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How far away is Rico from being fit?
 

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How far is Rico off playing? Seen him in training pics but is he actually in full training now?
 

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No. He's just sitting around doing i) The Times crossword ii) translating the ticketing website into Chinese.

YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST
Actually...does anyone have insight (not sarc) on the question above? Is he in full training? Ful contact? Ready to appear in friendlies? Ready for opening day? Or is he still weeks away? I honestly don't know the answer.
 

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As much as we all love Rico and can't wait to see him back, I can't help but feel that it's the one position on the pitch where we have the highest quality backup (Canos!). Arguably his best position. I'm more interested on who we're going to see at RB to compete with Roerslev.
 

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Feels like Rico is a must start in a 433. Not so sure about him as wing back in a 352.

Defensively superior but does he offer enough going forwards? Doesn’t score and final ball often lacks a bit of composure. Never thought I’d be saying that when he got injured at Coventry but the likes of Canos have given TF a real headache in that position.
 

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As much as we all love Rico and can't wait to see him back, I can't help but feel that it's the one position on the pitch where we have the highest quality backup (Canos!). Arguably his best position. I'm more interested on who we're going to see at RB to compete with Roerslev.
I'd have thought Canós was a more natural back-up at right back...
 

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Feels like Rico is a must start in a 433. Not so sure about him as wing back in a 352.

Defensively superior but does he offer enough going forwards? Doesn’t score and final ball often lacks a bit of composure. Never thought I’d be saying that when he got injured at Coventry but the likes of Canos have given TF a real headache in that position.
Fair points. More positive view, its given TF options to adapt and adjust how he sets us up depending on the circumstances and opposition.
 

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While it's true Rico's final ball can be a bit lacking, his energy and ability to get into insane positions up the left with speed is a huge weapon. And his ability to then get back quickly is an even bigger bonus considering how important transitions are in the Premier League.

That's going to be the big difference and is one reason why we've picked the 2 players we have in this transfer window - turning attack into defence and switching from attacking to defending.

Rico is superb at that with his energy, speed and stamina, as well as his awareness of what is around him. Jensen is also very good at this, and these are traits that are even more important at higher levels, where the opposition is generally a lot better at exploiting gaps in transition.

Hell, that was one of the reasons for the change, globally, to 3 at the back, as it gave more tactical flexibility during those transitions. The FB/WB could push higher, knowing the CB could cover over.

The understanding between Rico and Ethan is going to be key this season.
 

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While it's true Rico's final ball can be a bit lacking, his energy and ability to get into insane positions up the left with speed is a huge weapon. And his ability to then get back quickly is an even bigger bonus considering how important transitions are in the Premier League.

That's going to be the big difference and is one reason why we've picked the 2 players we have in this transfer window - turning attack into defence and switching from attacking to defending.

Rico is superb at that with his energy, speed and stamina, as well as his awareness of what is around him. Jensen is also very good at this, and these are traits that are even more important at higher levels, where the opposition is generally a lot better at exploiting gaps in transition.

Hell, that was one of the reasons for the change, globally, to 3 at the back, as it gave more tactical flexibility during those transitions. The FB/WB could push higher, knowing the CB could cover over.

The understanding between Rico and Ethan is going to be key this season.
If we play 433, yes. If we play 352 there’s much more needed in terms of attacking end product than he has produced consistently. It’s why I think, despite being possibly the best LB in the Championship the last two seasons we’ve not ever had serious enough interest shown by a PL club in buying him to have even started a rumour thread on here.
 

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If we play 433, yes. If we play 352 there’s much more needed in terms of attacking end product than he has produced consistently. It’s why I think, despite being possibly the best LB in the Championship the last two seasons we’ve not ever had serious enough interest shown by a PL club in buying him to have even started a rumour thread on here.
I think in training he should be practicing running down the left and pulling the ball back with a flat pass to a player on the edge of the box. We dont require a curled cross to 1 marked player on the far post. Within a few weeks this type of assist that Roerslev makes look so simple should be second nature.
Potentially Ajer or Onyeka will be arriving late to meet Rico’s crosses with Sergi offering an option outside/inside too
 

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I'd have thought Canós was a more natural back-up at right back...
But he isn’t is he, he cuts in beautifully from LWB, it’s his best position IMO. Gives him space to run with his head down from the defence, cut in and cause havoc. Did you miss the end of last season? 😆
 
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But he isn’t is he, he cuts in beautifully from LWB, it’s his best position IMO. Gives him space to run with his head down from the defence, cut in and cause havoc. Did you miss the end of last season? 😆
Completely agree with this.

if he played RWB he’d either have to cut inside on his weaker left foot (negates his impact of shooting or picking a pass from the edge of the box) or try to get to the byline (can’t see him having the pace to beat most premier league left backs).
 

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I think in training he should be practicing running down the left and pulling the ball back with a flat pass to a player on the edge of the box. We dont require a curled cross to 1 marked player on the far post. Within a few weeks this type of assist that Roerslev makes look so simple should be second nature.
Potentially Ajer or Onyeka will be arriving late to meet Rico’s crosses with Sergi offering an option outside/inside too

An important point to make is that Roerslev was making these crosses after we switched formation because Rico was out. So it was a new tactic we’ve not seen Rico play. He might be a beast at it.
 

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An important point to make is that Roerslev was making these crosses after we switched formation because Rico was out. So it was a new tactic we’ve not seen Rico play. He might be a beast at it.
He was doing them in preseason last season (iirc we scored from at least one v West Ham) both back into the edge of the area and short to Canos inside for Canos to pull back/cross/shoot, but they rarely materialised in game during the season.
 

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But he isn’t is he, he cuts in beautifully from LWB, it’s his best position IMO. Gives him space to run with his head down from the defence, cut in and cause havoc. Did you miss the end of last season? 😆
As a wide attacker in a 4-3-3, he plays as an inverted winger as that's our style of play. As a full back, you'd want a right-footed player on the right, not on the left. As a wing back, if you need to be more defensive – which we'll need to be in the PL – you don't want your wing back to be drifting inside; it means the LCB gets pulled out, away from his defensive zone.
 

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As a wide attacker in a 4-3-3, he plays as an inverted winger as that's our style of play. As a full back, you'd want a right-footed player on the right, not on the left. As a wing back, if you need to be more defensive – which we'll need to be in the PL – you don't want your wing back to be drifting inside; it means the LCB gets pulled out, away from his defensive zone.
Hmm that sounds very matter of fact, and goes against what we witnessed end of last season entirely. O well. opinions init. :backtotopic:
 

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As a wide attacker in a 4-3-3, he plays as an inverted winger as that's our style of play. As a full back, you'd want a right-footed player on the right, not on the left. As a wing back, if you need to be more defensive – which we'll need to be in the PL – you don't want your wing back to be drifting inside; it means the LCB gets pulled out, away from his defensive zone.
Can’t one be an inverted LWB? Can’t the RWB tuck into the RCB when the LWB goes forward (and vice versa) so as to allow for the LCB to move over and still keep the defensive zones covered? If you play with two 6s it allows for that defensive cover.
 

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Can’t one be an inverted LWB? Can’t the RWB tuck into the RCB when the LWB goes forward (and vice versa) so as to allow for the LCB to move over and still keep the defensive zones covered? If you play with two 6s it allows for that defensive cover.
All things are possible. I'm just pointing out that a full back is at a disadvantage and disadvantages those around him if he's not on his 'natural' side. Rico, or any other left-footed player, is naturally going to stay wider left and tackle from the correct direction and is therefore more likely to prevent crosses from wide advanced positions.

We're going to need to defend better and for a greater percentage of the game than we've been used to in the last couple of seasons.
 

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All things are possible. I'm just pointing out that a full back is at a disadvantage and disadvantages those around him if he's not on his 'natural' side. Rico, or any other left-footed player, is naturally going to stay wider left and tackle from the correct direction and is therefore more likely to prevent crosses from wide advanced positions.

We're going to need to defend better and for a greater percentage of the game than we've been used to in the last couple of seasons.
True, though from our recruitment I suspect our defensive core will be 3CBs and 2DMs and the WBs will be more wing than back.
 

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All things are possible. I'm just pointing out that a full back is at a disadvantage and disadvantages those around him if he's not on his 'natural' side. Rico, or any other left-footed player, is naturally going to stay wider left and tackle from the correct direction and is therefore more likely to prevent crosses from wide advanced positions.

We're going to need to defend better and for a greater percentage of the game than we've been used to in the last couple of seasons.

It's not uncommon these days to have very effective inverted wing backs - particularly if you're playing against inverted wingers/inside forwards who tend to cut in... something we've done for several seasons now.

Not only were Spinazzola and Maehle the best FBs/WBs at the Euros, they were probably among the top five players too.

Whilst I wouldn't really expect to see him used there often, I thought Canos put in a decent shift on each occasion he played there given his lack of defensive experience.
 

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It's not uncommon these days to have very effective inverted wing backs - particularly if you're playing against inverted wingers/inside forwards who tend to cut in... something we've done for several seasons now.

Not only were Spinazzola and Maehle the best FBs/WBs at the Euros, they were probably among the top five players too.

Whilst I wouldn't really expect to see him used there often, I thought Canos put in a decent shift on each occasion he played there given his lack of defensive experience.
I worry about playing players out of position in the Premier League. Putting in a "Decent Shift" may not be quite enough against top wingers.
 

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I worry about playing players out of position in the Premier League. Putting in a "Decent Shift" may not be quite enough against top wingers.
I agree - merely saying he didn't do too badly last season when playing there.
 

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I worry about playing players out of position in the Premier League. Putting in a "Decent Shift" may not be quite enough against top wingers.
Many modern players are able to play multiple positions. Norgaard looked like he’d played CB all his life. At the top levels some play quite different roles between club and country.
 

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Many modern players are able to play multiple positions. Norgaard looked like he’d played CB all his life. At the top levels some play quite different roles between club and country.
Well that's as maybe, the names that have been mentioned here may struggle against top line opposition. Of course extra players will cost money, and forward planning may necessitate playing some out of position at least for a while.
 

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Well that's as maybe, the names that have been mentioned here may struggle against top line opposition.
Most might.
 

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If Rico is fit he starts. The lad is a class act. We are saying his final ball is poor, i think hes the one who is held back for defensive cover and HD was the aggressor in our back line. I dont think we've seen Rico's full potential going forward. When he does he is an absolute menace.
 

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True, though from our recruitment I suspect our defensive core will be 3CBs and 2DMs and the WBs will be more wing than back.
This is what I would think. Gives you the option of playing deeper and playing on the counter against Top 6 teams but then also playing an attacking wingback system against teams we can go toe to toe with
 

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Personally I'm really looking forward to his match-up with Kyle Walker. KW would beat Rico in a drag race as he has far more power over 20/30 yards, but if Rico can start his runs earlier when Walker is still static I think (with the right ball) he'd have enough momentum to beat him.
 

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Personally I'm really looking forward to his match-up with Kyle Walker. KW would beat Rico in a drag race as he has far more power over 20/30 yards, but if Rico can start his runs earlier when Walker is still static I think (with the right ball) he'd have enough momentum to beat him.
Depends on how heavy their costumes are.
 

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