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Thought I'd have a quick trawl through last summers rumours just in case there was anyone in there we might still be interested in who stood out.

William Saliba - CB (Arsenal) - rumours that we wanted him on loan. He went out to Nice instead. Did well and Nice interested but Arsenal reportedly still want to keep him.
Hayden Roberts - CB (Brighton) (19) - went on loan to Rochdale in League One.

Oskar Buur - RB (Wolves) - (23) - Went on loan to Grasshoppers - Danish - Not sure we'd be interested now given Roerslev's form.
Alex Georgen - RB (22) - Signed for auxerre but only played 1 league game for them.
Fred Guilbert - RB (Villa) (26) - Out on loan to Strasbourg - played 13 games in Ligue 1 - Could still be on our radar?

Yasser Larouci - LB (Liverpool) - (20) - Contract expires end of June - Galatasaray apparently interested..
Nesta Guinness-Walker LB (AFC wimbledon) - 21 - possible option if Thompson goes?

Anis Ben Slimane - CM (Brondby) (20) - Danish - Seems like he was one of the players we were looking at along with Janelt? Signed a new contract in 2020
Dejan Lubicic - DM - Similar to above. Just signed on a free for FC Koln.
Barry Bannan - CM - haha..
Alex Pritchard - CM - hahahaha...

Pione Sisto - Winger - FCM - (26) - random rumour involving us buying him and loaning him back to FCM. Signed for FCM. Could still be on our radar now we're up? Doesn't look like he's had that great a season at FCM. 5 goals and 2 assists in the league.
Robin Hack - Winger - Stayed at Nuremburg. Had a decent season but not as good as previous year. Maybe still on our radar?
Siriki Dembele - winger/striker - Peterborough (24) - cracking season for promoted Peterborough but maybe too much of a step up now we're PL?
Crysencio Summerville - winger - joined Leeds. Did pretty well.. in PL2!! no first team appearances..
Haissem Hassan - winger - (19) - Joined Villareal B and had limited impact by the looks of things.
Harry Wilson - Winger - (24) - Had a great season at Cardiff. Given his age is he going to get a start for Liverpool any time soon? Rumours Liverpool may want to sell.

Pierre Yves-Hamel - (27) - Lorient - Not a great season in ligue 1 with only 4 goals. Think we can write this one off..
Falorin Balogun - Signed new contract with Arsenal.

There were a fair few more but these were the ones that stood out really. Not sure there's an awful lot on there that we'd still be interested in tbh. Might have a look at January rumours if I'm really bored later.. (unless someone else fancies doing that?)
 

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Might Barry Bannan be on the cards again? Signed a new contract but surely he ain't sticking with Wednesday in League One.

If SWFC haven’t paid their players, they can give two weeks notice and walk away for nothing!
 

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Not Bannon in the Premier League no. I do really like him as a player though, the only good part of their side that lost that final Griffin Park game which had fans.
 

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Might Barry Bannan be on the cards again? Signed a new contract but surely he ain't sticking with Wednesday in League One.

Here we go again. :rolleyes:

He is not Premier League quality.
 
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Might Barry Bannan be on the cards again? Signed a new contract but surely he ain't sticking with Wednesday in League One.

I was going to leave him off the list as there's no way that will happen. There were a few others on there including Chuba Akpom!! :LOL:
 

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I was going to leave him off the list as there's no way that will happen. There were a few others on there including Chuba Akpom!! :LOL:
I've clearly irked some people here!
If Bannan was seen as a good Championship player that seriously interested us.... and Rasmus says the Championship and PL are not so far apart.... and he is facing dropping down a division, it wouldn't totally shock me. I appreciate we have better CM options that where we were a year ago and I guess if the PL has never come calling for him in all those years at Sheff Wed there may be a good reason for that.
 

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I've clearly irked some people here!
If Bannan was seen as a good Championship player that seriously interested us.... and Rasmus says the Championship and PL are not so far apart.... and he is facing dropping down a division, it wouldn't totally shock me. I appreciate we have better CM options that where we were a year ago and I guess if the PL has never come calling for him in all those years at Sheff Wed there may be a good reason for that.
He could probably do a job for us but the club always tries to recruit for where it wants to be rather than where it is. So last summer Bannan was a possibility as someone who could contribute to promotion. He’s not someone who could really be part of a PL club looking to establish itself just outside that top 8 with a very good season sneaking us into it. I have no doubt the club’s sights are set that high for next season and beyond to break into that elite group even if we might in fact end up the other end of the table next season. Just as when we went up in 2014 most of us would have been happy just fitting in and avoiding relegation without too much worry, the club always has higher ambitions and expectations. It also makes the tough decisions and if we won’t try too hard to hold on to two of the key out of contract players in the Final (cf Donaldson) we aren’t going to bring in a lesser player.
 

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If Bannan was seen as a good Championship player that seriously interested us....
Bannan caught the eye as one of the better players – but not the best – in a **** Wednesday side but reports of our interest were sparked by a Scottish newspaper interview where he complimented our style of play that got Owls fans agitated. He's a League 1 player now and I'd guess he may get a Premiership opportunity... but not a Premier League one!
 
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Only one id consider now is Harry Wilson, and even he would be a bit of a gamble on potential. He did not set the world alight at Cardiff
 
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I've clearly irked some people here!
If Bannan was seen as a good Championship player that seriously interested us.... and Rasmus says the Championship and PL are not so far apart.... and he is facing dropping down a division, it wouldn't totally shock me. I appreciate we have better CM options that where we were a year ago and I guess if the PL has never come calling for him in all those years at Sheff Wed there may be a good reason for that.

Wasn't having a go. It's just that we've now got a much bigger pot to spend plus the very persuasive option of playing in the Premier League and it opens up new pools to fish in. Our recruitment has been top notch but we can really push it up a level here. It's massively exciting. Will we try and pick up some 'fringe' or young PL players, pick up some players from Ligue 1/Bundesliga etc or carry on trying to pick up young players from UK and across the globe? If we start off our Premier League recruitment by giving Reid a contract and signing Barry Bannan then I think we're all going to be massively disappointed.
 

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Only one id consider now is Harry Wilson, and even he would be a bit of a gamble on potential. He did not set the world alight at Cardiff

I think he'd be a good option. He needs a home now, not another loan. Similar to IT in that regard, which is why I think he has struggled on occasion.

Harvey Elliot is another Red worth looking at, although I don't think Lpool are in the market to be selling him and I'm not entirely sure he would be PL ready for a loan to us, maybe next season if we survive.
 

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Only one id consider now is Harry Wilson, and even he would be a bit of a gamble on potential. He did not set the world alight at Cardiff
He seems to be one of those players that has some good qualities but never seems to find the right role in any team to make best use of them. A bit like Marcondes...
 

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He seems to be one of those players that has some good qualities but never seems to find the right role in any team to make best use of them. A bit like Marcondes...
He was sent to Bournemouth to learn the ‘dark arts’, and thence to Cardiff to use them! 24 now, so a good age for us, but he must be dropping down the pecking order at Liverpool, season after season. Someone popped on here that Barca want Liverpool to take Coutinho back, because they can’t afford the instalments. There might be a deal to be done...
 

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Wasn't having a go. It's just that we've now got a much bigger pot to spend plus the very persuasive option of playing in the Premier League and it opens up new pools to fish in. Our recruitment has been top notch but we can really push it up a level here. It's massively exciting. Will we try and pick up some 'fringe' or young PL players, pick up some players from Ligue 1/Bundesliga etc or carry on trying to pick up young players from UK and across the globe? If we start off our Premier League recruitment by giving Reid a contract and signing Barry Bannan then I think we're all going to be massively disappointed.
That's fine and no offence taken. I'm not advocating his signing either merely thought it was a story that might return but happy to be set straight.
I kind of laughed as I also advocated Brentford B playing in the paint pot late yesterday knowing I was going against the grain of that thread, and I was surprised people seemed rather more more animated about me mentioning Bannan :D
 

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Wilson and Elliot would suit us. Both technically very good.

We need players with pace and threat to play off Toney. We have Bryan and Sergi but we need another two options IMO.
 

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For us to make the most of set pieces earned by us running at defences, we already have Ivan taking penalties. But I feel it is as vital to have an equally dangerous set piece taker such as Harry Wilson, or even better would be someone less in the spotlight who has the ability to hit the top bin when given the opportunity.
 

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Wilson and Elliot would suit us. Both technically very good.

We need players with pace and threat to play off Toney. We have Bryan and Sergi but we need another two options IMO.

I Like Damjuma at Bournmouth (but probably on big money already). Plus Reading have a couple of very decent (attacking) players...
 

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Only one id consider now is Harry Wilson, and even he would be a bit of a gamble on potential. He did not set the world alight at Cardiff
I’ll be honest I’m not as impressed with him as some, he didn’t boss it at Cardiff, huge hype and highly rated but very patchy by all accounts at Championship level. If anyone can get the best out of him if his stats are good it may be us but we can’t have luxury players who don’t either create lots or score lots next season
 
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Carrying on from the Summer thread, here's a quick summary of the Jan Rumours. Trawling back through the thread there weren't really many concrete rumours. Most names were suggestions or pretty tenuous links. We apparently did go for a few though so wonder if any of those are on this list that we might go back to?


Defenders

Harry Pickering - LB - signed for Blackburn Rovers


Mid

Frank Onyeka – DM – 23 – FCM - Still ongoing speculation about this one but do we need another DM?

Lukas Lerager - CM - Ended up at Copenhagen after protracted discussions with various clubs including bees.

Callum Styles – LM – 21 – Barnsley – Strong links to us but not sure where he'd fit in? On a long contract.

Ben Pearson CM – 26 – Bournemouth – Barnsley midfielder, signed for Bournemouth. Big mistake!!

Idris El Mizouni – AM – 20 – Ipswich – Went on loan to Grimsby – 2 assists in 21 games doesn't look great for an AM.. Prob B team target if anything.

Ilias Chair – AM – 23 – QPR – Another good season for Ilias at QPR. Wouldn't be cheap but with Marcondes going there's a vacant position. Could they end up swapping places?


Wingers

Anthony Gordon - Winger (Everton) (20) - signed on loan for Preston and didn't really set the world alight.

Kwadwo Baah - Rochdale (18) - winger - signing for Watford. Think this was more a suggestion than a rumour anyway.

Stephy Mavividi – LW/ATT - Montpelier – 9 goals from the wing for Montpelier. Is English so would add to home grown numbers. Could be worth another look? Seems like he started as a striker but has been moved wide.. Shades of Thierry Henry?

Husein Balic – LW/ATT – LASK – Apparenly quick, not particularly concrete rumours, 3 goals and 5 assists in the Bundesliga.


Strikers

Nathan Young-Coombes - Striker (18) - according to Transfermarkt his contract expired on 31st May. Was linked with us early in the year and we had supposedly reached an agreement with Rangers for him. All gone quite since then. Imagine we'll find out shortly! Would be B team signing.


Falorin Balogun – AGAIN...

Randall Kolo Muoni – Striker – 22 – Nantes – Seemed to fit the ideal Bees player profile. Ended up with 9 goals and 8 assists in Ligue 1 last season. Also plays right wing..
 

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If I was knocking on Reading‘s door Lucas Joao might be the first name I would want to mention

2 goals in his last 15. Im not sure if he was made to look better with their fast start. Does it show that in a decent side he would score bundles or that hes not actually that good and the start of this season was a flash in the pan.

Never impressed me when ive seen him live.
 

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Or 5 in his last 20.
 

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2 goals in his last 15. Im not sure if he was made to look better with their fast start. Does it show that in a decent side he would score bundles or that hes not actually that good and the start of this season was a flash in the pan.

Never impressed me when ive seen him live.
I do think there is a consistency problem but when he is on the top of his game, I thought he was unplayable. His height at 6’4 would cause problems and help Ivan by who would mark him, the 2nd best defender? Joao could be the more mobile of the 2, allowing Ivan to stay more central, a bit like the Harry Kane problem currently
 

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Michael Olise, Callum Sytles, Taylor Harwood Bellis and Ovie Ejaria would be gettable .. Harvey Elliot on loan possibly. Armstrong is probs out of our reach
 

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He scored 19 goals in 36 games this season, I would love to know how many he would get if he wasn’t so lazy
He’s nowhere near mobile enough or quick enough for the Premier League in my humble opinion and not 100% they were all scored in the league but better record than I thought as not prolific
 

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Michael Olise, Callum Sytles, Taylor Harwood Bellis and Ovie Ejaria would be gettable .. Harvey Elliot on loan possibly. Armstrong is probs out of our reach
Ejaria has always stood out when we’ve played reading, he has incredible skill, I would love to get him
 

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I do think there is a consistency problem but when he is on the top of his game, I thought he was unplayable. His height at 6’4 would cause problems and help Ivan by who would mark him, the 2nd best defender? Joao could be the more mobile of the 2, allowing Ivan to stay more central, a bit like the Harry Kane problem currently
Joao looked very decent in the games I saw him play but not particularly a team player. There were a few times where he had a relatively straightforward opportunity and seemed almost bored by the idea of taking it so instead tried and failed to do something more audacious. There’s a player there but last season looks an outlier after scoring 3-10 goals in his five previous seasons in the Championship. At 27 I think he’s not at all our sort of buy at Championship level let alone PL.
 

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Joao looked very decent in the games I saw him play but not particularly a team player. There were a few times where he had a relatively straightforward opportunity and seemed almost bored by the idea of taking it so instead tried and failed to do something more audacious. There’s a player there but last season looks an outlier after scoring 3-10 goals in his five previous seasons in the Championship. At 27 I think he’s not at all our sort of buy at Championship level let alone PL.
Yeah I agree his age isnt what we go for normally, but I wonder if we might adjust our usual target age slightly for this window. I think spending on players who will be great in 18 months time, for once isnt the highest priority. They will need to have a positive effect on our team in this forthcoming season, though maybe not from the very beginning.
I do agree turning 28 in September makes him less of an option for us
 

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Only one id consider now is Harry Wilson, and even he would be a bit of a gamble on potential. He did not set the world alight at Cardiff
Not sure their style suited him, to be honest. I think he could be a decent signing for us. He was in the same Liverpool youth team as Ryan Kent and Ejaria, both of whom could also be interesting.
 

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Thought I'd have a quick trawl through last summers rumours just in case there was anyone in there we might still be interested in who stood out.

William Saliba - CB (Arsenal) - rumours that we wanted him on loan. He went out to Nice instead. Did well and Nice interested but Arsenal reportedly still want to keep him.
Hayden Roberts - CB (Brighton) (19) - went on loan to Rochdale in League One.

Oskar Buur - RB (Wolves) - (23) - Went on loan to Grasshoppers - Danish - Not sure we'd be interested now given Roerslev's form.
Alex Georgen - RB (22) - Signed for auxerre but only played 1 league game for them.
Fred Guilbert - RB (Villa) (26) - Out on loan to Strasbourg - played 13 games in Ligue 1 - Could still be on our radar?

Yasser Larouci - LB (Liverpool) - (20) - Contract expires end of June - Galatasaray apparently interested..
Nesta Guinness-Walker LB (AFC wimbledon) - 21 - possible option if Thompson goes?

Anis Ben Slimane - CM (Brondby) (20) - Danish - Seems like he was one of the players we were looking at along with Janelt? Signed a new contract in 2020
Dejan Lubicic - DM - Similar to above. Just signed on a free for FC Koln.
Barry Bannan - CM - haha..
Alex Pritchard - CM - hahahaha...

Pione Sisto - Winger - FCM - (26) - random rumour involving us buying him and loaning him back to FCM. Signed for FCM. Could still be on our radar now we're up? Doesn't look like he's had that great a season at FCM. 5 goals and 2 assists in the league.
Robin Hack - Winger - Stayed at Nuremburg. Had a decent season but not as good as previous year. Maybe still on our radar?
Siriki Dembele - winger/striker - Peterborough (24) - cracking season for promoted Peterborough but maybe too much of a step up now we're PL?
Crysencio Summerville - winger - joined Leeds. Did pretty well.. in PL2!! no first team appearances..
Haissem Hassan - winger - (19) - Joined Villareal B and had limited impact by the looks of things.
Harry Wilson - Winger - (24) - Had a great season at Cardiff. Given his age is he going to get a start for Liverpool any time soon? Rumours Liverpool may want to sell.

Pierre Yves-Hamel - (27) - Lorient - Not a great season in ligue 1 with only 4 goals. Think we can write this one off..
Falorin Balogun - Signed new contract with Arsenal.

There were a fair few more but these were the ones that stood out really. Not sure there's an awful lot on there that we'd still be interested in tbh. Might have a look at January rumours if I'm really bored later.. (unless someone else fancies doing that?)

It seems things have changed at Arsenal regarding Saliba maybe connected to the rumours about the possible signing of Ben White
 

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Olise would fit our Model ....... 19, 1 Year left on Contract and although played for France U18 was born in Hammersmith.
Also, after Reading first went up to the PL with a bunch of ex-Bees it’d be quite nice to return the favour.
 

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Based on what (I think) Rasmus said, we will probably be looking at players who are not only skilful but also athletic. In fact, it could be argued that the athletic aspect is the more important one. I'm sure many of the players identified here fall into that category, but I don't think all of them do.
 
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