Potential problems driving to the new Stadium

[hatfieldbee]

I completed my STH survey for the club advising that I had decided to be included in the ballot for matches to be played at Lionel Road - Tier decision permitting. I'd decided it would be safer for me, as a 70 year old, to drive instead of going by public transport, as on a matchday, the closer you got to Kew Bridge or Gunnersbury Station, the train would become more crowded.

As I hadn't been down to the area since the Sheffield Wednesday game, and read about the problems caused by Low Traffic schemes, especially in the Northfields area, Mrs hb and I had a drive out this afternoon to see what all the fuss was about, and whether I would be adversely affected on a matchday, bearing in mind I intended parking just North of the A4 in the Enfield Road area (as I had done for GP), and walk to LR.

My normal route involves, from Hanger Lane Gyratory, working through West Ealing down Argyle Road, Northfields Avenue driving along side roads towards my parking area. Sometimes use Boston Manor Road and Swyncombe Avenue. Imagine my surprise when we found the number of road turnings closed, so there is no access from, eg, Windmill Lane to South Ealing Road, nor also Boston Road to Northfields Avenue.

Also South Ealing Road is a mess due to major road works with also Popes Lane junction closed (another alternative from A406 to Brentford).

I, therefore, strongly suggest anyone coming by car to LR leaves PLENTY of extra time over and above what they used to, to find street parking where they used to for GP, otherwise we will be caught up in gridlock with drivers finding they can't get to where they want to. Have read already about Emergency vehicles getting lost in the chaos. Also, Ealing has a blanket 20mph speed limit!

You have been warned! Especially as, potentially, the 1st match will be Blackburn on Saturday week.

 

[hatfieldbee]

PS Does anyone who lives locally know:-
a) when South Ealing Road works are due to be completed, and
b) is London Borough of Ealing due to review the side road closures?

Thanks

 

[A Real Mysteron]

You might also want to remember that due to lockdown traffic is currently at 50% of normal levels.
If it’s bad now, what will it be like in a week’s time?

 

[Banana]

b) is London Borough of Ealing due to review the side road closures?

Certainly not in the next few weeks.

 

[GABS]

I parked up at my Mum's house, nearby Syon House, for Griffin Park games and then walked. It'll be 10 mins or so longer for Lionel Road but I need the exercise anyhow.

As time goes by and covid is hopefully defeated I may get the Syon Lane to Kew Bridge choo choo.

 

[BuzzWord]

PS Does anyone who lives locally know:-
a) when South Ealing Road works are due to be completed, and
b) is London Borough of Ealing due to review the side road closures?
Thanks

I gather the Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes will be "interim assessed" on feedback from residents mid-December & it'll be determined whether any immediate changes are needed, otherwise the final assessment will be made 6 months after each LTN commenced, ie early next year. The grapevine rumbles that some, especially those incorpoating schools &/or roads that are major rat-runs may well be kept, even though many residents are quite angry about some closures as you can need a degree in orienteering & trip planning to get to your own house. I'm afraid it's a case of wait & see!

 

[BeehindU]

PS Does anyone who lives locally know:-
a) when South Ealing Road works are due to be completed, and
b) is London Borough of Ealing due to review the side road closures?

Thanks

a) I’m convinced the South Ealing Road works will never end. It’s like painting the Forth Road Bridge - once they’re finished they start again. It’s part of some job retention scheme.
b) I live in one of those LTNs and it’s caused no end of trouble with neighbours falling out over whether they support it or not. I see the one at the top of our road has been vandalised again. The Council says it’s a trial run and will be reviewed after six months or so but no one believes they will be removed, although a group of locals is challenging them in the courts.

Ealing Council are attempting to discourage car drivers. Personally, I will be cycling to LR - much quicker.

 

[BuzzWord]

Map of Ealing LTNs

 

[Banana]

Map of Ealing LTNs

That's not all of them!

 

[David Brentford]

Any thoughts on motorbike parking near LR? I used to park on Brook Road just inside the no traffic zone on the basis that Ken and his friends would probably around that area and it wouldn’t get pinched. Was thinking about Kew Green and walking across..

 

[rebus]

For Saturday games, park in Ealing Road north of the A4 and walk to the stadium. Midweek is easier to park.

 

[hatfieldbee]

For Saturday games, park in Ealing Road north of the A4 and walk to the stadium. Midweek is easier to park.

Yes, normally able to get in Windmill (Lane?) (Road?) between library and railway bridge for midweek games.

Seeing News on TV this evening, sounds as though Tier 2 for London, so 2k crowds, so probably 1 home match in 4 or 5.

 

[ruislip bee]

I completed my STH survey for the club advising that I had decided to be included in the ballot for matches to be played at Lionel Road - Tier decision permitting. I'd decided it would be safer for me, as a 70 year old, to drive instead of going by public transport, as on a matchday, the closer you got to Kew Bridge or Gunnersbury Station, the train would become more crowded.

As I hadn't been down to the area since the Sheffield Wednesday game, and read about the problems caused by Low Traffic schemes, especially in the Northfields area, Mrs hb and I had a drive out this afternoon to see what all the fuss was about, and whether I would be adversely affected on a matchday, bearing in mind I intended parking just North of the A4 in the Enfield Road area (as I had done for GP), and walk to LR.

My normal route involves, from Hanger Lane Gyratory, working through West Ealing down Argyle Road, Northfields Avenue driving along side roads towards my parking area. Sometimes use Boston Manor Road and Swyncombe Avenue. Imagine my surprise when we found the number of road turnings closed, so there is no access from, eg, Windmill Lane to South Ealing Road, nor also Boston Road to Northfields Avenue.

Also South Ealing Road is a mess due to major road works with also Popes Lane junction closed (another alternative from A406 to Brentford).

I, therefore, strongly suggest anyone coming by car to LR leaves PLENTY of extra time over and above what they used to, to find street parking where they used to for GP, otherwise we will be caught up in gridlock with drivers finding they can't get to where they want to. Have read already about Emergency vehicles getting lost in the chaos. Also, Ealing has a blanket 20mph speed limit!

You have been warned! Especially as, potentially, the 1st match will be Blackburn on Saturday week.

Yep a real mess. Cant get from South Ealing to Northfields Ave as Elers Road, Cambourne, Leyborne and all the others are now no through roads from Culmington Road. Then from Northfields Ave all the side roads like Leighton, Hessel, and all the rest no longer go on through to Boston Manor Road. I spent 25 years living around both areas so know them really well and just couldn't work my way through from South Ealing to Boston Manor last week unless I stayed on the main bus route roads. What a nightmare.christ knows how the emergency services cope with this.

 

[unBEEliveable]

Yes, normally able to get in Windmill (Lane?) (Road?) between library and railway bridge for midweek games.

Seeing News on TV this evening, sounds as though Tier 2 for London, so 2k crowds, so probably 1 home match in 4 or 5.

Thanks for highlighting this as I had no idea it was happening and I used to always come down Northfields Ave and park off Windmill Road and was planning to do similar but park towards the South Ealing side now.

 

[Mark Bonner]

I completed my STH survey for the club advising that I had decided to be included in the ballot for matches to be played at Lionel Road - Tier decision permitting. I'd decided it would be safer for me, as a 70 year old, to drive instead of going by public transport, as on a matchday, the closer you got to Kew Bridge or Gunnersbury Station, the train would become more crowded.

I wish you all the best HB in both your travels and in watching the games. Take great care and enjoy being back. Come on you bees!

 

[Old B]

And certain GPG members can’t understand why the public dislikes council officials.

 

[hatfieldbee]

Yep a real mess. Cant get from South Ealing to Northfields Ave as Elers Road, Cambourne, Leyborne and all the others are now no through roads from Culmington Road. Then from Northfields Ave all the side roads like Leighton, Hessel, and all the rest no longer go on through to Boston Manor Road. I spent 25 years living around both areas so know them really well and just couldn't work my way through from South Ealing to Boston Manor last week unless I stayed on the main bus route roads. What a nightmare.christ knows how the emergency services cope with this.

Yes, lived in Woodstock Avenue then Clitherow Avenue growing up until moved out in my late 20s. Also (thought!) I knew the area very well - until yesterday!

 

[horshambees]

I used to park up in the Thames Road, Strand on the green, but that is Resident parking and driving too at certain times of the day I understand.
Still Park at Kew Gardens I think.

 

[kewbee]

I used to park up in the Thames Road, Strand on the green, but that is Resident parking and driving too at certain times of the day I understand.
Still Park at Kew Gardens I think.

Significant new cpz extensions are due to be implemented in Kew in the coming months.It will be very difficult to park anywhere near.With the brilliant transport links to Lionel Road,maybe some car users can switch to public transport,or park and ride?
Strand on the Green primary school are meant to be offering parking,but it’s £20 a pop!,and being strongly opposed by the locals.
One Kew pub does offer parking for customers..

 

[TW1Bee]

I live in the borough of Richmond and therefore am entitled to buy visitor parking permits. As almost all of Richmond is controlled parking i may look into parking around Kew Green and using a said visitor permit.

 

[kewbee]

I live in the borough of Richmond and therefore am entitled to buy visitor parking permits. As almost all of Richmond is controlled parking i may look into parking around Kew Green and using a said visitor permit.

In truth there are very few spaces available for visitors,especially at weekends considering Kew Gardens.Why not get the bus from TW1,stops right outside the ground.

 

[Simon W]

I wonder if the Sega building will offer car parking for Saturday games?

 

[jlove]

I've regularly parked in Kew, I've never not found a spot but it's going to be increasingly difficult. Even the roads off Kew Road, allowing you a short hop on the bus, are very restricted, especially when the weather's decent.

 

[horshambees]

Significant new cpz extensions are due to be implemented in Kew in the coming months.It will be very difficult to park anywhere near.With the brilliant transport links to Lionel Road,maybe some car users can switch to public transport,or park and ride?
Strand on the Green primary school are meant to be offering parking,but it’s £20 a pop!,and being strongly opposed by the locals.
One Kew pub does offer parking for customers..

I kinda figured this would happen sooner than later in and around the area.
What about around Chiswick Station? .
At the moment that is devoid of Controlled parking. (unless it will also fall)
I used it myself for travelling in and out of Central London on many occasions once Barnes and its surrounding streets became no go.

 

[pensioner]

Wondering if B&Q superstore on jct of nth circ rd / Chiswick rbout will be accessible without penalties.
Or some small ind. units on Power Road may be free to use. ?

 

[TW1Bee]

In truth there are very few spaces available for visitors,especially at weekends considering Kew Gardens.Why not get the bus from TW1,stops right outside the ground.

As I say I haven't checked it out. I always travel by public transport from Twickenham anyway with good options such as direct line on SW trains and 267 bus. Occasionally I do take the car though. Also there may be an impact on parking outside Kew Gardens which I seem to remember up to now has been free after a certain time of day. No doubt that will change.

 

[LingfieldBee]

My nan lives in Kew, I'll likely park in her drive, its bit of a walk from where she lives about 35mins according to google.

 

[kewbee]

As I say I haven't checked it out. I always travel by public transport from Twickenham anyway with good options such as direct line on SW trains and 267 bus. Occasionally I do take the car though. Also there may be an impact on parking outside Kew Gardens which I seem to remember up to now has been free after a certain time of day. No doubt that will change.

Indeed it has,no parking outside the gardens it’s now a new cycle lane!
How’s your bike..

 

[kewbee]

I kinda figured this would happen sooner than later in and around the area.
What about around Chiswick Station? .
At the moment that is devoid of Controlled parking. (unless it will also fall)
I used it myself for travelling in and out of Central London on many occasions once Barnes and its surrounding streets became no go.

Grove Park is facing massive changes and road closures,so as you say I’m pretty sure that’s a no go.

 

[kewbee]

I've regularly parked in Kew, I've never not found a spot but it's going to be increasingly difficult. Even the roads off Kew Road, allowing you a short hop on the bus, are very restricted, especially when the weather's decent.

Park at the back of one of your boyhood pubs jlove?

 

[rebus]

I wonder if the Sega building will offer car parking for Saturday games?

That will end up being

I've regularly parked in Kew, I've never not found a spot but it's going to be increasingly difficult. Even the roads off Kew Road, allowing you a short hop on the bus, are very restricted, especially when the weather's decent.

The retail park near Kew might be an option. Not sure of the total time you're allowed to spend there.

 

[jlove]

Park at the back of one of your boyhood pubs jlove?

I do but only when I eat there, honest John, y’know!

 

[jlove]

That will end up being

The retail park near Kew might be an option. Not sure of the total time you're allowed to spend there.

There’s streets nearer, no public transport, so a brisk walk. (My Dad worked there when it was the Dodge truck assembly plant, and Halifax bomber in WW2.)

 

[Simon W]

That will end up being

The retail park near Kew might be an option. Not sure of the total time you're allowed to spend there.

I would imagine there’s a 2 hour limit there.

When you drive to away matches, there’s always loads of local firms offering match day parking, I would like to think along the A4 there will be plenty of opportunities. Big Yellow storage for one are money grabbing ***** , so I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered it. The VW dealer has a fair size multi story car park which is more often than not empty. So there’s a couple of possible options

 

[rebus]

I would imagine there’s a 2 hour limit there.

When you drive to away matches, there’s always loads of local firms offering match day parking, I would like to think along the A4 there will be plenty of opportunities. Big Yellow storage for one are money grabbing ***** , so I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered it. The VW dealer has a fair size multi story car park which is more often than not empty. So there’s a couple of possible options

Yes, next season will be fine and firms will offer this. There are plenty of places to park near the stadium but I'm not telling you the nearest one as I want to keep it!

 

[The Joker]

The retail park near Kew might be an option. Not sure of the total time you're allowed to spend there.

A quick look on Google Street View suggests four hours (but of course things might have changed since then).

 

[big neil]

I always used to come down Northfields Ave, past the Plough towards South Ealing then chuck a right & find a space in one of the sidestreets near The Nelson or Globe.
Guess that long established routine has gone boobs up now.

 

[TW1Bee]

Yes, next season will be fine and firms will offer this. There are plenty of places to park near the stadium but I'm not telling you the nearest one as I want to keep it!

My brother in law is a Stoke season ticket holder and with it they are offered a parking space in one of the industrial/retail areas surrounding the Bet365. I think they have to pay an extra fee though but guarantees them a space within ten mins walk to the stadium. plenty of potential for that around LR.

 

[ruislip bee]

I do but only when I eat there, honest John, y’know!

You gonna need a meal to get a drink............

 

[kewbee]

A quick look on Google Street View suggests four hours (but of course things might have changed since then).

No that’s current,although they might change something if they detect significant matchday parking

 

[kewbee]

There’s streets nearer, no public transport, so a brisk walk. (My Dad worked there when it was the Dodge truck assembly plant, and Halifax bomber in WW2.)

Not for long,big changes coming in Kew.
Dodge factory,remember the site before all the flats sprung up.

 

[cromerbee]

Think I'll get the train up tbh.

 

[eddy bee]

For Saturday games, park in Ealing Road north of the A4 and walk to the stadium. Midweek is easier to park.

Can you walk down Lionel road south. Because I park in Boston Manor Road it's only 5 minutes walk.

 

[rebus]

Can you walk down Lionel road south. Because I park in Boston Manor Road it's only 5 minutes walk.

Yes. It’s only cars that can’t access that road now.

 

[Griffingreen]

Can you walk down Lionel road south. Because I park in Boston Manor Road it's only 5 minutes walk.

I think that would equate to a sub 5min mile!

 

[Delbee]

Can you walk down Lionel road south. Because I park in Boston Manor Road it's only 5 minutes walk.

I think it’s more likely 10 to 15 min walk and that’s from the lights at the A4

 

[Banana]

I wonder if the Sega building will offer car parking for Saturday games?

Unlikely. The most inflexible owner.....IN THE WORLD, Although I understand team coaches will be parked there

 

[Delbee]

Unlikely. The most inflexible owner.....IN THE WORLD, Although I understand team coaches will be parked there

You watch . These places will be going to ALL Boardroom people , home and away

I wonder how long before B&Q at Chiswick get security on Car Park Duties

 

[beebopalula]

Looks like l made a good move in moving from boston manor in july. However this will cause me real problems as l will have to drive.Basically l will have to find a place to park elsewhere and tube it to South Ealing. I did encounter the chaos a couple of weeks back when l had to drive to ealing broadway. Nutty scheme. The luvvies will soon find that property prices will nosedive cos no one will want to live in that restriction.

 

[Banana]

You watch . These places will be going to ALL Boardroom people , home and away

Oh yes. Plus there's an enormous truck park under the south stand that probably won't be used anymore...