Ryan Woods (Birmingham City)

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Can actually see the refs train of thought (serious foul play) but I still would be going yellow. He's probably taken derby match, 0-0, last ten minutes, no attempt whatsoever for the ball, lunges from behind and swipes him down (look at the leg that takes him, he is swinging it rather than attempting to trip). That last point does literally cover SFP) which is why I think he went red.

Looks a yellow from the first angle. But when you see the reverse angle, how high up his leg he caught him and which leg Woods caught, I don't think there can be too many complaints.
 

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I think it’s called stopping a goal scoring chance but anyway it has been discussed for many years so you are probably aware of it.
 

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Looks a yellow from the first angle. But when you see the reverse angle, how high up his leg he caught him and which leg Woods caught, I don't think there can be too many complaints.
Thats why I said look at the leg that catches him.. wasn't a trip. It was much more.
 

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I think it’s called stopping a goal scoring chance but anyway it has been discussed for many years so you are probably aware of it.
When considering Denying Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunities (DOGSO) you need to factor a few things:
  1. distance between the offence and the goal
  2. general direction of the play
  3. likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
  4. location and number of defenders
Distance between the foul and the goal straight away would rule a red card out for this as it occurred in Coventrys own half. There is still very much a lot to do, and with a defender defender bypass and another running in line with, there is still every chance of the defending team doing their job. The distance does not make it an obvious scoring chance.

I do agree that fouls out here should be reds too, the LOTG don't expect it.
 

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Thats why I said look at the leg that catches him.. wasn't a trip. It was much more.
I’m mystified by the protest that Ryan Woods made when he was shown the red card. Maybe he protested like that for entertainment purposes. He deliberately brought down a player, from behind, in possession of the ball when he had absolutely no chance of getting anywhere near to the ball himself. It wasn’t merely mis-timed. Furthermore he denied the opposition an advanced attacking opportunity, and incidentally, could have injured the player. Is that just a yellow card now?
 

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I’m mystified by the protest that Ryan Woods made when he was shown the red card. Maybe he protested like that for entertainment purposes. He deliberately brought down a player, from behind, in possession of the ball when he had absolutely no chance of getting anywhere near to the ball himself. It wasn’t merely mis-timed. Furthermore he denied the opposition an advanced attacking opportunity, and incidentally, could have injured the player. Is that just a yellow card now?
Bowyer argued in the post match interview that Woods was “taking one for the team” (his actual words) and it happens in games week-in week-out and it gets punished with a yellow card, and he’s right. Difference with this one for me however was that Woods made absolutely zero, and I mean zero, attempt at trying to disguise it because he was so far away from the player, he couldn’t. It wasn’t particularly dangerous but I don’t think any level of dangerous play is acceptable when you have zero chance of winning the ball in the process.
 

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Attempting to remove an opponent’s leg muscle seems dangerous to me.
 

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I thought it was a dreadful challenge and deserved a red. He's become just another Brum thug!
 

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When considering Denying Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunities (DOGSO) you need to factor a few things:
  1. distance between the offence and the goal
  2. general direction of the play
  3. likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
  4. location and number of defenders
Distance between the foul and the goal straight away would rule a red card out for this as it occurred in Coventrys own half. There is still very much a lot to do, and with a defender defender bypass and another running in line with, there is still every chance of the defending team doing their job. The distance does not make it an obvious scoring chance.

I do agree that fouls out here should be reds too, the LOTG don't expect it.
It was in the half of the pitch that Coventry were attacking . Woods was in the half his team were defending
 

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No attempt at the ball, foul from behind. Surely a red card every time?

It was a dangerous, out of control swipe with the sole intention of stopping a Coventry break by any means. Technically not the last man but there were runners with the Cov lad, was it was a goal scoring chance maybe not by the laws but it was serious foul play and the ref got it right.

I like Woods but was glad he got sent off for it; it was so obvious and so championship what he did and only got annoyed when the ref caught his plan out and sent him off, after the tackle he looked happy what he'd done.
 

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They should all be sent off for wearing that kit. Absolutely revolting.

Tricky decision that for me. I’d probably go with red.
 

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It’s one of those situations where the Birmingham fans are outraged at the red card .. but had it been Deeney fouled like that by a Coventry player with a few mins to go they would have been screaming for a red.
I also think cynical tackles should be outlawed from the game and if a player is a certain distance from the penalty box when cynically fouled, a pen should be given
 

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It’s one of those situations where the Birmingham fans are outraged at the red card .. but had it been Deeney fouled like that by a Coventry player with a few mins to go they would have been screaming for a red.
I also think cynical tackles should be outlawed from the game and if a player is a certain distance from the penalty box when cynically fouled, a pen should be given
How would the officials measure that distance?
 

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That isnt your average cynical take down, his foot is too high with studs making it potentially dangerous. If it isnt deemed a red card in the rule book then it should be
 

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Clear red. No attempt at all to play the ball. Cynical and could easily have caused serious injury. Not sure why he was arguing about it except yo waste time while his team mates got instructions about re-grouping. Ref should further report him for not leaving the pitch immediately.
 

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He was always a big favourite of mine, very consistent shame his moves haven't really worked out for him.
That move certainly didn’t work! His usual was to throw himself and try to grab the player’s shorts but I guess he was just too far away for that.
 

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He was always a big favourite of mine, very consistent shame his moves haven't really worked out for him.
Earns loads, lives close to family, is now in his seventh season in the Championship playing regularly. The moves have been fine as he was never really PL quality and we’ve done pretty decently out of it too.
 

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He was always a big favourite of mine, very consistent shame his moves haven't really worked out for him.
To be honest I was never a great Ryan fan. Defensively limited and offered little going forward. Neat and tidy and master of the easy pass. Had a couple of decent seasons with us and we got top dollar. To think we trousered around 25 million for the ex Bees playing for Birmingham last night!
Brilliant as ever from our dofs.
 

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I don't know if it's that Pat Butcher away kit but I thought he was carrying a bit of timber the other night.......would explain the Sunday lg nature of the challenge.
 
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