Saïd Benrahma

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Once again, a doff of the hat to the DOF's.

I was one of those that thought the dildo brothers had pulled one over on us with the Loan leading to eventual purchase.

Very happy to say I was wrong.
The payments are made in stages over 5years?
It doesn't make much difference they were obliged to sign him permanently at some stage either now
or at the end of loan, they have only done it now so they can bring in another loan if they wish.
 

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The payments are made in stages over 5years?
It doesn't make much difference they were obliged to sign him permanently at some stage either now
or at the end of loan, they have only done it now so they can bring in another loan if they wish.
I understand. My fear was that we wouldn't see any money after the initial loan deal. Glad to be proved wrong.
 

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No it's all in the contract. They will pay on the last day possible as each installment is due as most other companies would.
It was widely reported they were well overdue on payments for Haller, probably contributing to them selling him, and
the fact he didn't do much for them, and if my days in business proved anything if payments were due after 90 days that
just meant that was when you had to start chasing them for money.
 

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So, just out of curiosity, what is the total that the Bees are getting from this sale? I know the article says £20 million + add ons; anyone know what the final amount will be?
 
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So, just out of curiosity, what is the total that the Bees are getting from this sale? I know the article says £20 million + add ons; anyone know what the final amount will be?
That plus £5m loan fee.
 

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Was the £5m figure for a season loan or is it a fixed £5m irrespective of how long? Hopefully the latter. If for a season I guess it could be less if settled much earlier?
It was a down payment, basically.

The fee will be £25m plus add ons.
 

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I think if we could have kept him we could have stormed this league this year, hey-ho.
We might have kept him had we gone up. I think we’d be doing quite decently in the PL with him, Ollie and Ivan. There was no realistic possibility of keeping him otherwise. But we are where we are.
 

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Considering we're only half way through, maybe we could still storm it?

Well along with Norwich, at any rate.
Doubt it he would have been well pissed not getting his dream move and would have been a shadow of his former self
 

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According to Moyes, Said has “just” become a really good team player

what a douche
 

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I don’t think them making the deal permanent now will have changed the payment schedule (e.g I don’t think we have suddenly received a BACS for £20m or whatever). But glad to see it’s gone through as a loan always feels a bit like an outstanding issue even if in practical terms it was all sewn up in the summer.

I actually believe WHU is the right place for Saïd to be. I also think Moyes is getting some unnecessary stick on here. His teams don’t play bad football, but they are also very organised and play with high intensity. It’s hard work. You can have all the quality but if you don’t know your role and do your bit you won’t play (Jack Wilshere). Maintaining these high tactical and physical standards has clearly worked as WHU are flying.

For a player like Benrahma it’s a challenge. At Brentford he was effectively given a free role and at Championship level he could simply rely on his own ability to get him through matches, such was the level of his skill.

But for him to make it at the highest level we all knew he had to become more of a team player and improve on the decision making over when to release the ball and go for the simple pass over something more extravagant. The job of David Moyes and his team is to get him to buy into this and put the work in on the training pitch without neutering his creativity. It’s a fine balance to strike but he looks better and better every game. It’s beginning to pay off. He’s a better more rounded player for it. Credit to them. How many times have we seen players deselect themselves from a career at the top level through laziness or arrogance? Ravel Morrison springs to mind as a prime example.
 
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Moyes will be delighted with the way he tracked back and dispossessed Salah.
 

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Watched second half only, he rarely gets a pass. He’s not really involved. He hardly ever ran at defenders. Very sad to see.
(That second Liverpool goal, from the West Ham corner, simply wonderful!)
 

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Clinton Morrison waxed lyrical when Said flicked the ball over Robertson's (I think) head in the first half on 5 Live.

His co-commentator said it's the kind of skill which will be in the "2 Good 2 Bad" section on MOTD2 tonight.
 

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Clinton Morrison waxed lyrical when Said flicked the ball over Robertson's (I think) head in the first half on 5 Live.

His co-commentator said it's the kind of skill which will be in the "2 Good 2 Bad" section on MOTD2 tonight.
Good job Lee Johnson isn't Liverpool manager.
 

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Watched the whole game and barely noticed Saïd was on the pitch, so limited was his impact. Far too congested in the centre. Saïd needs the additional space that playing on the flanks provides. So sad 😔
 

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Clinton Morrison waxed lyrical when Said flicked the ball over Robertson's (I think) head in the first half on 5 Live.

His co-commentator said it's the kind of skill which will be in the "2 Good 2 Bad" section on MOTD2 tonight.
Was about the only time Said had done something - great bit of skill.

In the second half he kept giving the ball to a Liverpool player/ easily dispossessed.
 

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I see that Said’s transfer, being confirmed in the January transfer window, is the No.1 transfer cost in this window!!!!

Who would ever have thought that Brentford would achieve the highest price in selling a player in a transfer window.
Another first for us!👏🐝😊

Don’t know whether the price quoted is exactly right.
The link for this list of highest transfers is here -


1. Said Benrahma (Brentford to West Ham, £21m)
Tricky winger Said Benrahma was already on loan at West Ham from Brentford, but the Hammers have moved to make the deal permanent, using the money they claimed from the Haller deal to do so after selling him earlier in the transfer window. It was at the Bees where Benrahma’s potential was properly unlocked, having largely been overlooked in France. He has yet to truly explode onto the Premier League scene, but West Ham’s investment in him is a vote of confidence that he eventually will.
 

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I see that Said’s transfer, being confirmed in the January transfer window, is the No.1 transfer cost in this window!!!!
IIRC, Watkins was the highest cost English player transfer in the last window.
 

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He wasn't though. Man Utd brought some fella in from Atalanta for £37m, all though he's not joining them just yet.
 

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"What a lovely goal too. Michail Antonio wins a header, Said Benrahma pops through a fine pass for Tomas Soucek, making the third-man run inside the area.
He's wide on the right of the box and has loads to do but just thumps a first-time shot across goal and into the far corner.
Article Reactions."
 

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Should have stayed with us
He's playing regularly in a team that's pushing for the champions league. As much as we don't like to see his flair not being used. You can't say Moyes is doing a bad job and Benrahma whilst not exciting like he used to has made a step up.
 

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So, from that we can assume Moyes never watched Said play for us!!! Or, if he did, somehow he missed all the chasing back and tackling he did.....because of course, that's not part of our game at all....🙄
Absolute tool!!
Yep. Embarrassing for him to even admit that. But then it was never his idea to buy him was it, right?
 

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So, from that we can assume Moyes never watched Said play for us!!! Or, if he did, somehow he missed all the chasing back and tackling he did.....because of course, that's not part of our game at all....🙄
Absolute tool!!
To be fair he did it rarely or not very well in his first season (eg giving away the free kick for the equaliser at Elland Road) and improved a lot last season but still as an add on and not part of his core game. It is something he needed to improve and that he’s knuckled down and done so to the point that Moyes is crediting him reflects well on them both. Obviously we love Said for his magical attacking play, but we’ve also been quite happy to criticise Sergi this season for defensive weaknesses and errors when he was generally playing poorly (and favoured Fosu for his defending before he’d settled into being a consistent threat going forward) so it isn’t as if we’re blind to the need for such players to pull their weight defensively as part of the team organisation.
 
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As much as I think Said Benrahma at West Ham has been like watching Lewis Hamilton at Lego Land I also think David Moyes may have just been joking when he said "I didn't realise"...and probably was very aware of Benrahma's defensive output. There isn't a player in that starting eleven that doesn't track back for West Ham
 

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To be fair he did it rarely or not very well in his first season (eg giving away the free kick for the equaliser at Elland Road) and improved a lot last season but still as an add on and not part of his core game. It is something he needed to improve and that he’s knuckled down and done so to the point that Moyes is crediting him reflects well on them both. Obviously we love Said for his magical attacking play, but we’ve also been quite happy to criticise Sergi this season for defensive weaknesses and errors when he was generally playing poorly (and favoured Fosu for his defending before he’d settled into being a consistent threat going forward) so it isn’t as if we’re blind to the need for such players to pull their weight defensively as part of the team organisation.
Sorry, still don't get it.
Moyes is basically taking credit for turning Said into a "hard working player". And WHU fans seem to be lapping it up. Utter b***ocks.
As you yourself say, he was doing it last season for us. Maybe Moyes only watched him before then......??.......
 

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Sorry, still don't get it.
Moyes is basically taking credit for turning Said into a "hard working player". And WHU fans seem to be lapping it up. Utter b***ocks.
As you yourself say, he was doing it last season for us. Maybe Moyes only watched him before then......??.......
It’s something Said is developing. He was by no means a trojan in defence last season and did lose possession a lot. He seems to be becoming an effective defensive hard worker now rather than merely an energetic one. He was never lazy but I didn’t read Moyes as saying he was. At the top levels where Said belongs it’s not about being a trier but being a doer. It’s why despite many of us whinging after the first dozen games that the team was a bit too conservative about not getting beaten rather than swaggering to wins, we’re now obviously much stronger than we were at the same point last season. Can you see us losing 10 of our remaining 20 games? If Said had stayed I think TF would have been asking much more of him defensively too. It’ll put another £10-15m on his value more readily than anything other than banking on his attacking being genuinely Messi level.
 

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Denied the chance to score winner v Foolham...
Subbed off on 56 mins....
Obviously not working hard enough....
 

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