Purchasing next years season ticket?

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Well I'm with Nanny. I thought a while back that advance purchase of season tickets might be helpful to a few fans and accelerated revenue for the club can only be a good thing, surely.

Horses for courses.

If you're tight for cash, why are you wanting to give it away to someone who doesn't need it when you could be getting a few extra pennies yourself?
 

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Don't forget the club chose NOT to put the prices up heavily when we were promoted

So the fans are all having a season "on the cheap"
We get 8 less games in the premier division. That’s 4 home matches less, or put another way, an 18pc increase in price. On the plus side, we don’t get to see Swansea, Derby, or Notts Forest, so it’s not all bad.
 

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I would be up for moving but if not possible then happy to stay where I am now.
I sat in the South Stand when it was Covid restricted ( v Derby ) but I’m in the West Stand now. I wouldn’t mind moving next season either. I chose the West Stand because it’s the shortest walking distance for me, but in hindsight, the North Stand would be ok too. Having to stand up to see the action when the play is in the goalmouth doesn’t suit my knees!
 

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Now all you minted fans have had your say perhaps the less fortunate can been given some help to get them next seasons tickets sorted
So why dont u trust aussie banks?
 

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I'm not so sure. We picked up a load when we were promoted to the Championship and they hung around.
I hope you’re right but not sure we can accurately assess this yet. Since we gained the new fans upon promotion to the championship we’ve continued on an upward trajectory (even the less exciting seasons we never came close to even flirting with a relegation battle) so there has yet to be a ‘leaner period’ to test their loyalties.
 

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I hope you’re right but not sure we can accurately assess this yet. Since we gained the new fans upon promotion to the championship we’ve continued on an upward trajectory (even the less exciting seasons we never came close to even flirting with a relegation battle) so there has yet to be a ‘leaner period’ to test their loyalties.
Should note that everyone that purchased a season ticket for this year did so when the club were in the Championship and indeed had COVID-19 not come around, would have remained in the Championship for the season that ticket was originally for. And now we're in the PL, we will have generated a lot more interest since even if we were to go down.

There will certainly be a decline in matchday ticket demand I'd imagine.
 

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We get 8 less games in the premier division. That’s 4 home matches less, or put another way, an 18pc increase in price. On the plus side, we don’t get to see Swansea, Derby, or Notts Forest, so it’s not all bad.
We dont get loads of midweek matches anymore
 
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So why dont u trust aussie banks?
On a jovial point it’s bad enough my grandchildren receiving there birthday and Christmas cards let alone sending money through your banks
 

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On a jovial point it’s bad enough my grandchildren receiving there birthday and Christmas cards let alone sending money through your banks
I blame the coffee cartel.
 
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Does anyone know whether the club has started modelling how many new Season Tickets it can safely release for sale next year 22/23? There seems to be a backlog of longtime supporters who for whatever reason did not succeed in getting a ST last year. The club appear to have prioritised having enough Matchday sales capacity over maximising ST sales. With all the benefit of hindsight, has that balance been right?

Is there still a waiting list maintained by the club of those who wanted to buy a ST for 21/22 - linked to whether they are now Members - and also linked to the number of TAPs they have? Hopefully new STs for 22/23 will be offered to those with high TAPs first. Could half-season ST even be offered for 21/22 ? Does anyone have any intelligence on this ?

(as a happy ST holder) am not sure why I’m asking all this. Think it’s because of all the angst being aired from longtime supporters who appear to be having difficulty getting Matchday tickets. Maybe it’s also that it would be good to know that the club is thinking ahead early, and doing a proper marketing process, like they did when first selling Lionel Road. That marketing seems to have gone very quiet, now that we are safely in PL.
 
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Does anyone know whether the club has started modelling how many new Season Tickets it can safely release for sale next year 22/23? There seems to be a backlog of longtime supporters who for whatever reason did not succeed in getting a ST last year. The club appear to have prioritised having enough Matchday sales capacity over maximising ST sales. With all the benefit of hindsight, has that balance been right?

Is there still a waiting list maintained by the club of those who wanted to buy a ST for 21/22 - linked to whether they are now Members - and also linked to the number of TAPs they have? Hopefully new STs for 22/23 will be offered to those with high TAPs first. Could half-season ST even be offered for 21/22 ? Does anyone have any intelligence on this ?

(as a happy ST holder) am not sure why I’m asking all this. Think it’s because of all the angst being aired from longtime supporters who appear to be having difficulty getting Matchday tickets. Maybe it’s also that it would be good to know that the club is thinking ahead early, and doing a proper marketing process, like they did when first selling Lionel Road. That marketing seems to have gone very quiet, now that we are safely in PL.
Also, is there a stadium plan to view anywhere showing seats taken by STH’s ?
 

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🤔 what is this less you speak of ? :confused:
Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.
 

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Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.
Life is just like that.
 

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Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.
But the taste of devouring it, is a thousand times better.
 

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Does anyone know whether the club has started modelling how many new Season Tickets it can safely release for sale next year 22/23? There seems to be a backlog of longtime supporters who for whatever reason did not succeed in getting a ST last year. The club appear to have prioritised having enough Matchday sales capacity over maximising ST sales. With all the benefit of hindsight, has that balance been right?

Is there still a waiting list maintained by the club of those who wanted to buy a ST for 21/22 - linked to whether they are now Members - and also linked to the number of TAPs they have? Hopefully new STs for 22/23 will be offered to those with high TAPs first. Could half-season ST even be offered for 21/22 ? Does anyone have any intelligence on this ?

(as a happy ST holder) am not sure why I’m asking all this. Think it’s because of all the angst being aired from longtime supporters who appear to be having difficulty getting Matchday tickets. Maybe it’s also that it would be good to know that the club is thinking ahead early, and doing a proper marketing process, like they did when first selling Lionel Road. That marketing seems to have gone very quiet, now that we are safely in PL.
I don't know the answer to any of this.
However I think you can rule out half season tickets for 21/22 which is a classic "bums on seats" offer for clubs not selling out that also makes a few quid for the club.
With games rapidly selling out at £35-£40 a pop I think the club will feel they've got it right not selling any more STs back in the summer.
 

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Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.


Oh!! Fewer you mean !! Got it !! ;)
 

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Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.
Never mind the quality, feel the width!
 

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Life is just like that.
I’m not complaining about it. The club made the offer for renewal without the knowledge of which division we would be in.The point I was making was that the price represents an increase in that we are paying the same amount for less matches, that’s all. Supply and demand means that we’ll probably pay more next season. I’m ok with that, but others may not be.
 

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I’m not complaining about it. The club made the offer for renewal without the knowledge of which division we would be in.The point I was making was that the price represents an increase in that we are paying the same amount for less matches, that’s all. Supply and demand means that we’ll probably pay more next season. I’m ok with that, but others may not be.
Sorry, I missed off ‘courtesy of Tom Hanks’ ;)
 

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I’m not complaining about it. The club made the offer for renewal without the knowledge of which division we would be in.The point I was making was that the price represents an increase in that we are paying the same amount for less matches, that’s all. Supply and demand means that we’ll probably pay more next season. I’m ok with that, but others may not be.

Same amount, fewer matches yes. Also at a price set a season before in a lower division. The match by match price went up 25% this season but that didn’t, apart from posh STs, get added to the standard ST price. Nor did the iFollow for last season get charged for when it’d normally have cost something like £150.

And just the Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea games were worth, as experiences, a lot more than Brum, Hull, Forest, Preston, Middlesbrough, Blackpool and Peterborough combined.
 

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Yes. That may be the case. I’m sure a financial advisor would know for sure.

just remember the fiasco with Christmas clubs, and how they took money and didn’t deliver (definitely not putting Brentford in this category, I have complete trust in my club). I thought that the FSA may have introduced rules to stop this.

Arthur Fowler was a **** 😢
 

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A B I think your confusing me with the coffee cartel members .anyway please back to the title . The reason for the thread is a bees fan asked at the ticket office if the club could help him sort out next years ticket. the staff member said No well I feel this sought of comment sends out the wrong message as bfc is a caring family club .looking to build on its fan base not destroy it .The fan was concerned mentioning he wouldn’t be able to go and after fifty years following the bees felt dumbfounded by the staffs response not good p R is it .

Hardly destroying the fan base are they? We could fill the ground twice over, someone in the office saying we don't run a bank saving scheme because we aren't a bank isn't destroying the fan base.

As mentioned above, they should set up a standing order and pay into a savings account, why should Brentford need to do this?
 

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Hardly destroying the fan base are they? We could fill the ground twice over, someone in the office saying we don't run a bank saving scheme because we aren't a bank isn't destroying the fan base.

As mentioned above, they should set up a standing order and pay into a savings account, why should Brentford need to do this?
They could even use a🐷 🏦 if they don’t have a bank account. It’s not a simple business for the club to collect and hold fans money in this way as there’s all sorts of possible problems and implications.
 

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By a minor miracle, this thread has circled back to topic!
 

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A B I think your confusing me with the coffee cartel members .anyway please back to the title . The reason for the thread is a bees fan asked at the ticket office if the club could help him sort out next years ticket. the staff member said No well I feel this sought of comment sends out the wrong message as bfc is a caring family club .looking to build on its fan base not destroy it .The fan was concerned mentioning he wouldn’t be able to go and after fifty years following the bees felt dumbfounded by the staffs response not good p R is it .
Yes I went to the ticket office to ask if the club could help my find a new energy supplier. The staff member said "NO!". This sought of comment sends out the wrong message as BFC is a caring family club looking to build on its fan base, not destroy it . I am now concerned that I won't be able to go and after fifty years following the bees feel dumbfounded by the staff member's response . Not good PR is it !!!!?
 

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I wonder how long the fella queued up for.
Did he ask for some milk for his cat too?
If he is desperate for help then I could look after some money for him, whoever he is, and stick it in a tin for him and give it back when needed.
A fella round the corner did exactly that for some people once and he now lives in a proper posh place with stables, swimming pool, car, horses.
We are not all like that down here in Wary Warnham though.
Offer is there 🤲
 

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Yes I went to the ticket office to ask if the club could help my find a new energy supplier. The staff member said "NO!". This sought of comment sends out the wrong message as BFC is a caring family club looking to build on its fan base, not destroy it . I am now concerned that I won't be able to go and after fifty years following the bees feel dumbfounded by the staff member's response . Not good PR is it !!!!?
You mean they didn’t recommend Utilita? Sponsorship doesn’t buy much at BFC!
 

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You mean they didn’t recommend Utilita? Sponsorship doesn’t buy much at BFC!
I’ve now given myself an image of someone going to the Arsenal ticket office saying they fancy going away and being asked “have you considered visiting Rwanda?”
 

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I’ve now given myself an image of someone going to the Arsenal ticket office saying they fancy going away and being asked “have you considered visiting Rwanda?”
Tbh, an away day in Rwanda is preferable to an away day in Rotherham/ Gillingham/ Grimsby etc.
 

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Reading this thread makes one wonder if the Club should be considering enlarging the stadium. If we stay in this league, and it looks as if we will, the pressure to obtain a ticket will only increase.
 

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Reading this thread makes one wonder if the Club should be considering enlarging the stadium. If we stay in this league, and it looks as if we will, the pressure to obtain a ticket will only increase.
The impossibility of this has been done to death. Spending tens of millions and having a season when a significant proportion of current STs can’t go so as to enable adding 5000 seats by demolishing and rebuilding the North Stand as a two tier stand over the railway is just not going to happen.
 

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The impossibility of this has been done to death. Spending tens of millions and having a season when a significant proportion of current STs can’t go so as to enable adding 5000 seats by demolishing and rebuilding the North Stand as a two tier stand over the railway is just not going to happen.
That is as maybe, however, the pressure to get a ticket will only increase the longer we remain it the top league. It is a law of economics that when a product becomes difficult to obtain the price will always rise.
 

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That is as maybe, however, the pressure to get a ticket will only increase the longer we remain it the top league. It is a law of economics that when a product becomes difficult to obtain the price will always rise.
Laws of economics aren’t laws in any real sense, just shorthand for a set of contestable assumptions. In the case of football tickets there’s not always the same need for revenue maximisation to raise prices to what the market will bear. As a policy matter BFC has avoided this by selling a lot of season tickets (which bear a discount) and not raising the price of the cheapest tickets to £50, at which level this season they’d probably still have sold out. If we spent millions on extending the ground and went without the revenue of the stand being rebuilt for a season that’d be more likely to raise ticket prices to recoup the investment.
 

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That is as maybe, however, the pressure to get a ticket will only increase the longer we remain it the top league. It is a law of economics that when a product becomes difficult to obtain the price will always rise.
Excellent, it makes going to Brentford all the more exclusive!
 

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Laws of economics aren’t laws in any real sense, just shorthand for a set of contestable assumptions. In the case of football tickets there’s not always the same need for revenue maximisation to raise prices to what the market will bear. As a policy matter BFC has avoided this by selling a lot of season tickets (which bear a discount) and not raising the price of the cheapest tickets to £50, at which level this season they’d probably still have sold out. If we spent millions on extending the ground and went without the revenue of the stand being rebuilt for a season that’d be more likely to raise ticket prices to recoup the investment.
I could debate economics with you, however, I am not sure that this thread, or indeed the GPG is the appropriate forum.
 
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Yes I went to the ticket office to ask if the club could help my find a new energy supplier. The staff member said "NO!". This sought of comment sends out the wrong message as BFC is a caring family club looking to build on its fan base, not destroy it . I am now concerned that I won't be able to go and after fifty years following the bees feel dumbfounded by the staff member's response . Not good PR is it !!!!?
If they don't get that sorted the lights will go out. Mark my words.
 
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Championship has 46 matches, 23 at home, whereas premier has 38 matches, 19 at home. Season ticket renewal was offered at the same price for both divisions. So getting promoted means 4 matches less for the same price. It’s just like buying a bar of chocolate for the same price, except the bar of choc is smaller.
Probably more like buying a 500 gram bar of Hersheys, finding that there were problems with shipping, receiving 20 mini-bars of Fruit and Nut as compensation and then being given a 480 gram bar of CDM.

The only downside I can see with that is that you're more likely to get diabetes.
 
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As I recall the club said there would be a 25% uplift for PL, assuming we are still there. they could add a bit for inflation, but given the financial pressure on people I hope not.
They’ve almost had that this season. We paid for 23 matches and only getting 19! That’s an increase of over 20% per match. And for many they’ve had our cash interest free for around 18 months too.
 

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They’ve almost had that this season. We paid for 23 matches and only getting 19! That’s an increase of over 20% per match. And for many they’ve had our cash interest free for around 18 months too.
The choice was yours, you could have had your money back months ago!
 

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They’ve almost had that this season. We paid for 23 matches and only getting 19! That’s an increase of over 20% per match. And for many they’ve had our cash interest free for around 18 months too.
I think quite a few of us are just happy to be at football again surrounded by friends and family.
We paid Championship prices and are getting Premier League football.
What's not too like?
 
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