Ryan Woods (Birmingham City)

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Interesting debate amongst the Millwall fans as to why Woods hasn’t featured the last two games.
Seems they are confused about his role,can’t really defend and limited going forward,and has to play a specific role as he had at Brentford.
Maybe another example of Brentford getting the best out of a player and selling for top dollar.
I think the Brighton fans might be concurring.
 
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Bet he regrets that move to Stoke
I think he made good money out of it, got to move home and we’d have sold him to someone of that level a year later even if he‘d stayed.
 

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Could and should have been higher. Stoke move turned out to be a poor one.

Sad how some of our favourites end up after choosing to leave us for ‘greener pastures’ which turn out to be coated in manure. Reminds me of Toums. Goes to Leeds halfway through the season. Next season, he played one game, got binned, and ended up training with Leeds’ U-23 squad :(

He now plays for Morecambe :(
 

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Hope he has a great season next year but Brum still get relegated.

Perhaps then he could move to a club that is not quite as vile.
 

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Hope he has a great season next year but Brum still get relegated.

Perhaps then he could move to a club that is not quite as vile.
Would be good! Though in a way even better for them just to have another miserable struggle to set them up for yet another rather than possibly revitalising down in L1 which at least their ex-Bees are far too good for.
 

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Was he out of contact or was a fee involved, or even a free transfer ?
As 'Bagman' says, a Free.

And with their Parachute payments running out last season, Stoke are desperate to reduce their wage bill for FFP purposes. Various managers signed loads of players for big transfer fees on PL wages, often over 3 or 4 year contracts without relegation clauses, meaning they've not been able to shift them. (The best they've been able to do is lend them out, I suspect while subsidising their wages at the borrowing club)

If you look at what Swiss Ramble says, their finances are in a right mess, eg in 2019/20 , their loss after tax was £86m! 😲
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Brilliant when he was here limited in some ways. But still served the club well. I wish him all the best.
 

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Sad how some of our favourites end up after choosing to leave us for ‘greener pastures’ which turn out to be coated in manure. Reminds me of Toums. Goes to Leeds halfway through the season. Next season, he played one game, got binned, and ended up training with Leeds’ U-23 squad :(

He now plays for Morecambe :(
He’s 34, still playing professionally and has just won promotion to League One…
 

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As 'Bagman' says, a Free.

And with their Parachute payments running out last season, Stoke are desperate to reduce their wage bill for FFP purposes. Various managers signed loads of players for big transfer fees on PL wages, often over 3 or 4 year contracts without relegation clauses, meaning they've not been able to shift them. (The best they've been able to do is lend them out, I suspect while subsidising their wages at the borrowing club)

If you look at what Swiss Ramble says, their finances are in a right mess, eg in 2019/20 , their loss after tax was £86m! 😲
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They do have an owner who only earned £500m is last financial year though.
 

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Because he left brentford and his career has gone downhill
If he'd stayed it would have likely gone the same direction, he's maintained game time in a mid table Championship team. That's his ceiling and needs to earn as much as possible whilst at that level with game time.
 

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If he'd stayed it would have likely gone the same direction, he's maintained game time in a mid table Championship team. That's his ceiling and needs to earn as much as possible whilst at that level with game time.
I think the club is good at getting top dollar for sideways moves for players they believe have hit their plateau. Stoke that season were one of the promotion favourites so had they not been really badly managed on the pitch, Ryan might have got a step up (cf Romaine to WBA) but I don’t think the club saw him as PL quality. Which he wasn’t. No shame in that, being a regular Championship starter puts him higher than most Bees of the last 70 years!
 

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They do have an owner who only earned £500m is last financial year though.
Oh there's no doubt Stoke are "good for the money" - as well as being hugely wealthy, the Coates family are Benham-like in their dedication to their club.

Unfortunately however, their stewardship of the club in recent years has been anything but Benham-like, hence the mess they're in now.

But unlike eg Derby, they accept that they have to sort their finances out before they can rebuild their team and challenge on the pitch again - hence eg Woods leaving on a free, after going out on loan.
 

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He’s 34, still playing professionally and has just won promotion to League One…
I think we were always looking to get rid of Toumani in the longer run - I think the club were surprised at how well he adapted to the Championship but perhaps didn't think he could sustain it over several seasons. We wanted to upgrade so when Leeds came along with £1+ offer we bit their hands off. No doubt Toumani got a good pay rise out of that move too.
 
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I know we were midtable when he played for us but he was quality in our midfield, one of the reasons why we always looked like a promotion chasing side. Shame his career has taken a downward trajectory as he'd be great for clubs like Swansea or Sheff Utd
 

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Sent off for Birmingham City with eight minutes to go of their 0-0 draw at Coventry.
 

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Can actually see the refs train of thought (serious foul play) but I still would be going yellow. He's probably taken derby match, 0-0, last ten minutes, no attempt whatsoever for the ball, lunges from behind and swipes him down (look at the leg that takes him, he is swinging it rather than attempting to trip). That last point does literally cover SFP) which is why I think he went red.

 
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