Pontus Jansson

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@AB, you are my go-to legal expert on here, but in this case why would there need to have been an option in place, if both parties had consensually agreed the benefit of an extension. It feels like the club were simply making it a more 2-way agreement, rather than forcing the position themselves. INNWT !?
The benefit of a unilateral option is it doesn’t need further agreement. In practice, holding a player against their will on the basis of a unilateral contract extension term might be counterproductive (if they eg decide just to put in minimum effort and nevertheless force a move). In that case the extra term just helps to recoup some money via a transfer fee but the player still goes. It doesn’t seem to be a BFC approach though- eg we could have insisted on it with Odubajo and probably have got something. But if both are happy to extend, it removes/reduces the opportunity for the player to seek to renegotiate the terms and get more money as a condition of extending. Though the club might still agree that if it wants to.
 

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To be fair it doesn’t mean never. But it may be strained by the rumour strength ratings on a number of other players at the moment!
Also, there's no mention of us "taking up the option" as usually reported, just that he's signed a new contract. Easy assumption is that the "option" didn't include a pay rise, and this does, and there wasn't the further(/better) interest as expected by both parties.
Unless we're after a, what will be a fairly nominal, fee in the summer and PJ getting one last 'big' contract, he'll be going to Malmo end of next season.
 

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Almost certain that we will look to improve this area in the summer with Zanka out of contract and an indication that PG/TF don't see this as an urgent issue that needs addressing in Jan. I don't think we will see PJ quite so often next season should we be in the PL - pretty sure we will be looking to strengthen with a younger model with pace.
 

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The terms of that fell away. I assume he’s bagged himself more money than the original club option.
Good , much deserved it is too.
Would have been stupid beyond belief to let him leave until we are established in the prem , which we will be when his contract is up :sorted:
 

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Was it someone that needs to revisit what the definition of 'seldomly' is? 🤔
Am I missing something, he had an option for another year, Nana told everyone that had been binned amicably by both parties and now he’s signed a new one.
I’d love Nana to get something wrong but can’t see what he has this time.😕
 

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He’s been exposed at times this year with a lack of pace. No doubt.

For that reason, his injury record, and his age I expected him to move on this summer in a similar way to Dalsgaard last year.

In hindsight though I think both Henrik and the club probably regret that decision now and Pontus is an even more influential player. Now, with giving Pontus an extra year (even if it’s on fresh, juicier terms), we aren’t going to risk making the same mistake again.

Just hope it doesn’t block a move for another quality centre back, as I think we still need one.
 

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Sometimes a player contributes more than just his playing skills. Pontus is a leader, a physical presence and an inluencer. Teams need that and we all know how we cried out for a leader in the past. Don't bin him unless we have someone else who can provide those qualities.
 

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Good , much deserved it is too.
Would have been stupid beyond belief to let him leave until we are established in the prem , which we will be when his contract is up :sorted:
Will def be a useful squad option next year but hopefully we'll bring in better in the summer..
 

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Sometimes a player contributes more than just his playing skills. Pontus is a leader, a physical presence and an inluencer. Teams need that and we all know how we cried out for a leader in the past. Don't bin him unless we have someone else who can provide those qualities.
I like the guy and no doubt has great influence on those around him in the dressing room etc. But I'd like to see a bit more "leadership" when we're defending corners and other set pieces, rather than leave it to young replacment GK with no experience of the Prem. Our soft defending at set pieces is costing dear at the moment.
 

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Pontus is our skipper we have a inexperienced young goalie why is pontus not stepping up and organising and marshalling the defence from set plays ie corners because we are woeful.if he isn't able to do this why is he playing as not good enough at this level and like tuesday just getting in each others space.
Time to get back to a solid back 4 without pontus if he cant organise cant see what else he brings to our defense and it shows how much raya does in organising the defense is this slow ponderous centre half needed.
 

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Pontus is our skipper we have a inexperienced young goalie why is pontus not stepping up and organising and marshalling the defence from set plays ie corners because we are woeful.if he isn't able to do this why is he playing as not good enough at this level and like tuesday just getting in each others space.
Time to get back to a solid back 4 without pontus if he cant organise cant see what else he brings to our defense and it shows how much raya does in organising the defense is this slow ponderous centre half needed.
You cannot expect your centre back to do the keepers job for him. It's a totally different perspective on the game. This is the Premier League not Hackney Marshes you can't expect him to communicate for Alvaro. Pontus's wasn't responsible for any of the goals today, his defence was solid enough, his use of the ball was poor though.
 

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One thing about our recent problems with corners. Last year Toney cleared absolutely everything. Some of the best coaches in the world will have spotted that and are making it much harder for him to do so. Add a keeper who doesn't command his box and we've got problems. We're also have to defend probably 3 times as many corners as last year.
 

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Statistically, he was our least effective defender today, a significant variation between him and the two other CB's.
 

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Pontus is our skipper we have a inexperienced young goalie why is pontus not stepping up and organising and marshalling the defence from set plays ie corners because we are woeful.if he isn't able to do this why is he playing as not good enough at this level and like tuesday just getting in each others space.
Time to get back to a solid back 4 without pontus if he cant organise cant see what else he brings to our defense and it shows how much raya does in organising the defense is this slow ponderous centre half needed.
Should this be correct then perhaps comment on why he has just been given a contract extension is called for?
 

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Should this be correct then perhaps comment on why he has just been given a contract extension is called for?
Probably to stop him pissing and moaning until May. He wasn’t great out there but as has been said, neither was Pinnock.
 

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Should this be correct then perhaps comment on why he has just been given a contract extension is called for?
No idea why it was extended should of let his deal run out thanked him for his service and looked for someone younger quicker better to replace him.
 

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No idea why it was extended should of let his deal run out thanked him for his service and looked for someone younger quicker better to replace him.
Because he helped us get promoted and is our most experienced CB, who on his day is superb. Who do you expect us to sign, Joe Gomez or something?

Still much happier to see him starting for us than not, let's not pretend we're too good for Pontus suddenly.
 

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Because he helped us get promoted and is our most experienced CB, who on his day is superb. Who do you expect us to sign, Joe Gomez or something?

Still much happier to see him starting for us than not, let's not pretend we're too good for Pontus suddenly.
Not been superb for a while now been a great player for us but not good enough at this level.
We don't want to keep playing 5 at the back just to accomdate Pontus's lack of pace.
 

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We need to make 3-4 quality signings per year. The CB position is not a priority at all, so keeping our current ones (including Captain) makes sense for the time being.

18 more months of Jansson makes full sense. Hopefully when he does eventually move in our squad is at a much stronger point.
 

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Who was it who was insistent there was no contract extension option?
There was no option. You will note there is no reference to "option" in the BFC new story. HTH. :judge:

For someone that has some attention to detail, you've not done too well here. 😇
 
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Not at it at the mo, would be tempted to move Mads Bech central on Sat if Ajer comes in....
 

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I don't think he's going to get any quicker but he wasn't helped by Nørgaard's poor showing in front of him.
 

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Strange how he came over to the west stand and applauded before heading off back to the tunnel before the usual lap of honor by the rest of the team 🤔
 

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Strange how he came over to the west stand and applauded before heading off back to the tunnel before the usual lap of honor by the rest of the team 🤔

Stranger how he was embracing Christiano at half time like it was the end of the game.
 

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Stranger how he was embracing Christiano at half time like it was the end of the game.
It’s not uncommon for Pontus to do this sort of stuff and play mind games with opposition. Seen this before with other players this season and last
 

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What are the lyrics to his song? Please and thank you
PJ is magic, he's wears a magic hat
And if you throw a brick at him he'll head the f***er back
He heads it to the left
He heads it to the right (mimicking heading to left then right is optional but preferred)
And when we win the Premier league we'll sing this song all night
 

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PJ is magic, he's wears a magic hat
And if you throw a brick at him he'll head the f***er back
He heads it to the left
He heads it to the right (mimicking heading to left then right is optional but preferred)
And when we win the Premier league we'll sing this song all night
Elocution lessons for the west stand! :judge: I could only join in with the first line and last line. I like it. Looking forward to Noorgard‘s Belinda Carlisle ditty getting going
 

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Elocution lessons for the west stand! :judge: I could only join in with the first line and last line. I like it. Looking forward to Noorgard‘s Belinda Carlisle ditty getting going
I think it was lifted word-for-word from Leeds fans.
 

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It’s not uncommon for Pontus to do this sort of stuff and play mind games with opposition. Seen this before with other players this season and last
I think he just thought CR7 smelt nice to be honest...... ;)
 

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We need to make 3-4 quality signings per year. The CB position is not a priority at all, so keeping our current ones (including Captain) makes sense for the time being.

18 more months of Jansson makes full sense. Hopefully when he does eventually move in our squad is at a much stronger point.
Exactly this!

If we stay in the PL (or even if we don't) I expect the first 11 in three seasons time to feature only 2 or 3 of the current starters. As we did when we came up to the Championship we need to evolve and improve if we are to establish ourselves.
While we won't be buying £50m strikers we will need at least £10-15m players in every position.
 

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Probably to stop him pissing and moaning until May. He wasn’t great out there but as has been said, neither was Pinnock.
Don’t quite understand your apparent disdain for Pontus (and for Bjelland a few years back) but you seem to rate Bidwell despite the fact that whenever he has played against us he has spent most of his time either sitting on his backside or violently assaulting our players!
 

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Don’t quite understand your apparent disdain for Pontus (and for Bjelland a few years back) but you seem to rate Bidwell despite the fact that whenever he has played against us he has spent most of his time either sitting on his backside or violently assaulting our players!
I met Rebus about 15 years ago at a fans focus group and he was a miserable old git then 😂. I suppose he is years ahead of his time. 😉.
He also thinks Mads Bech isn’t any good. I tend to ignore his posts👍
 

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He's so important to our team, but that was pathetic defending for the first goal. Put a challenge in, don't put your hands behind your back and stop. Pinnock and MBS would be throwing themselves in the way of that one.
 

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I met Rebus about 15 years ago at a fans focus group and he was a miserable old git then 😂. I suppose he is years ahead of his time. 😉.
He also thinks Mads Bech isn’t any good. I tend to ignore his posts👍
I sat on the BU Board with him. He is a good few years younger than you oh and me. So I think the 'old' part of your post unfair. The rest of course is totally fair.....
 
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