SIGNED Saman Ghoddos from Amiens SC (1 Viewer)

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Lots of chatter about Ghoddos coming to us, I know this was close last year until his agents were playing games. Anyone think there is truth in this?
 

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This would seem a massive turnaround if the goss on last summer is actually true. Then again, the Jansson transfer was probably a bigger surprise than if this one went ahead.

https://www.expressen.se/sport/londonklubb-nara-att-varva-ghoddos/

According to SportExpressen's information, the former Östersund player is close to a transfer to English Brentford.

The London club is now negotiating with Amiens SC to recruit Ghoddos - and there is much to suggest that the player will sign for Brentford soon.

The end of the 2020 season did not turn out quite as Brentford had imagined. The London club, which has Swedish national team defender Pontus Jansson as team captain, looked to be on the way to securing a place in the Premier League.

With two rounds left to play, the team was in second place in The Championship and had left to face Stoke and Barnsley.

Missed promotion in the end
One point in the two remaining matches would have been enough to secure a place in the Premier League next year.

But there were surprisingly two losses in both matches and a final Play-off place in the Premier League for Brentford. There, the team won the semi-final against Swansea with a total of 3-2 in matches and went to the final against Fulham at Wembley. There was a 2-1 loss and thus it was clear that the team will play in The Championship next season as well.

Wants to recruit Ghoddos to Brentford
And the work with the squad for the 2021 season is in full swing. According to SportExpressen's information, the club now wants to recruit Saman Ghoddos from French Amiens SC. Amiens left French Ligue 1 last season and will play the 2021 season in the French second division. Already in August 2019, Ghoddos was close to a transfer to Brentford, but that transfer was stopped at the last second when Fifa investigated the trouble with the player's transfer to Spanish Huesca, which never happened. Huesca was at the same time interested in Ghoddos and said he had signed a contract with the player, something that Östersund then opposed.

Becomes a teammate with Jansson
Instead, Ghoddos signed for French Amiens SC just over a year ago, but when the club fell out of the top tier, the player is now on his way away. Brentford is now up to date again and negotiations between Amiens and the London club are ongoing. If everything goes as planned, Ghoddo's teammate with midfielder Pontus Jansson will be next season. And if nothing unforeseen happens, the 26-year-old will be presented as the club's latest new acquisition shortly.
 
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More the Issue was the agents last year than perhaps the player himself .
 

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Due to their relegation, Amiens have shed a lot of players but they have bought a left-sided attacker who was previously on loan to them from Stuttgart. It seems like they are rebuilding, so he's probably a better-paid player they want to offload. Unless he has new agents, I doubt Phil Giles will answer the 'phone.
 

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Due to their relegation, Amiens have shed a lot of players but they have bought a left-sided attacker who was previously on loan to them from Stuttgart. It seems like they are rebuilding, so he's probably a better-paid player they want to offload. Unless he has new agents, I doubt Phil Giles will answer the 'phone.
If my agents had cost me £4m and a transfer to the mighty Brentford, I'd certainly think about changing them!! :D

As someone mentioned in another thread, looking at his showreel he does look a hell of a player. Can play left, centre, right, looks strong and skilful and has a hell of a shot on him.. We were v excited about him last summer...
 

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Only 1 goal in 5 appearances last year, I’d hope that, coupled with the relegation, means he’d cost a lot less than he did last year.
 

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Hope he has learned a lesson from last year and the shady going’s on with a agents. He clearly has the ability but does he have the right attitude to be a Brentford player ?
 

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looking at his showreel he does look a hell of a player.
He played 5 games last season, with a single goal, although he was suspended for 4 months. If he's got any sense, he needs to get himself sorted out and put his career back on track. Welcome to rehab West London!
 

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He played 5 games last season, with a single goal, although he was suspended for 4 months. If he's got any sense, he needs to get himself sorted out and put his career back on track. Welcome to rehab West London!
sounds right up our street! I'd imagine the suspension got him up to close to the lockdown so not a surprise he didn't play many games.. Hopefully as a result he'll be a bit cheaper...
 

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He played 5 games last season, with a single goal, although he was suspended for 4 months. If he's got any sense, he needs to get himself sorted out and put his career back on track. Welcome to rehab West London!
Opportunity knocks. The agents have royally fekked this boys career up over the last year but we obviously dodged a bullet as we would have been hit by the 4 month ban. Maybe we can see an opportunity to fix it, it has Brentford written all over it.
 

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The report has a ring of truth about it.

Good player I’m sure.

The last two years seem to have been a nightmare for him though. Hardly played, and partly because of a 4-month suspension for tanking on a written agreement to sign for another club. To get a 4-month suspension surely means his part in that was quite serious!

After the saga around his transfer last season I suspect he’s changed agents otherwise I can’t see we’d be interested in doing a deal this time around.

I hope, if he joins, we are still in the market for 1/2 other forwards because this seems to be a bit of a gamble.
 

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I read that Amiens want to recoup their outlay, reportedly €6 million. That sounds a lot for a player who apparently scored 5 goals and provided 5 assists in 35 games for Amiens, plus can he be regarded as entirely blameless in the transfer fiasco?
 

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I read that Amiens want to recoup their outlay, reportedly €6 million. That sounds a lot for a player who apparently scored 5 goals and provided 5 assists in 35 games for Amiens, plus can he be regarded as entirely blameless in the transfer fiasco?
Their relegation to L2 with a 12,000 capacity stadium they can't fill at the best of times means they need to reshape their squad and their expectations. They may want to recoup 6M€ but I imagine he's on a good contract that they'll want off the books; if I was a betting man, I'd say they'll settle for 2 with some add-ons.
 

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I read that Amiens want to recoup their outlay, reportedly €6 million. That sounds a lot for a player who apparently scored 5 goals and provided 5 assists in 35 games for Amiens, plus can he be regarded as entirely blameless in the transfer fiasco?
I’d say they’re not really in a position to negotiate...
 

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Everyone deserves a second chance and at a knocked down price? Why not. The lad should have learned now and Frank won't take no crap. It will be outlined the expectations from him from the start if he did join.
 

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Everyone deserves a second chance and at a knocked down price? Why not. The lad should have learned now and Frank won't take no crap. It will be outlined the expectations from him from the start if he did join.
It is not really frank though is it, it is the DoF.

Judging from the reports last year he passed the no dickhead test, it was his agents trying to screw our arse to the wall asking for more money at the last second thinking we would panic as the deal was agreed and all the work had been completed and it was 5 to12 on transfer deadline day. we told them to do one. it sounds to me like the vultures screwed him up and probably caused the issue leading to a ban, he was probably led to believe the pre agreement could be ignored or negotiated away.

i would say a lot of people would see him as damaged goods, his current club need him off the books and we hold all the cards.
 

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Due to their relegation, Amiens have shed a lot of players but they have bought a left-sided attacker who was previously on loan to them from Stuttgart. It seems like they are rebuilding, so he's probably a better-paid player they want to offload. Unless he has new agents, I doubt Phil Giles will answer the 'phone.
Was it not said that the player wanted to sign but it was not pushed through because the agents kept changing the agents requirements
 

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Was it not said that the player wanted to sign but it was not pushed through because the agents kept changing the agents requirements
He must have been complicit, though.
 
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Was it not said that the player wanted to sign but it was not pushed through because the agents kept changing the agents requirements
If I recall correctly Ghoddos was really keen to sign for us and seemed a good sort, his agents on the other hand are a bunch of........

I would be delighted to have him sign up tbh.
 

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It is not really frank though is it, it is the DoF.

Judging from the reports last year he passed the no dickhead test, it was his agents trying to screw our arse to the wall asking for more money at the last second thinking we would panic as the deal was agreed and all the work had been completed and it was 5 to12 on transfer deadline day. we told them to do one. it sounds to me like the vultures screwed him up and probably caused the issue leading to a ban, he was probably led to believe the pre agreement could be ignored or negotiated away.

i would say a lot of people would see him as damaged goods, his current club need him off the books and we hold all the cards.
While it was mostly down to his entourage I think he may have also failed the no dickheads test with his behaviour
 

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....he looks a natural goalscorer/finisher....he's 26.....in his prime....sign him up BFC.....all this chat about dickhead policy is tired and frankly boring.
 

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It would be fantastically Brentford to stand firm in the face of a deadline day mugging, and then snag the player on a cut price deal twelve months later... rofl
 

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....he looks a natural goalscorer/finisher....he's 26.....in his prime....sign him up BFC.....all this chat about dickhead policy is tired and frankly boring.
Now we're all mostly season ticket holders and with allocated seating for all, we need a no dickheads policy for the stands! :D
 

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I believe his current agent CLS Mundial is the same as it was in April 2019
So his agents sold him to two clubs at the same time, got him a massive fine and suspension, annoyed the hell out of his best transfer option, and he hasn't got rid of them? They must have some very compromising photographs of him.
 

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Now we're all mostly season ticket holders and with allocated seating for all, we need a no dickheads policy for the stands! :D
.....I doubt even BFCs due diligence process could cope with that demand....anyway....back to waiting for Ghoddos.
 

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If I recall correctly Ghoddos was really keen to sign for us and seemed a good sort, his agents on the other hand are a bunch of........

I would be delighted to have him sign up tbh.
Yes this is what I remember as well. One of the people who worked closely on the deal say that Ghoddos was attentive and interested, but his agents were the problem and were almost taking the piss. I don't think we'd have gotten to the 'fly him over' stage if he hadn't already passed the personality test.

If his ban has already been completed, and we can possibly get him for cheaper than last time (and not in a rush) does it not make sense to go back? The fact that we narrowly missed out on promotion with ambitions to better that makes us more attractive as well compared to last year.
 

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It does make me giggle how people have taken a comment about “no dickheads” a few years ago and have conceptualised a “no dickhead test” that signings have to pass like an MOT.
 

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The concept of no dickheads is a reality at other clubs. Man City are reputed to use spies to watch players off the pitch. I think perhaps Mario Balotelli was a catalyst for this?
 

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'Background professionalism checks' is probably a better way of phrasing it, but yes you do have to pass that test to be considered as a signing. 'No dickheads' is a phrase more recently adopted but we've been doing it for years. The best run clubs do.

Rasmus said that we were once quite close to signing a player, but after speaking to former teammates of theirs it turned out that they showed up to training hungover a lot of the time and we instantly backed out of the deal.
 

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'Background professionalism checks' is probably a better way of phrasing it, but yes you do have to pass that test to be considered as a signing. 'No dickheads' is a phrase more recently adopted but we've been doing it for years. The best run clubs do.

Rasmus said that we were once quite close to signing a player, but after speaking to former teammates of theirs it turned out that they showed up to training hungover a lot of the time and we instantly backed out of the deal.
What you’re describing is the practice of contacting references and this is not something unique to football or Brentford FC.

It’s being described as a test on here but Phil Giles has even said before, it is not like that, and not a pass/fail scenario against a rigid set of criteria.

Similar to a medical really, anyone with a non-perfect reference carries an element of risk should we sign them. It is the job of the DOFs assess that risk and decide to gamble or not on a case by case basis.

You think we weren’t warned about Neal’s hot-headedness or tendency to bend the rules?

You think Pontus had all glowing references?
 

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I played golf with a director of Real Madrid a couple of Christmases ago (they were on Xmas break) and he told me how they put private detectives on a few of their own players and prospective big money signings too. It happens.
 

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So his agents sold him to two clubs at the same time, got him a massive fine and suspension, annoyed the hell out of his best transfer option, and he hasn't got rid of them? They must have some very compromising photographs of him.
Weren't his agents his brothers, or cousins or some form of family?

Whoever they are if he signs and is an instant success expect shenanigans to occur in the subsequent transfer window or two.
 

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What you’re describing is the practice of contacting references and this is not something unique to football or Brentford FC.

It’s being described as a test on here but Phil Giles has even said before, it is not like that, and not a pass/fail scenario against a rigid set of criteria.

Similar to a medical really, anyone with a non-perfect reference carries an element of risk should we sign them. It is the job of the DOFs assess that risk and decide to gamble or not on a case by case basis.

You think we weren’t warned about Neal’s hot-headedness or tendency to bend the rules?

You think Pontus had all glowing references?
Ok when I say pass I mean that 'Yes, proceed with the deal', and 'fail' means the doubts were decided it wasn't worth the risk. I know it's not black and white criteria but they still either proceed or stop at the end of the day.

I don't think it's as common in football as it should be though. Teams like West Ham never seem to do it... They sign players like Arnautović because he threw his toys out of the pram to force a move to them, and then they get surprised that he does the same thing to them a year and a half later...like, surely that's avoidable.
 

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Their relegation to L2 with a 12,000 capacity stadium they can't fill at the best of times means they need to reshape their squad and their expectations. They may want to recoup 6M€ but I imagine he's on a good contract that they'll want off the books; if I was a betting man, I'd say they'll settle for 2 with some add-ons.
I believe that you are spot on the money here, relegation, and with it reduced income plus facing a very bleak financial future in respect of Covid. This has all the hallmarks of a 'Fire Sale', as you say recuperate some of the capital outlay, and get a serious expense off the books. My only doubt as to its validity is that Ghoddos is 27, and that is quite old for us, on the other hand he is versatile, and that does allow us to accommodate both Forss and Dervisoglu in the line up, if that is the plan. I too cannot see how he can possibly have retained his previous agents.
 

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....he looks a natural goalscorer/finisher....he's 26.....in his prime....sign him up BFC.....all this chat about dickhead policy is tired and frankly boring.
In the grand scheme of things I do not suppose that it matters that much, he is however 27 in three weeks so a little outside our usual age bracket, but likely to come cheap.
 
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