the club, purchased tickets in person or got someone to do it for him if he cant do it online ?

How has he purchased tickets up until covid ?

Did he go to the ticket office & simply hand over his season card with his details on it for them to log in without even asking for anything ? Thats all it takes.
Did he phone the ticket office with his season ticket number ? Thats all he needed.
Did he get someone else to book his tickets for him ? same thing applies, they would have given his card number alone to the ticket office, job done. No other details needed to add to his TAP's.
When setting up a season ticket we all have to give the necessary details. They in turn give a season card with a number on it. Its beyond simple & goes towards rightfully prioritising your mate.

If he hasnt done any of that then im afraid it is his fault.

Stop blaming the club when they have done the right thing in creating a TAP system that guarantees your mate before nearly everyone it seems, for him, again it seems, to almost go out of his way to not build up his points, when it is beyond simple to do so with the different avenues to do it.
Have not blamed the club.
 

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If ticket distribution was solely done using the TAP then those who are More regular will be higher up the list, those less regular will be after.
And it will stop any casual fans getting a ticket.
Simple as that.
Yes, though that isn’t what has happened for the SF where STHs have been allowed in the ballot regardless of TAPs and ST-less people with even higher numbers of TAPs than the STHs guaranteed a seat have not been given the opportunity of entering the ballot at all. Which was the entire point of my suggestion.
 

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Yes, though that isn’t what has happened for the SF where STHs have been allowed in the ballot regardless of TAPs and ST-less people with even higher numbers of TAPs than the STHs guaranteed a seat have not been given the opportunity of entering the ballot at all. Which was the entire point of my suggestion.
Should have just stuck with the TAP then and not done a ballot.
 

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The events of life which can cause such disparity. Every dream can be a journey away or a fall from height.
 

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Your complaining and sharing your disgust that someone whos been going all the time since the 60s hasnt got a ticket.
Who else is it aimed at ?
I think you have an inbuilt thought that the club are too blame. If you look hard you can see the difficulties in life.
 

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I think you have an inbuilt thought that the club are too blame. If you look hard you can see the difficulties in life.

Mori.
Youve come on here, a play off ticket arrangement thread, expressing your disgust at how your mate whos been going everywhere since the 60s cant get a ticket on priority, & has to go through the ballot.

how have i got the inbuilt thought to the blame the club ?
Look at your posts
 

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I came on here to mention the disparity in life and the sadness of it at times. The ballot thing was just info. The club can't be held to blame as its the system they using. If you can think of a better fairer way which includes all please advise
 

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I came on here to mention the disparity in life and the sadness of it at times. The ballot thing was just info. The club can't be held to blame as its the system they using. If you can think of a better fairer way which includes all please advise
This is a football forum, and this thread is about tickets for the play-offs. So you are now well-off topic. Thanks for 3 pages of bullshit. We are done now.
 

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Mori.
Youve come on here, a play off ticket arrangement thread, expressing your disgust at how your mate whos been going everywhere since the 60s cant get a ticket on priority, & has to go through the ballot.

how have i got the inbuilt thought to the blame the club ?
Look at your posts

You have been sucked into the Mori vortex. A place where logic and rational thinking is enticed in but then regurgitated into a mind numbing, head scratching, ethereal conversation that no man can ever fathom nor win.
I feel your pain.
 

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I came on here to mention the disparity in life and the sadness of it at times. The ballot thing was just info. The club can't be held to blame as its the system they using. If you can think of a better fairer way which includes all please advise

You came on here going on about your mate who hasn’t got a ticket but should.


There is no fairer way. That’s the point.
 

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Lads (and ladies), this thread will be gold and provide much amusement to our future selves a few years down the track 😂
 

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My friend is a Bournemouth fan. They did a random season ticket ballot because they have a terrible points system. Here's what he told me:

"We just have points going back one season each year lol. 1 away game = 1 point. So because I missed a season being abroad I’m now miles down the away list despite having done loads over the last few years".

There's no "perfect" system but, compared to quite a few clubs it seems, ours actually goes back quite far (2013 iirc?) which does reward those who put the graft in attending more of the less appealing games over a sustained period.

The purpose of TAPs isn't to define or categotise "loyalty", it's to allocate tickets fairly when demand outstrips supply. That is the case for the semi final and will likely be the case for the final too. How many away (or even home games prior to the last few months at GP) do we actually come close to selling out? TAPs aren't an exclusive club like some are making out on here, it's fairly easy to accumulate a decent amount just by attending a few aways a season.

Worth remembering it's what, 4,000 odd tickets for this game and we haven't even been able to fill 2,800 for the 20 minute bus journey to QPR for the last few seasons.
 

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For proof of ticket holder, can we take our season cards which have our names & number on ?
 

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My friend is a Bournemouth fan. They did a random season ticket ballot because they have a terrible points system. Here's what he told me:

"We just have points going back one season each year lol. 1 away game = 1 point. So because I missed a season being abroad I’m now miles down the away list despite having done loads over the last few years".

There's no "perfect" system but, compared to quite a few clubs it seems, ours actually goes back quite far (2013 iirc?) which does reward those who put the graft in attending more of the less appealing games over a sustained period.

The purpose of TAPs isn't to define or categotise "loyalty", it's to allocate tickets fairly when demand outstrips supply. That is the case for the semi final and will likely be the case for the final too. How many away (or even home games prior to the last few months at GP) do we actually come close to selling out? TAPs aren't an exclusive club like some are making out on here, it's fairly easy to accumulate a decent amount just by attending a few aways a season.

Worth remembering it's what, 4,000 odd tickets for this game and we haven't even been able to fill 2,800 for the 20 minute bus journey to QPR for the last few seasons.
This is my first post on here but sorry you make it sound so easy I’m lifelong fan that was told if purchased a season ticket in 2013 I would get first dibs with the points system I go to 2 or 3 away games a season included all but 1 of them QPR games as I had a new born on life support. Shes 4 now and has been to old griffin park like my dad you have to start them early. I have 2987 points. I wrung to complain Cos I haven’t even had an email telling me about ballot .
So from point of view you have a ballot for all ticket or none.
 

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So what time is the main event tomorrow.....news of the ballot?
 

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This is my first post on here but sorry you make it sound so easy I’m lifelong fan that was told if purchased a season ticket in 2013 I would get first dibs with the points system I go to 2 or 3 away games a season included all but 1 of them QPR games as I had a new born on life support. Shes 4 now and has been to old griffin park like my dad you have to start them early. I have 2987 points. I wrung to complain Cos I haven’t even had an email telling me about ballot .
So from point of view you have a ballot for all ticket or none.
Do you have a frozen season ticket for this season?
 

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Email just said the draw would be on Monday.
I doubt you will definitely hear on Monday. Suspect tickets will be ready to purchase Tuesday lunchtime and you won't hear much before then.
 

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I doubt you will definitely hear on Monday. Suspect tickets will be ready to purchase Tuesday lunchtime and you won't hear much before then.
Draw Monday, three Days for the successful ones 🤞 to purchase tickets, from Tuesday.
So pretty much what you said.
 

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This is my first post on here but sorry you make it sound so easy I’m lifelong fan that was told if purchased a season ticket in 2013 I would get first dibs with the points system I go to 2 or 3 away games a season included all but 1 of them QPR games as I had a new born on life support. Shes 4 now and has been to old griffin park like my dad you have to start them early. I have 2987 points. I wrung to complain Cos I haven’t even had an email telling me about ballot .
So from point of view you have a ballot for all ticket or none.

I dont think you were told just getting a seasonn ticket gives you first dibs.

How do all 10,000 season ticket holders get first dibs when theres limited seats ?

Your season ticket gets you some points.
And it guarantees your seat for all home league games.
You get First dibs on Home cup games but covid has put that out so the club can only do whats fair and use the TAP system.

That means those who do the most games overall get first dibs.

The club, or anybody, could not foresee and virus tearing round the world.

Ballot for is utter pony.
The club should have just solely stuck with the TAP system.

On the matter of you not receiving contact form the club. Yes, that is rubbish and u hope you were quick to let them know
 

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I dont think you were told just getting a seasonn ticket gives you first dibs.

How do all 10,000 season ticket holders get first dibs when theres limited seats ?

Your season ticket gets you some points.
And it guarantees your seat for all home league games.
You get First dibs on Home cup games but covid has put that out so the club can only do whats fair and use the TAP system.

That means those who do the most games overall get first dibs.

The club, or anybody, could not foresee and virus tearing round the world.

On the matter of you not receiving contact form the club. Yes, that is rubbish and u hope you were quick to let them know
thanks for explaining that Herbert
 

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I dont think you were told just getting a seasonn ticket gives you first dibs.

How do all 10,000 season ticket holders get first dibs when theres limited seats ?

Your season ticket gets you some points.
And it guarantees your seat for all home league games.
You get First dibs on Home cup games but covid has put that out so the club can only do whats fair and use the TAP system.

That means those who do the most games overall get first dibs.

The club, or anybody, could not foresee and virus tearing round the world.

Ballot for is utter pony.
The club should have just solely stuck with the TAP system.

On the matter of you not receiving contact form the club. Yes, that is rubbish and u hope you were quick to let them know

Herbert, this seems to make a bit more sense.
Why not tier it from above 3000 - first dibs (whatever that means - perhaps it means one qualifying STH plus 1 other STH. Between 2900 - 3000 second wave eg 1 qualifying STH plus 1 STH (excuse the terminology...!), 2800 - 2900 etc. Have I missed something?

I'm sure either way it's not easy to organise and we are living in unprecedented times and all that.
 

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Don’t doubt some deserving cases will miss out Mori with only circa 4K tickets available but how do you explain to a 20 year old who has been home and away for the last 8 years that they have to go in a ballot because someone who has been following Bees for 50 + seasons but not been in last couple of years has been given a ticket ahead of them?

I fall into the category of watching the Bees for over 60 years and went home and away for more years than I care to remember but I have not been able to attend quite so often during the past couple of years and consequently do not qualify for play off tickets. Yes it is disappointing but I have to agree entirely with Sonofabee's post and hope those lucky enough to attend do all they can to see the mighty Bees get over the line. :sorted:
 

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Herbert, this seems to make a bit more sense.
Why not tier it from above 3000 - first dibs (whatever that means - perhaps it means one qualifying STH plus 1 other STH. Between 2900 - 3000 second wave eg 1 qualifying STH plus 1 STH (excuse the terminology...!), 2800 - 2900 etc. Have I missed something?

I'm sure either way it's not easy to organise and we are living in unprecedented times and all that.
Your answering it yourself.
Its a hell of a lot of setting up for the club for something we dont know how long is going to last.
TAP system in place. That we all know about.
 

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Your answering it yourself.
Its a hell of a lot of setting up for the club for something we dont know how long is going to last.
TAP system in place. That we all know about.
Taps is the only fair way but a ballot in my eyes has made that distorted. I was told on the phone by the club that this was put into place and voted for by Bees United. What I would like to know is how many of them that voted missed out on their ticket solely because of the ballot?! They should have just done a ballot on unsold tickets in my opinion.
 

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Taps is the only fair way but a ballot in my eyes has made that distorted. I was told on the phone by the club that this was put into place and voted for by Bees United. What I would like to know is how many of them that voted missed out on their ticket solely because of the ballot?! They should have just done a ballot on unsold tickets in my opinion.

Agree
 

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My friend is a Bournemouth fan. They did a random season ticket ballot because they have a terrible points system. Here's what he told me:

"We just have points going back one season each year lol. 1 away game = 1 point. So because I missed a season being abroad I’m now miles down the away list despite having done loads over the last few years".

There's no "perfect" system but, compared to quite a few clubs it seems, ours actually goes back quite far (2013 iirc?) which does reward those who put the graft in attending more of the less appealing games over a sustained period.

The purpose of TAPs isn't to define or categotise "loyalty", it's to allocate tickets fairly when demand outstrips supply. That is the case for the semi final and will likely be the case for the final too. How many away (or even home games prior to the last few months at GP) do we actually come close to selling out? TAPs aren't an exclusive club like some are making out on here, it's fairly easy to accumulate a decent amount just by attending a few aways a season.

Worth remembering it's what, 4,000 odd tickets for this game and we haven't even been able to fill 2,800 for the 20 minute bus journey to QPR for the last few seasons.

hardly anyone lives a 20minute bus journedy from shepherds bush......takes me an hour and half on public transport and im only 25 miles away......can we stop thinking that our support lives in or near tw8 as MOST live many miles away thesedays......its not the 1930s lol lol
 

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hardly anyone lives a 20minute bus journedy from shepherds bush......takes me an hour and half on public transport and im only 25 miles away......can we stop thinking that our support lives in or near tw8 as MOST live many miles away thesedays......its not the 1930s lol lol
We'd probably have a right to be more disappointed not taking big numbers to Reading, not QPR or Fulham.
 
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