Saïd Benrahma (West Ham)

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Yes, in this report, but you have to trail back over a period of months to see all the reported comments from Moyes in various places, about what he has been expecting from Benrahma.
Moyes has been consistently saying that he expects more from Benrahma, and whether he inferred commitment or buying into the Moyes/West Ham way of doing things, then Moyes has been making that point for months.

Hence, why Benrahma has been coming off the bench so often.

Another earlier report about Moyes and Benrahma -
"Benrahma has been dipped in and out of the West Ham side by Moyes since signing from Brentford.
The Scot has taken a taskmaster approach towards Benrahma, demanding more from him in almost every area."


When he left us, Said was literally ‘the Bees knees".

He believed he was the shining star, and that everyone at West Ham would cluster around him.
That he was an automatic choice for being on the team sheet. That he would be allowed to go on his tricky dribble, and that if he lost the ball or didn’t track back, then he would be forgiven because of his talent.

Moyes isn’t that type of manager. He wants it his way, and you are going to play to my plan, not yours.

Therefore, Said soon realised that he may have achieved his PL dreams, but that instead of coasting on his skill, that he would have to work even harder, be even more focussed, and above all listen to what his manager is demanding of him.

So one goal later after many months, he is seeing what he has to do to fit in at this level.
He is no longer the ‘star’ of the team, but a squad player who has to work even harder for the team.

I am not criticising him, just saying that the step up required is an important learning lesson for him, as it has been for others before, and will always be.

Look at the other talented players we’ve had, who were doing so well with us, but failed to make the step up.
Jota and Hogan of recent years failed to make it count for themselves.

Ollie has been a good example of a player who’s pushed himself to achieve even more at a higher tougher level, Maupay pushes himself in his ‘angry man’ mode, and Gray has sustained a career at a higher level for a number of years, and is now back up again in the PL with the Watford squad.

I think that Said will now go on to show his qualities even more, and probably because of the realisation of the tough regime of what is expected at the top level.
Bottom line is Moyes has managed Benrahma very poorly and undermined his confidence when he should have been trying to build it up. One wrong pass or wide shot and hes slating him or dropping him from the next game whilst others seemingly get away with far worse.
Ollie on the other hand has got to play every game and has a manager that encourages him.
If we go up id take Benrahma back in a heartbeat... Best player ive seen in a Bees shirt bar none!
 

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Bottom line is Moyes has managed Benrahma very poorly and undermined his confidence when he should have been trying to build it up. One wrong pass or wide shot and hes slating him or dropping him from the next game whilst others seemingly get away with far worse.
Ollie on the other hand has got to play every game and has a manager that encourages him.
If we go up id take Benrahma back in a heartbeat... Best player ive seen in a Bees shirt bar none!


I don't think anyone can criticise moyes this season, SB has shown flashes but has not stepped up yet. His first goal should set him on his way, no other players have suffered under his management.
 

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Bottom line is Moyes has managed Benrahma very poorly and undermined his confidence when he should have been trying to build it up. One wrong pass or wide shot and hes slating him or dropping him from the next game whilst others seemingly get away with far worse.
Ollie on the other hand has got to play every game and has a manager that encourages him.
If we go up id take Benrahma back in a heartbeat... Best player ive seen in a Bees shirt bar none!
I’m not buying that. Moyes has had a great season, and I don’t think you’d excuse him of mismanaging any of their other players. I think Said is exceptional but does blow hot and cold, I think he’s about the blow hot with any luck.
 

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I find it interesting that when you watch him play , he gets himself in positions for very simple passes with senior team mates and they blank him. Either they don’t trust him or Moyes has instilled something in them which makes them not trust him . I mean I’m not talking Hollywood passes I’m talking basics. Weird.
 

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David Moyes is a real ***** isn’t he. Clearly their best attacking player today and he subs him again. Moyes didn’t want him bought and will keep trying to make an example of him to prove himself correct. It’s quite pathetic. My West Ham mates are getting very frustrated.
 
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Benrahma trending on Twitter is interesting. Even Hammers fans think Moyes has an agenda.
 

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Isn't Moyes just rotating him with Bowen.....??
One starts, the other comes on at 70 mins.....and then swap for the next game.....
 

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I find it interesting that when you watch him play , he gets himself in positions for very simple passes with senior team mates and they blank him. Either they don’t trust him or Moyes has instilled something in them which makes them not trust him . I mean I’m not talking Hollywood passes I’m talking basics. Weird.
I’ve noticed that too.
 

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Bottom line is Moyes has managed Benrahma very poorly and undermined his confidence when he should have been trying to build it up. One wrong pass or wide shot and hes slating him or dropping him from the next game whilst others seemingly get away with far worse.
Ollie on the other hand has got to play every game and has a manager that encourages him.
If we go up id take Benrahma back in a heartbeat... Best player ive seen in a Bees shirt bar none!
Totally agree
 

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Just possible Moyes knows what he's doing. He subs him while its level. 17 mins later and they're 3-1 up.
 

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I expect Said will get a lot more minutes next season when they’ve got to play Europa League games too. It makes sense for Moyes to be getting the broader first team squad as much experience as possible rather than just have a settled first eleven.
 

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Just possible Moyes knows what he's doing. He subs him while its level. 17 mins later and they're 3-1 up.
maybe so, it’s not always worked out that way though, and Said gets subbed every game. Moyes has done wonders this year but Said has excellent stamina and was influencing the game as much in the 70th minute as he was at the start, and was West Ham’s best player. It’s the wrong club/manager for him
 

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Don’t tell the truth to the fan boys on here.
Nothing fan boy about it. It’s called having eyes misery guts. West Ham scored from a corner for their second - of which Said, his replacement or any of the other front players were not involved. Then their third was at the death when WBA threw everyone up the pitch for an equaliser in a dead rubber for them... but don’t let that get in the way of the truth.
 

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Nothing fan boy about it. It’s called having eyes misery guts. West Ham scored from a corner for their second - of which Said, his replacement or any of the other front players were not involved. Then their third was at the death when WBA threw everyone up the pitch for an equaliser in a dead rubber for them... but don’t let that get in the way of the truth.
No one cares, it's a f***ing West Ham match!
 
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With West Ham securing 6th spot and a place in Europe anybody know if we’re likely to financially benefit from that as part of Said’s sale?
 

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With West Ham securing 6th spot and a place in Europe anybody know if we’re likely to financially benefit from that as part of Said’s sale?

Nope. A sell on and £25m was it.
 

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Oooh! Conspiracy theory incoming....

As per the article above, he has a new shirt number at WHU in memory of his late father.

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The number 22 shirt is now free at BFC due to Henrik moving to FCM.

He's coming home, lads 🤪
 

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You missed Tony Folan.
He was special, albeit never having got into the higher levels. He’s probably about 25st and wheeled on a barrow between the bookies and his local pub now, occasionally turning out for their five a side team as a goalie who just pings the ball about to win the league. Maybe we could bring him over for Worldnet 22!
 

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He was special, albeit never having got into the higher levels. He’s probably about 25st and wheeled on a barrow between the bookies and his local pub now, occasionally turning out for their five a side team as a goalie who just pings the ball about to win the league. Maybe we could bring him over for Worldnet 22!
:) I saw him score some incredible goals, he had amazing talent. Unfortunately he had some personal issues which eventually got the better of him, I’ve been told.
 

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:) I saw him score some incredible goals, he had amazing talent. Unfortunately he had some personal issues which eventually got the better of him, I’ve been told.
Yes, he was amazing but never the same after an injury I think. These days we’d have more thought and support for a player like him and developing the mental toughness to go with pure talent.
 

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:) I saw him score some incredible goals, he had amazing talent. Unfortunately he had some personal issues which eventually got the better of him, I’ve been told.
Yep I remember 2 in particular. At home v Cambridge from just over the halfway line. Incredible shot. And away v Peterborough (I think) where he dribbled around about 5 players in the penalty box (maybe some twice) to score.
 

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Looks like celtic need a decent centre back.
Lol. Puts into perspective their wailing about selling Ajer to us and the relative quality of them and our respective leagues. We were probably a better team than them when they won their tin pot quadruple treble!
 

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Exactly the kind of player we need, would love to find another like him
 

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It reveals a lot. Moyes treatment of him last season was very poor especially when considering the support, man management and care that the leadership team at BFC gave him really enabled Said to flourish and grow as an individual and team member.

I really hope he gets the support this season that this great individual deserves.
 

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The only time he spoke English in the interview was to say "Brentford is my family". Not going to lie, that got me a bit emotional.
 

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Great Player. Great person. Brilliant and full of confidence on the pitch, humble and respectful off it.
 

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Great Player. Great person. Brilliant and full of confidence on the pitch, humble and respectful off it.
Love Said, but “humble” off the pitch??!!
Do you remember some of his Twitter videos in his last year with us!!!
A particular one from his holiday was anything but ”humble”!!! 😀
 

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Love Said, but “humble” off the pitch??!!
Do you remember some of his Twitter videos in his last year with us!!!
A particular one from his holiday was anything but ”humble”!!! 😀
He was just having fun. You don’t have to live in a little rented flat above a sweet shop while earning millions to be a humble person. Bryan was I think in that video too and they’re both quietly spoken young men.
 

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He was just having fun. You don’t have to live in a little rented flat above a sweet shop while earning millions to be a humble person. Bryan was I think in that video too and they’re both quietly spoken young men.
Fair enough, but that sort of stuff doesn’t fit in with my definition of “humble”…..
Also put Bielsa/Leeds off a potential bid for him…..
 

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Fair enough, but that sort of stuff doesn’t fit in with my definition of “humble”…..
Also put Bielsa/Leeds off a potential bid for him…..
Bielsa is the aforementioned millionaire living above a sweet shop.
 
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