hanworthbee
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Doesn't matter if they are a big club as they get big crowds as so do the likes of galatassary.... rangers are miles behind all PL teams and prob champ aswell
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Ealing Bee
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Except that they can persuade themselves that players only go for the money (and many do, tbf).Or Ajer leaves for Brentford
But when an ambitious, young(ish) manager leaves 60k crowds and guaranteed European qualification for what is in EPL terms a middling club, what does that say about the club they're leaving behind?
Meanwhile, Celtic got £12m compensation from little old Brentford for Ajer - far more than they got from Leicester for Rodgers.
jlove
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It’s the competitive nature of the Premier League that makes it attractive to international broadcast, something the Scottish Premiership will never have, no matter what the attendance is at two clubs.
Ealing Bee
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No doubt.
But the consequence of having been held back for 20 or 30 years, while the EPL has powered ahead, is that they're now miles behind.
Might be frustrating, unfair even, but it's an undeniable fact, which Jockophiles like Hartson don't want to admit.
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Soccer Saturday today. I found Tim Sherwood particularly ****ing annoying all afternoon.
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The w***ers on AstroSport for the Bees game.
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I was watching it with the sound low, while I watched Soccer Saturday, so can't comment, but you aren't the only one to mention that.
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They may as well have been fully paid up members of the ‘nothing wrong with Saudi blood money’ fan club.
Ian Crocker and Andy Walker, Sky Sports (Scotland) commentators
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Is Walker still banned from Ibrox? Both him and Crocker have existing form for biased commentary
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Carlton Cole wins the award for the w***iest comment ever form a pundit.
Billy Hunt
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Oh dear
He has never come across as an intelligent chap
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Good old Don Goodman called Andros Townsend - Troy Townsend in the pre match build up.
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Talking of the build up, there was pretty much none on our game.
Most of it was about the Chelsea v Man U game.
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Has Brentford split Don Goodman’s pint at some point? What a miserable piece of work. Never gives us any credit.
Actually on several occasions he seemed to echo my frustration at the team giving the ball away.... AGAIN....
I couldn't agree more. For me, Don Goodman called it out correctly every time. I find him one of the best commentators going. He called Ivan Toney as the MOM, and his explanation was absolutely spot on. He said Toney may not be getting a hatful of goals, but his all round play means that he is absolutely invaluable to us. He also called Canos's pass out to Toney as being poor, which is exactly what it was when we were on the break and although it found Toney it both went behind Toney as well as slowing the break. Also, towards the end he called out Mbuemo for trying a trick near the by line and in so doing he gave the ball back to Everton, when we just needed to gain control of the ball. These are just some examples of where he call it out correctly, even if it may upset some of us fans who are inclined to have blinkers on.
Didn’t Joey Barton say something similar recently?
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He did. And I believe he tried to double down on it before finally apologising.
I’m not sure if it’s the management thread or League 2 thread but the Joey Barton incident was discussed and consensus remains that he’s a complete scumbag with no redeeming features.
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With Rebus here. Can't stand the bloke as a player or a pundit. Not sure I'll be handing him a Pulitzer prize for making a couple of pertinent observations, he has very seldom had anything positive to say about our team or club in general.
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I've gone off Alex Scott now, after her comments on MOTD2.
I have just put this complaint in to the BBC after today's Match of the day.
YOUR COMPLAINT:
Total disrespect of the UK football pyramid
When Brentford v Everton was announced on Match of day we both was introduced as 'it might be tricky to our next game as the big sale' . Both teams haven't done well recently, however, if this was a male announcing a WSL game this would be outrageous. I am not quite sure how far this has disrespected the clubs involved, the Premier league, the efl, or anyone else involved. Total lack of respect deserves an apology.
YOUR COMPLAINT:
Total disrespect of the UK football pyramid
When Brentford v Everton was announced on Match of day we both was introduced as 'it might be tricky to our next game as the big sale' . Both teams haven't done well recently, however, if this was a male announcing a WSL game this would be outrageous. I am not quite sure how far this has disrespected the clubs involved, the Premier league, the efl, or anyone else involved. Total lack of respect deserves an apology.
Hippobee
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I think some people need to get out more, making a complaint.
It was indeed a game of poor quality, evidenced not only by watching it, but also by just about all on this thread! Both teams' form coming into this was the worst in the PL. I don't rate Alex Scott at all, but she has said what all neutrals would have thought.
One of those days where the win was far more important than quality or entertainment value.
hanworthbee
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Must be one of those new sayings as until Barton said it id never heard of having a bad day/game/work etc described as this
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Me neither
upnorthbee
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It was incredibly patronising from Alex Scott, not really sure it was called for whatsoever. Little laughs from Wright and Shearer too, crap production.
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Does anybody really care what any of those jokers say? They know and care nothing about us. We’re always better when we are underestimated and under the radar. Bring on the Spuds..
The highlighted comment pretty much undermines everything else you have said as it suggests that your issue is with Alex Scott's gender.
Disrespectful or humour/banter? Either way I can't imagine anyone other that a few Bees fans being a%sed to stay up and watch it. In truth is was always going to be a poor quality game where only the 3 points mattered and that's exactly what we got.
The same stuff gets said week in week out for the last game of the day, especially two teams around the bottom of the form table.
Mate, you need to get out more....
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I reckon that those who went came away happy with the win but recognising that it was not a good game. As I walked away from the match with my son, I commented that "that wasn't exactly the kind of match that will get stray punters flocking to us."
Alex Scott simply said what quite a lot of us thought, which is better than sticking to the party line in may view. I still think she's pretty good.
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They’re as held back by geography as they are reliant on it for being as big as they are. Had the Scots and English leagues been combined from the start they’d have been just the two biggest clubs in a city of 600k. They might have been Sheff U and Sheff W or the might have been Man C and Man U or Liverpool and Everton. Or they might have been Stoke and Port Vale.
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Maybe..we'd never know but in Celtic's case anyway I'm sure they'd have been ok. In fact I'd argue they'd have been much bigger, despite the standard of football the worldwide support stays in tact but imagine they were in a league worth billions playing a lot more big games than they are now.
As things stand they play in a poor league yet still sell out 60,000 every week, how Celtic was formed and the heritage attached to it would probably have attracted a larger active support amongst younger people over the years despite a high number anyhow if they were in a better league. If we're fair it's hard to follow a team not in one of the world's best leagues but Celtic and Rangers keep their numbers up and are impressive.
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cos it’s more about religion than football
Keep them, and Rangers, in the mess they’ve created
Rodney Marsh made a not too dissimilar quote and got quickly binned. Will Sky now bin Cole?
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Of course we’ll never know but my point was about the scenario in which there never was a separate professional league system in Scotland at least in the modern era. In that scenario the Old Firm might have been slumbering giants below the PL for many years. Obviously if you put them in the PL now they’d have a chance to be top clubs in the same way Newcastle have. But 60k attendances don’t equate to challenging in the CL and EL for PL clubs and their current squads would need big investment to do that. Bring them all into the English system in 1947 and they might be battling Sunderland in L1 while Aberdeen is an established PL club.
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I think you inferred the wrong things. He said that the other players should start taking advantage (ie scoring) of the work he does.
Cole's comment was actually made on BBC 5 Live I believe. It'll be interesting to see if they drop him now.
Ealing Bee
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It was exactly the sort of quip that Lineker would have made had he been hosting.
Indeed. When I saw the earlier comments. I thought Scott must have really laid into BFC.
Then when I fast-forwarded through the recording at lunchtime, I thought I must have missed something.
Does anyone really get worked up about something so trivial as that?
And did they all get "aroused" when the MOTD crew were saying nice things about us earlier in the season?
Ealing Bee
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Re your bold, it's true that Glasgow might have had two leading clubs in a GB league had they been there from the start..
But there's no guarantee they would have been Celtic and Rangers:
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Or who do you think built Hampden Park, at the time the biggest football stadium in the world?
"And if. You know. Your history..."
nocoat
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Just finally had a chance to watch MOTD. WTAF!! she did absolutely nothing wrong at all. I hope they reply and call you a silly billy.
she did absolutely nothing wrong at all. I hope they reply and call you a silly billy.
She’s no better or worse than most football presenters, but she probably edges it over Lineker or Chapman in the togged out in leather trousers stakes.Just finally had a chance to watch MOTD. WTAF!!
Balders Bee
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I actually think she's a decent presenter who does give decent insights.She’s no better or worse than most football presenters, but she probably edges it over Lineker or Chapman in the togged out in leather trousers stakes.
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Me too! I know I’m getting old, but I don’t understand what she’s supposed to have said. Watched it again and thought it was just a wishy-washy introduction…Just finally had a chance to watch MOTD. WTAF!!
hanworthbee
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She did nothing wrong... complaint should have been about maddison what a knob