Report inappropriate behaviour at home games

[jstants92]

Hi all,

I'm normally a reader rather than a contributer to the site but after last night's game, I felt I needed to share my experience of repeated inappropriate language by a fellow "fan" in the west stand.

I've been coming to matches for 17 years and have been a STH for a majority of those years but last night was the worst experience I've ever had attending a Brentford match following the behaviour of this "fan".

The word c*nt is frequently part the the man's vocabulary at most matches,fine, but tonight appeared to be another level. Not only did he repeat the word every 30 to 40 seconds, he did so using homophobic, racist and derogatory comments towards players on the pitch.

I'm all for a bit of passionate vocal support, and am not against a bit of swearing and telling the ref he may have it wrong but people like him need to be challenged.

I won't go into all the detail, as I have left it to the club to action, but the repeated use of terms such as "batty boy" , "poof", " you f*cking spastic" and "stick your cock in his mouth Ivan, that will shut him up" is not okay.

"f*ck off back to madeira you f******g madeira looking c*nt". "You f*cking French f*ck". He also deliberately mispronounced a black players name(Elanga) a number of times and said "or whatever you are". I believe this was done with racial intent.

Unfortunately a group of supporters began chanting about Ronaldo being a sex offender. The man began to laugh and joke at this, saying "haha she said no, christiano. Don't touch her" he continued with a similar comment which I cannot recall. This made the lady stood in front of him shudder.

All this has made myself, my mates and a number of supporters around us quite uncomfortable. The male stands behind a young boy (maybe 12yrs old) and his mother. The mother was visibly uncomfortable with the situation.

I tried to report during the game but didn't have signal in the stadium. I emailled the club last night when I got home. The great news is they have already responded and are investigating.

In hindsight I should have challenged this man more and will do so if it continues at other matches.

I suppose all I'm saying is, please do report this kind of behaviour. It's not okay. It's never been okay. And it will never be okay.

Reporting text number during games is 62277 "BFC" followed by your message. Or report@brentfordfc.com

Rant over. Up the bees.

 

[RAF_Patto]

Hope the club take appropriate actions and thank you for the timely reminder on what to do.

Whilst we all wish we could challenge more at the time, it's also intimating to do so and you just don't know how someone will respond to you. So if you don't feel safe to do so, that's okay!

Hopefully you don't see or hear any repeats of the above, from that individual or anyone else for that matter.

You Reds

 

[nocoat]

All of that sounds well out of order and totally over the top.

Apart from the original sex offender chant that another group of lads started off. That’s just mugging off ronaldo so not sure it’s that “unfortunate”? Honest question - is that sort of thing not allowed anymore? And no I didn’t sing it. I’m too old for that sort of thing now

 

[nocoat]

on a separate point i think the gentleman needs some professional help with that Ivan comment

 

[Eieieio]

good on you for reporting it. not welcome at our club. especially with a child next to him in the stand (but also regardless).

 

[Cbee]

Hi all,

I'm normally a reader rather than a contributer to the site but after last night's game, I felt I needed to share my experience of repeated inappropriate language by a fellow "fan" in the west stand.

I've been coming to matches for 17 years and have been a STH for a majority of those years but last night was the worst experience I've ever had attending a Brentford match following the behaviour of this "fan".

The word c*nt is frequently part the the man's vocabulary at most matches,fine, but tonight appeared to be another level. Not only did he repeat the word every 30 to 40 seconds, he did so using homophobic, racist and derogatory comments towards players on the pitch.

I'm all for a bit of passionate vocal support, and am not against a bit of swearing and telling the ref he may have it wrong but people like him need to be challenged.

I won't go into all the detail, as I have left it to the club to action, but the repeated use of terms such as "batty boy" , "poof", " you f*cking spastic" and "stick your cock in his mouth Ivan, that will shut him up" is not okay.

"f*ck off back to madeira you f******g madeira looking c*nt". "You f*cking French f*ck". He also deliberately mispronounced a black players name(Elanga) a number of times and said "or whatever you are". I believe this was done with racial intent.

Unfortunately a group of supporters began chanting about Ronaldo being a sex offender. The man began to laugh and joke at this, saying "haha she said no, christiano. Don't touch her" he continued with a similar comment which I cannot recall. This made the lady stood in front of him shudder.

All this has made myself, my mates and a number of supporters around us quite uncomfortable. The male stands behind a young boy (maybe 12yrs old) and his mother. The mother was visibly uncomfortable with the situation.

I tried to report during the game but didn't have signal in the stadium. I emailled the club last night when I got home. The great news is they have already responded and are investigating.

In hindsight I should have challenged this man more and will do so if it continues at other matches.

I suppose all I'm saying is, please do report this kind of behaviour. It's not okay. It's never been okay. And it will never be okay.

Reporting text number during games is 62277 "BFC" followed by your message. Or report@brentfordfc.com

Rant over. Up the bees.

With regard to the above, I reported something similar in stand S106 after the Everton game. Unless others report this and you give a lot of detail the club can’t do too much.

I gave seat details and was told that the people concerned are members, but they could not verify the language used and only had my complaint to go on. I’ve been told they will monitor but could not act on my complaint alone.

 

[OhBeehave]

Hi all,

I'm normally a reader rather than a contributer to the site but after last night's game, I felt I needed to share my experience of repeated inappropriate language by a fellow "fan" in the west stand.

I've been coming to matches for 17 years and have been a STH for a majority of those years but last night was the worst experience I've ever had attending a Brentford match following the behaviour of this "fan".

The word c*nt is frequently part the the man's vocabulary at most matches,fine, but tonight appeared to be another level. Not only did he repeat the word every 30 to 40 seconds, he did so using homophobic, racist and derogatory comments towards players on the pitch.

I'm all for a bit of passionate vocal support, and am not against a bit of swearing and telling the ref he may have it wrong but people like him need to be challenged.

I won't go into all the detail, as I have left it to the club to action, but the repeated use of terms such as "batty boy" , "poof", " you f*cking spastic" and "stick your cock in his mouth Ivan, that will shut him up" is not okay.

"f*ck off back to madeira you f******g madeira looking c*nt". "You f*cking French f*ck". He also deliberately mispronounced a black players name(Elanga) a number of times and said "or whatever you are". I believe this was done with racial intent.

Unfortunately a group of supporters began chanting about Ronaldo being a sex offender. The man began to laugh and joke at this, saying "haha she said no, christiano. Don't touch her" he continued with a similar comment which I cannot recall. This made the lady stood in front of him shudder.

All this has made myself, my mates and a number of supporters around us quite uncomfortable. The male stands behind a young boy (maybe 12yrs old) and his mother. The mother was visibly uncomfortable with the situation.

I tried to report during the game but didn't have signal in the stadium. I emailled the club last night when I got home. The great news is they have already responded and are investigating.

In hindsight I should have challenged this man more and will do so if it continues at other matches.

I suppose all I'm saying is, please do report this kind of behaviour. It's not okay. It's never been okay. And it will never be okay.

Reporting text number during games is 62277 "BFC" followed by your message. Or report@brentfordfc.com

Rant over. Up the bees.

Sounds like that could be the same guy who shouted similar obscenities to Tarkowski at Burnley a couple of months ago. It was relentless and frankly very wearing. I reckon someone had a word eventually as he seemed to stop after a while in the second half. I tried to call him out by mentioning it loudly but as an infirm woman of 'a certain age' going to a college reunion in Manchester later that evening, I wasn't prepared to tackle him head on that day. That's not to say I wouldn't on another occasion as I've had my moments.

 

[ppobee]

Well said @jstants92 - I heard the sex offender chant from N127 and assumed it was about a certain high profile player. I commented on the City match thread about the "she said no" chant, and got in touch with Her Game Too as a result. These chants, and the West London song, make women feel uncomfortable (and me for that matter) and it is for everyone, and especially men, to call people out when they hear it. That is easy for me to say in N127 which not usually the source of such problems. I am truly sorry that anyone had to listen to that level of abuse. Perhaps time from a statement from the club about what inclusion means to them. The Bee Together film is great but clearly doesn't cut through to those who really need to understand it.

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

We had someone shouting abuse at Jensen all through the match and calling him names as he walked off after being subbed. We sit above the dug outs and he won't be doing it again.

 

[Silly Hat]

Hi all,

I'm normally a reader rather than a contributer to the site but after last night's game, I felt I needed to share my experience of repeated inappropriate language by a fellow "fan" in the west stand.

I've been coming to matches for 17 years and have been a STH for a majority of those years but last night was the worst experience I've ever had attending a Brentford match following the behaviour of this "fan".

The word c*nt is frequently part the the man's vocabulary at most matches,fine, but tonight appeared to be another level. Not only did he repeat the word every 30 to 40 seconds, he did so using homophobic, racist and derogatory comments towards players on the pitch.

I'm all for a bit of passionate vocal support, and am not against a bit of swearing and telling the ref he may have it wrong but people like him need to be challenged.

I won't go into all the detail, as I have left it to the club to action, but the repeated use of terms such as "batty boy" , "poof", " you f*cking spastic" and "stick your cock in his mouth Ivan, that will shut him up" is not okay.

"f*ck off back to madeira you f******g madeira looking c*nt". "You f*cking French f*ck". He also deliberately mispronounced a black players name(Elanga) a number of times and said "or whatever you are". I believe this was done with racial intent.

Unfortunately a group of supporters began chanting about Ronaldo being a sex offender. The man began to laugh and joke at this, saying "haha she said no, christiano. Don't touch her" he continued with a similar comment which I cannot recall. This made the lady stood in front of him shudder.

All this has made myself, my mates and a number of supporters around us quite uncomfortable. The male stands behind a young boy (maybe 12yrs old) and his mother. The mother was visibly uncomfortable with the situation.

I tried to report during the game but didn't have signal in the stadium. I emailled the club last night when I got home. The great news is they have already responded and are investigating.

In hindsight I should have challenged this man more and will do so if it continues at other matches.

I suppose all I'm saying is, please do report this kind of behaviour. It's not okay. It's never been okay. And it will never be okay.

Reporting text number during games is 62277 "BFC" followed by your message. Or report@brentfordfc.com

Rant over. Up the bees.

Sounds like this was in W235? Row 23/24?

 

[YouReds123]

Well said @jstants92 - I heard the sex offender chant from N127 and assumed it was about a certain high profile player. I commented on the City match thread about the "she said no" chant, and got in touch with Her Game Too as a result. These chants, and the West London song, make women feel uncomfortable (and me for that matter) and it is for everyone, and especially men, to call people out when they hear it. That is easy for me to say in N127 which not usually the source of such problems. I am truly sorry that anyone had to listen to that level of abuse. Perhaps time from a statement from the club about what inclusion means to them. The Bee Together film is great but clearly doesn't cut through to those who really need to understand it.

the "she said no" and the "Cristiano's a sex offender" gets sung anytime Ronaldo steps foot into a stadium. If our chants made women feel uncomfortable, imagine how they'd feel about his actions

 

[aslan]

the "she said no" and the "Cristiano's a sex offender" gets sung anytime Ronaldo steps foot into a stadium. If our chants made women feel uncomfortable, imagine how they'd feel about his actions

The rest of the stuff mentioned is disgusting, no place for it here.
I was one of the many who reminded CR7 what a vile POS he is and why he should be in prison every time he was within earshot of the West Stand, no shame about it either.

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

With regard to the above, I reported something similar in stand S106 after the Everton game. Unless others report this and you give a lot of detail the club can’t do too much.

I gave seat details and was told that the people concerned are members, but they could not verify the language used and only had my complaint to go on. I’ve been told they will monitor but could not act on my complaint alone.

Let's talk next match @Cbee. As I mentioned before, my wife commented on a similar thing. I don't always pick up on it. If it's still happening it needs to stop.

 

[nocoat]

the "she said no" and the "Cristiano's a sex offender" gets sung anytime Ronaldo steps foot into a stadium. If our chants made women feel uncomfortable, imagine how they'd feel about his actions

yes. hence my "genuine question" its like that time in the inbetweeners where the kid didn't know the rules any more when he made one mum joke too many or some such. We need to be told what is ok and what isn't! maybe like a wall of remembrance for songs or suntin or get someone* to knock up a CoC for singing.

*not pat k or RAF Patto.

 

[nocoat]

Sounds like this was in W235? Row 23/24?

I thought you were joking but just heard someone else say the same! I didn't hear this fellow at all!! I would definitely remember if i heard a man ask another man to put his willy in another mans mouth. And the word **** 60 times. I was three seats away from you - did you hear all this!! was it you?

 

[Ealing Bee]

yes. hence my "genuine question" its like that time in the inbetweeners where the kid didn't know the rules any more when he made one mum joke too many or some such. We need to be told what is ok and what isn't! maybe like a wall of remembrance for songs or suntin or get someone* to knock up a CoC for singing.

*not pat k or RAF Patto.

Maybe just imagine if your Mum/Sister/Wife/Daughter was with you before you start to sing?

 

[jstants92]

Sounds like this was in W235? Row 23/24?

Unfortunately yes. Seat number given to the club.

 

[chasyuk]

Not too dissimilar behaviour in Row 13 N124 week in week out. Not homophobic or racist but the relentless screaming out of obscenities from start to finish mostly along the lines of 'you f***ing c***' and variations of same depending on any notable characteristics of the target. I get that people become passionate and some choice language is part and parcel of the matchday experience and have no problem with that, but this incessant use of the c word particularly for 90 minutes is at another level and is not necessary and not acceptable.

 

[Untouchable]

won't go into all the detail, as I have left it to the club to action, but the repeated use of terms such as "batty boy" , "poof", " you f*cking spastic" and "stick your cock in his mouth Ivan, that will shut him up" is not okay.

"f*ck off back to madeira you f******g madeira looking c*nt". "You f*cking French f*ck". He also deliberately mispronounced a black players name(Elanga) a number of times and said "or whatever you are". I believe this was done with racial intent.

Unfortunately a group of supporters began chanting about Ronaldo being a sex offender. The man began to laugh and joke at this, saying "haha she said no, christiano. Don't touch her" he continued with a similar comment which I cannot recall. This made the lady stood in front of him shudder.

All this has made myself, my mates and a number of supporters around us quite uncomfortable. The male stands behind a young boy (maybe 12yrs old) and his mother. The mother was visibly uncomfortable with the situation.

This is a pretty comprehensive account of some awful behaviour. It’s a full house on a discrimination bingo card. I hope the club can identify this person and ban them.

Saying that, applying my new found legal knowledge acquired from the Liverpool train thread, I can confidently say that the fact that you heard all of this and witnessed it all does not actually constitute any evidence that it actually happened. Someone will be along shortly to determine what your actual agenda is

 

[Silly Hat]

I thought you were joking but just heard someone else say the same! I didn't hear this fellow at all!! I would definitely remember if i heard a man ask another man to put his willy in another mans mouth. And the word **** 60 times. I was three seats away from you - did you hear all this!! was it you?

No, I didn’t hear it at all, but when I read it was a woman with her 12 year old son I thought instantly of the mum just behind our lot and to the left who loves singing along to ‘Fulham get battered everywhere they go’ Saying that, there’s a squeaky voiced kid right behind me who spends 90 mins shouting ‘you f***ing c*nt‘ at the ref/linesman/opposition and slagging off Toney at every game he attends. Not yours or SC’s, I hasten to add.

 

[Scobee]

The young ladies around me love the chants and were joining in.
Stop being offended on other people's behalf, it's as if we have certain fans who only come to games to be "offended"

 

[nocoat]

Maybe just imagine if your Mum/Sister/Wife/Daughter was with you before you start to sing?

My mum would think its funny cos it rhymed.
I don't have a sister. If I did I wouldn't be here because I was the youngest of three boys and my mum kept going until she had a girl then gave up with me.
My wife would roll her eyes and possibly tut and I have a sneaking suspicion would try and hide a grin.
I wouldn't sing that in front of my daughter you sicko!!

 

[Ealing Bee]

My mum would think its funny cos it rhymed.
I don't have a sister. If I did I wouldn't be here because I was the youngest of three boys and my mum kept going until she had a girl then gave up with me.
My wife would roll her eyes and possibly tut and I have a sneaking suspicion would try and hide a grin.
I wouldn't sing that in front of my daughter you sicko!!

And I would hope you wouldn't sing it in front of someone elses daughter either, so there's your answer.

 

[Banana]

I thought you were joking but just heard someone else say the same! I didn't hear this fellow at all!! I would definitely remember if i heard a man ask another man to put his willy in another mans mouth. And the word **** 60 times. I was three seats away from you - did you hear all this!! was it you?

Individual shouts probably don't travel that far in a noisy stand.

 

[aslan]

Individual shouts probably don't travel that far in a noisy stand.

Tell that to Telles!

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

The young ladies around me love the chants and were joining in.
Stop being offended on other people's behalf, it's as if we have certain fans who only come to games to be "offended"

Are you replying to a specific post? Post 1?

 

[NZ Bee]

The young ladies around me love the chants and were joining in.
Stop being offended on other people's behalf, it's as if we have certain fans who only come to games to be "offended"

A fairly expensive hobby, paying £450 for a ticket, just to get offended.

Much cheaper to sit at home and scroll through Twitter.

 

[ppobee]

The young ladies around me love the chants and were joining in.
Stop being offended on other people's behalf, it's as if we have certain fans who only come to games to be "offended"

Yes, 45 years of coming to games just to get offended. Clearly can't get enough of it!

I'm offended by it, it makes my partner less keen to come and I have to explain it to my nine year old daughter. 97% of women reported that they had been the subject of sexual harrasment according to a report by UN Women UK last year. Why would you want to go anywhere to be reminded of that? There are plenty of ways to vent at players/officials without mentioning alleged sexual offending.

 

[Scobee]

97% of women reported they were victims of sexual harassment last year? Bollox mate

 

[Silly Hat]

I'm offended by it

So what?

 

[rebus]

97% of women reported they were victims of sexual harassment last year? Bollox mate

How about you just stop hijacking the thread and run along. We’re not debating statistics that have nothing to do with the topic.

 

[OhBeehave]

the "she said no" and the "Cristiano's a sex offender" gets sung anytime Ronaldo steps foot into a stadium. If our chants made women feel uncomfortable, imagine how they'd feel about his actions

I didn't hear those chants about CR but I did hear the ones about Mendy v City. They made me angry rather than uncomfortable for three reasons. I) Rape is not a subject for "banter" and never should be and 2) Mendy, though he may well be guilty, has not been proved so, and 3) he wasn't even playing so it's completely irrelevant and puts our fans in a bad light. I have been a victim so I probably should feel good that men are looking out for women but actually, I recall some Bees fans on Twitter during the Ched Evans case, (this would be before the retrial) supporting him unequivocally and calling the girl a slag. I'd imagine some of those were singing about Mendy.

I'm not expressing myself well but I just don't think it's appropriate to make light of rape and sexual abuse. I wasn't aware of the Ronaldo case but having just looked it up, I don't really know what to think as to whether he did it or not so I can't really imagine how I'd 'feel about his actions" since it's been thrown out. All I can say is there are many other reasons to dislike Ronaldo and get on his case, alleged rape isn['t one of them as if he was guilty, he wouldn't be on the pitch.

 

[Bungy Bee]

Front up to these people......show some balls guys......you must nip these things in the bud....You Reds....

 

[RAF_Patto]

It's frustrating to see how these threads develop.

Ultimately, if you're offended by something you're entitled to report it and the club will investigate.

If you're not offended, then no need for you to do anything.

This shouldn't be a debate about where the line in the sand is, ultimately that is at the feet of the club and what they deem appropriate for their stadium. Some elements are less of a grey area, but again, there is little debate needed about these.

I applaud those who report what they deem inappropriate and respect that others may have a different line, it's subjective.

 

[Silly Hat]

I didn't hear those chants about CR but I did hear the ones about Mendy v City. They made me angry rather than uncomfortable for three reasons. I) Rape is not a subject for "banter" and never should be and 2) Mendy, though he may well be guilty, has not been proved so, and 3) he wasn't even playing so it's completely irrelevant and puts our fans in a bad light. I have been a victim so I probably should feel good that men are looking out for women but actually, I recall some Bees fans on Twitter during the Ched Evans case, (this would be before the retrial) supporting him unequivocally and calling the girl a slag. I'd imagine some of those were singing about Mendy.

I'm not expressing myself well but I just don't think it's appropriate to make light of rape and sexual abuse. I wasn't aware of the Ronaldo case but having just looked it up, I don't really know what to think as to whether he did it or not so I can't really imagine how I'd 'feel about his actions" since it's been thrown out. All I can say is there are many other reasons to dislike Ronaldo and get on his case, alleged rape isn['t one of them as if he was guilty, he wouldn't be on the pitch.

Here we go.….

 

[Guildford Bee]

if he was guilty, he wouldn't be on the pitch.

If he was *found* guilty, you mean.

Not that it justifies it but what Ronaldo experienced last night is a drop in the ocean compared to the stick that Jamie Cureton used to get!

 

[OhBeehave]

If he was *found* guilty, you mean.

Not that it justifies it but what Ronaldo experienced last night is a drop in the ocean compared to the stick that Jamie Cureton used to get!

Yes of course, that's what I meant.

 

[Invipai]

97% of women reported they were victims of sexual harassment last year? Bollox mate

I know a female who comes to Brentford games, as well as other games (she supports Bristol City but her partner is a Bee) and she says there has only been one game she's been to this year (out of over 20 games) where she didn't get something... Be it either a comment, 'accidental touch' when passing etc. She's very strong on the impact it has and says that it has made her consider stopping going in the past.

Now I personally have never seen any sexism in the concourses at football, but then I don't want to be the person who insists it isn't happening because I'm not seeing it myself. Why would I see it myself as a male in his 30's? This stuff does go on and I could believe that figure, even it it's counting someone making a comment as being sexual harassment.

 

[YouReds123]

I didn't hear those chants about CR but I did hear the ones about Mendy v City. They made me angry rather than uncomfortable for three reasons. I) Rape is not a subject for "banter" and never should be and 2) Mendy, though he may well be guilty, has not been proved so, and 3) he wasn't even playing so it's completely irrelevant and puts our fans in a bad light. I have been a victim so I probably should feel good that men are looking out for women but actually, I recall some Bees fans on Twitter during the Ched Evans case, (this would be before the retrial) supporting him unequivocally and calling the girl a slag. I'd imagine some of those were singing about Mendy.

I'm not expressing myself well but I just don't think it's appropriate to make light of rape and sexual abuse. I wasn't aware of the Ronaldo case but having just looked it up, I don't really know what to think as to whether he did it or not so I can't really imagine how I'd 'feel about his actions" since it's been thrown out. All I can say is there are many other reasons to dislike Ronaldo and get on his case, alleged rape isn['t one of them as if he was guilty, he wouldn't be on the pitch.

Completely agree with that.
But I don't think the songs are "banter", just reminding the man himself what a horrible scumbag he is to throw him off his game, and by all accounts, baring one chest pass, it completely worked.
The Mendy situation was weird because he wasn't actually playing but he was literally in prison for a few months after finally being let out on bail after the 4th attempt and Ronaldo admitted to paying the girl £300,000. Both scumbags so any songs of abuse being sung their way, I'll be joining in with

 

[nocoat]

This shouldn't be a debate about where the line in the sand is, ultimately that is at the feet of the club and what they deem appropriate for their stadium. Some elements are less of a grey area, but again, there is little debate needed about these.

And if they only deem what is appropriate after something has happened that they deem inappropriate and ban an individual then thats f***ed up too. For example. If i sing "Let him die." to a player and the club then say AFTERWARDS that it warrants a ban, is that really fair?

the man referred to in the original post was bang out of order. Pretty obvious, why is it obvious, as there is no debate where the line in the sand is on that. Racism - NO DEBATE. But what about all the people singing the ronaldo song or let him die song - should they be banned?

I just dont understand your point here about a line in the sand not mattering.

 

[YouReds123]

If he was *found* guilty, you mean.

Not that it justifies it but what Ronaldo experienced last night is a drop in the ocean compared to the stick that Jamie Cureton used to get!

"Jamie Cureton, we'll laugh when you die" I remember being sung away at Dagenham in the 6-6(?)

 

[Nickabee]

I didn't hear those chants about CR but I did hear the ones about Mendy v City. They made me angry rather than uncomfortable for three reasons. I) Rape is not a subject for "banter" and never should be and 2) Mendy, though he may well be guilty, has not been proved so, and 3) he wasn't even playing so it's completely irrelevant and puts our fans in a bad light. I have been a victim so I probably should feel good that men are looking out for women but actually, I recall some Bees fans on Twitter during the Ched Evans case, (this would be before the retrial) supporting him unequivocally and calling the girl a slag. I'd imagine some of those were singing about Mendy.

I'm not expressing myself well but I just don't think it's appropriate to make light of rape and sexual abuse. I wasn't aware of the Ronaldo case but having just looked it up, I don't really know what to think as to whether he did it or not so I can't really imagine how I'd 'feel about his actions" since it's been thrown out. All I can say is there are many other reasons to dislike Ronaldo and get on his case, alleged rape isn['t one of them as if he was guilty, he wouldn't be on the pitch.

If I remember correctly - he settled out of court rather than go to trial .
There seems to be claims after most matches of inappropriate charts. I don’t understand why people that know what is likely to be said or sung would take the easily offend wife or child into such a situation. Why not go in the family stand and avoid being the West Stand. I am not condoning or condemning any chant but do wonder about the motives of some individuals. I am sure the club would arrange for your season tickets to changed if you wish but please do not continue to take females into any areas where they are liable to offended it’s irresponsible and I won’t listen to the pathetic excuse “ I should be able to go where I want. We all like in the world where sane people avoid areas which they are not safe or comfortable with.

 

[jlove]

Completely agree with that.
But I don't think the songs are "banter", just reminding the man himself what a horrible scumbag he is to throw him off his game, and by all accounts, baring one chest pass, it completely worked.
The Mendy situation was weird because he wasn't actually playing but he was literally in prison for a few months after finally being let out on bail after the 4th attempt and Ronaldo admitted to paying the girl £300,000. Both scumbags so any songs of abuse being sung their way, I'll be joining in with

I'm more inclined to take the input of @OhBeehave on the subject and I think most posters on here would, too.

 

[Infatuated Bees Alter Ego]

If your offended by something, take your phone out and record it. Take pictures of the individual(s). Seat numbers. Evidence and something for the club to work on, as opposed to all this hearsay

 

[BEEcool]

"Jamie Cureton, we'll laugh when you die" I remember being sung away at Dagenham in the 6-6(?)

This belongs on the Chant Bible thread.

 

[nocoat]

If your offended by something, take your phone out and record it. Take pictures of the individual(s). Seat numbers. Evidence and something for the club to work on, as opposed to all this hearsay

@RAF_Patto don't forget your charge pack

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

If I remember correctly - he settled out of court rather than go to trial .
There seems to be claims after most matches of inappropriate charts. I don’t understand why people that know what is likely to be said or sung would take the easily offend wife or child into such a situation. Why not go in the family stand and avoid being the West Stand. I am not condoning or condemning any chant but do wonder about the motives of some individuals. I am sure the club would arrange for your season tickets to changed if you wish but please do not continue to take females into any areas where they are liable to offended it’s irresponsible and I won’t listen to the pathetic excuse “ I should be able to go where I want. We all like in the world where sane people avoid areas which they are not safe or comfortable with.

Kinel. I never knew I had forked out to join a gentleman's club. Must read the small print next time.

 

[RAF_Patto]

And if they only deem what is appropriate after something has happened that they deem inappropriate and ban an individual then thats f***ed up too. For example. If i sing "Let him die." to a player and the club then say AFTERWARDS that it warrants a ban, is that really fair?

the man referred to in the original post was bang out of order. Pretty obvious, why is it obvious, as there is no debate where the line in the sand is on that. Racism - NO DEBATE. But what about all the people singing the ronaldo song or let him die song - should they be banned?

I just dont understand your point here about a line in the sand not mattering.

What I mean, is the line in the sand is for the club to decide.....maybe alongside some comms as to what is deemed unacceptable.

I know they've said in recent comms "bad behaviour" won't be tolerated, but something a little more definitive is needed.......as opposed to people on here bouncing around what each individual deems to be the level!

 

[Nickabee]

Kinel. I never knew I had forked out to join a gentleman's club. Must read the small print next time.

What ! You want to keep taking you wife into a situation where she’s offended - well shame on you if you think that’s the way to go. I just want to get on with staying in the Premiership and for this site not to be used by people regularly complaining where the have set themselves up to be upset. The first post of this thread in my opinion had a justifiable reason to contact the club and hopefully it will be sorted and the fan banned but some of the subsequent post appear to me to be people that could easily avoid what they and guests don’t like , however they repeat the action

 

[Banana]

What ! You want to keep taking you wife into a situation where she’s offended - well shame on you if you think that’s the way to go. I just want to get on with staying in the Premiership and for this site not to be used by people regularly complaining where the have set themselves up to be upset. The first post of this thread in my opinion had a justifiable reason to contact the club and hopefully it will be sorted and the fan banned but some of the subsequent post appear to me to be people that could easily avoid what they and guests don’t like , however they repeat the action

Should women not go out alone at night too?