Purchasing next years season ticket?

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They’ve almost had that this season. We paid for 23 matches and only getting 19! That’s an increase of over 20% per match. And for many they’ve had our cash interest free for around 18 months too.
You paid for the entire season’s football, not a set number of games and bought the season ticket on that basis with the knowledge we could get promotion.

Personally, I’m delighted we’re not playing run of the mill midweek games as it gets to burnout for the players. There’s too much football and too many footballers.
 

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Laws of economics aren’t laws in any real sense, just shorthand for a set of contestable assumptions. In the case of football tickets there’s not always the same need for revenue maximisation to raise prices to what the market will bear. As a policy matter BFC has avoided this by selling a lot of season tickets (which bear a discount) and not raising the price of the cheapest tickets to £50, at which level this season they’d probably still have sold out. If we spent millions on extending the ground and went without the revenue of the stand being rebuilt for a season that’d be more likely to raise ticket prices to recoup the investment.
TV revenues etc distort the demand to supply equation too. Football clubs in the higher echelons of the pyramid no longer rely on gate money to balance the books, and haven’t been dependent on that aspect of revenue alone for many years. A bit sad really, as footie has traditionally been a working man’s sport. The times, they are a’ changing!
 

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I've got to say I've loved the Premiership so far. Didn't think I was going to but it's been great. Might have been different if we were in Norwich's position though! My only complaint- lack of Saturday afternoon 3pm KO. Has seriously interfered with my normal life. It's been accepted over 28 years of marriage that every other Saturday and a number of Tuesday's was football and my time. Getting difficult to negotiate all these different KO days and times.
 
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Personally, I’m delighted we’re not playing run of the mill midweek games as it gets to burnout for the players. There’s too much football and too many footballers.
…and supporters
 
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I've got to say I've loved the Premiership so far. Didn't think I was going to but it's been great. Might have been different if we were in Norwich's position though! My only complaint- lack of Saturday afternoon 3pm KO. Has seriously interfered with my normal life. It's been accepted over 28 years of marriage that every other Saturday and a number of Tuesday's was football and my time. Getting difficult to negotiate all these different KO days and times.
Awful isn't it. Come the turn of the year we would have 2 saturday 3pm ko's.
With 8 less games and hardly and midweeks it feels strange.
 

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The choice was yours, you could have had your money back months ago!
How do you reach a conclusion that I wanted my money back or was unhappy? Just stating a fact that the price per match has risen by over 20% and they’ve had our cash for 18 months or so. Is there a problem stating facts?
 

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I think quite a few of us are just happy to be at football again surrounded by friends and family.
We paid Championship prices and are getting Premier League football.
What's not too like?
You seem to miss the point that you haven’t paid Championship prices. You’ve paid Championship +20%. This has nothing to do with happy about being back at matches, etc. It was just stating a fact that some people seem to struggle grasping. Not everyone is blessed with a grasp of maths.
 

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How do you reach a conclusion that I wanted my money back or was unhappy? Just stating a fact that the price per match has risen by over 20% and they’ve had our cash for 18 months or so. Is there a problem stating facts?
No not at all, my point was if you were unhappy you should have asked for a refund when you had the chance?

Can't be that bad then....
 

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You seem to miss the point that you haven’t paid Championship prices. You’ve paid Championship +20%. This has nothing to do with happy about being back at matches, etc. It was just stating a fact that some people seem to struggle grasping. Not everyone is blessed with a grasp of maths.
Really?
I bought a season ticket for the Championship.
With a Championship price tag.
When we were in the Championship.
It enabled me too watch 23 Championship matches.
It didn't happen I know and it was frozen over until this season and we got promoted I know, but originally it was a Championship season ticket morphed into one that has allowed me to watch Premier league football with my family and friend (I have not got many)
What point have I missed here?

Grasp of maths?
Don't be offended if I tell you to you know what.
 

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How do you reach a conclusion that I wanted my money back or was unhappy? Just stating a fact that the price per match has risen by over 20% and they’ve had our cash for 18 months or so. Is there a problem stating facts?
Get the maths but what's your point?
 
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Get the maths but what's your point?
Re @wasters “the club having our cash for 18 months”: It is pretty clear that the club had to continue paying the players during that 20/21 year. So even though we never got to attend matches for long periods, this “cash” was needed to pay those wages. We (deferring) supporters were let off paying for a whole season, even though the players kept playing twice a week. Even received iFollow FOC.

So the club may have “had our cash for 18 months” but that’s only because they let us off paying for that season. The only likely saving they would have made was from furloughing non playing staff. You would assume that this, plus the lack of player sales, and the extra costs of being in PL, are reasons why the club have needed to take out a loan facility.
 

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Re @wasters “the club having our cash for 18 months”: It is pretty clear that the club had to continue paying the players during that 20/21 year. So even though we never got to attend matches for long periods, this “cash” was needed to pay those wages. We (deferring) supporters were let off paying for a whole season, even though the players kept playing twice a week. Even received iFollow FOC.

So the club may have “had our cash for 18 months” but that’s only because they let us off paying for that season. The only likely saving they would have made was from furloughing non playing staff. You would assume that this, plus the lack of player sales, and the extra costs of being in PL, are reasons why the club have needed to take out a loan facility.
Exactly. But as we were all offered a refund, what is the point that's being made? Or is he/she complaining about the £ per game difference? Or is he/she just stating a fact we are all obviously aware of? If the latter, what is the point of the comment? I don't mean that rhetorically. Or maybe I've missed some earlier posts which would explain that ☺️
 

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How do you reach a conclusion that I wanted my money back or was unhappy? Just stating a fact that the price per match has risen by over 20% and they’ve had our cash for 18 months or so. Is there a problem stating facts?
I'm confused.
You're complaining because you're getting to watch a higher quality standard of football, with potentially huge benefits to the club and even the threat that if we do well, you'll get a bi-weekly holiday opportunity to places such as Sofia and Prague?

When I bought my ST I was expecting the delights of Barnsley and Stoke, so yeah, give me a 20% price hike and let me see us go toe to toe with the big boys!

Worth considering as well, that 20% is immaterial as you've not actually had to stump it up?
 

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If you were thinking of maybe a large price rise in the Dug Out...

Don't worry have a look what is happening in SW London !!!

 
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they’ll be a queue a mile long for these and they know it
It does put into context the risk of fans of other PL clubs buying memberships at BFC for the chance to get a ticket. £70-100 is a veritable bargain.
 

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EXACTLY. £40 is nothing to them, a mere booking fee.
Self-evidently so.

That said, I'm not so sure that these people in the £4k seats would be interested in following Chelsea away to a tinpot little club like Brentford? I mean, they're probably only there because it is Chelsea and it is £3.9k, meaning that a trip on the Tube out to the BCS doesn't afford nearly the same bragging rights as eg an expensive charter to Moscow or Rome for a Champions League game, or a £5k match ticket for the final etc.

(Which is not to say that a lot of their more regular fans haven't been buying £40 Memberships for BFC.)
 

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Self-evidently so.

That said, I'm not so sure that these people in the £4k seats would be interested in following Chelsea away to a tinpot little club like Brentford? I mean, they're probably only there because it is Chelsea and it is £3.9k, meaning that a trip on the Tube out to the BCS doesn't afford nearly the same bragging rights as eg an expensive charter to Moscow or Rome for a Champions League game, or a £5k match ticket for the final etc.

(Which is not to say that a lot of their more regular fans haven't been buying £40 Memberships for BFC.)
If you’re paying £1.2k pa etc it’s a mere booking fee also. Especially when they might have either mates who are Brentford fans or live in the local area.
 

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If you’re paying £1.2k pa etc it’s a mere booking fee also. Especially when they might have either mates who are Brentford fans or live in the local area.
So what are you saying? That BFC should increase the Membership Fee from £40 to eg £400?

I myself think it's disgusting, but what it boils down to is that (a ) there are a lot of extremely wealthy people in London, with those who are also football fans preferring Chelsea to the likes of Brentford or Charlton; and (b ) Chelsea are going to exploit that, just like every other club would, given the choice.

While the fact that the dearest ST eg at Turf Moor is just £650 reflects that there are a lot of very poor people in Burnley, with many of those who do have a few bob probably "supporting" Man United or Liverpool etc.

It's called Capitalism.
 

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So what are you saying? That BFC should increase the Membership Fee from £40 to eg £400?

I myself think it's disgusting, but what it boils down to is that (a ) there are a lot of extremely wealthy people in London, with those who are also football fans preferring Chelsea to the likes of Brentford or Charlton; and (b ) Chelsea are going to exploit that, just like every other club would, given the choice.

While the fact that the dearest ST eg at Turf Moor is just £650 reflects that there are a lot of very poor people in Burnley, with many of those who do have a few bob probably "supporting" Man United or Liverpool etc.

It's called Capitalism.
No, I’m saying for these type of games some sort of prior attendance should be brought in as a factor to qualify for purchasing.
 

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The impossibility of this has been done to death. Spending tens of millions and having a season when a significant proportion of current STs can’t go so as to enable adding 5000 seats by demolishing and rebuilding the North Stand as a two tier stand over the railway is just not going to happen.

It's not going to happen. Look at Swansea, Cardiff, Reading and Bolton. Huge demand for tickets when their in the PL but can they fill the ground out now?.

Not saying we be relegated this season but we won't in the Premier League forever.

Put abit of money aside if you can, have a few less pints, cigerettes or pies at Football and put that tenner or twenty quid away each week away in a Cash ISA or savings account. That what I'm doing.
 
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