SIGNED Saman Ghoddos from Amiens SC (1 Viewer)

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Bush Tuckerman

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agreed, maybe thats what the medical was in France so we aren't paying for their flights this time round :):cool::p
To be fair the medical is probably being conducted in Paris so he doesn’t have to isolate for 4 weeks if he failed it (I.e. 2 weeks in UK followed by 2 weeks in France)
 

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To be fair the medical is probably being conducted in Paris so he doesn’t have to isolate for 4 weeks if he failed it (I.e. 2 weeks in UK followed by 2 weeks in France)
agreed, I was just being facetious....!
 

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To be fair the medical is probably being conducted in Paris so he doesn’t have to isolate for 4 weeks if he failed it (I.e. 2 weeks in UK followed by 2 weeks in France)
There is no quarantine for those entering France from the U.K. at the moment is there?
 

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To be fair the medical is probably being conducted in Paris so he doesn’t have to isolate for 4 weeks if he failed it (I.e. 2 weeks in UK followed by 2 weeks in France)
If he has the same agents, then we should have made them come over here for it so they'd have to quarantine for two weeks..they wasted our time let's waste theirs.
 

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He would still have to quarantine when entering the UK, which would mean a 2 week delay to his medical...non?
Yes, I should have been clearer that there will be no quarantine on return to France as suggested by @Bush Tuckerman.

Although having read the list of athletes exempt under the Regulations and the sporting events that are noted in Schedule 3, I’m surprised that the FA, PL and EFL were not able to have their competitions excluded from the self isolation period. If you can enter the UK for the purposes of playing european club rugby and don’t need to self isolate, surely a potential incoming football transfer could be tested on arrival (by club personnel) and could have their medical once a negative result is received.
 

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Seen a few more reports he is 'leaving today'

Likely just echoing what's already been said but we might see him with a chewed up biro soon!
 

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Has anyone heard anything about a Brentford pen taking a plane to France yesterday? That pen needs GPS now.
 

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I am surprised we went back in for him given all the previous problems, he even got a ban for signing for 2 clubs, he doesn't seem
to fit our usual no dick heads test, let's hope he is worth it.
 

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Has anyone heard anything about a Brentford pen taking a plane to France yesterday? That pen needs GPS now.
We have come a long way from providing Pontus a chewed up Bic pen for his signature photo shoot
 

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I am surprised we went back in for him given all the previous problems, he even got a ban for signing for 2 clubs, he doesn't seem
to fit our usual no dick heads test, let's hope he is worth it.
I quite enjoyed reading about playing for Sweden and then Iran and declaring for both but deciding on Iran
 

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I don’t think he was the problem last time around...
Looks like his agent agreed a deal in Spain, someone in France came in with more £££, his agents backed out of it. He got a £4m fine and a 4month ban.

doesnt really seem like his fault, he trusted his agents/solicitor that he could of got away with it.

misguided i think.
 

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Looks like his agent agreed a deal in Spain, someone in France came in with more £££, his agents backed out of it. He got a £4m fine and a 4month ban.

doesnt really seem like his fault, he trusted his agents/solicitor that he could of got away with it.

misguided i think.
I think the selling club Ostersunds were also culpable too - Ghoddos was just caught in the middle
 

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I think the selling club Ostersunds were also culpable too - Ghoddos was just caught in the middle
He did sign two contracts with two different chewed Biros though.
 

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How he didn't dump those advisors after that though is a pretty questionable...footballers trust their agents way too much though to the point of complete reliance.

If he signed two contracts it's because his agents likely said it would be fine and not to worry about it. He's letting himself get pulled around in the wrong direction way too much...
 

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How he didn't dump those advisors after that though is a pretty questionable...
Do you know that he didn't? Maybe he did. Not seen any info on it myself, but it's easy enough to switch...
 

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Do you know that he didn't? Maybe he did. Not seen any info on it myself, but it's easy enough to switch...
I remember it was quoted on here that he was still with the same agency when the rumours resurfaced...

In fact this is where it was mentioned:
I believe his current agent CLS Mundial is the same as it was in April 2019
 

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If that’s true, perhaps we have a get out clause in the event that our no doubt stringent due diligence still fails to pick up any buried skeletons in his cupboard!
 

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If it's loan to permanent aren't we leaving ourselves open to them recalling him at any time? Feels like a bad omen if he starts firing them in and they decide to bring him back..
 

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Can't see what benefit this is to us unless it's our option to buy.
 

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Makes sense given his lack of football and fitess problems over the last year. If we have a guaranteed right to buy at the end of the deal at a set price but can also potentially pull out then it's perfect. Can't see the point if there is an absolute obligation to buy as in the Woods deal so would be surprised if it was that.
 

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What's the difference between a loan>permanent vs just permanent?

I assume there aren't many loose ends left to agree on the permanent element of a loan>permanent? Or is there?
 

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If it's loan to permanent aren't we leaving ourselves open to them recalling him at any time? Feels like a bad omen if he starts firing them in and they decide to bring him back..
Most deals of this kind don't include a recall option. This is an uncharacteristically risky move for us so it makes sense if we're covering ourselves. He looks like he could be a cracking player but spending a big portion of your budget on someone of his age, with consequently less resale value than usual wih us, added to his crazy last year in football could have significant consequences if it went wrong. I'm not including the agent shenanigans because if the DOFs are comfortable with that then so am I.
 

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Apparently Villa have insisted on a 'menage a trois' clause in this deal, thus saving themselves approx £20m in the process.....
 

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Apparently Villa have insisted on a 'menage a trois' clause in this deal, thus saving themselves approx £20m in the process.....
I think Dean Smith is getting to the end of his "Brentford players wot I like" page, only Rico left.
 

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It all depends on the terms but I can see a loan to buy being beneficial to both teams in some circumstances.
Let’s say we were willing to pay £5m for him last year but now only £2m because of his lack of playing time. Amiens think he’s worth more and could hold out, get value from him helping them up, maybe get an offer in January. We think with our development he could be a £15m player in the summer. So we loan with a fee near what we’d have paid this year with an option to buy at what we’d have paid last year. If he’s a dud, we don’t have to bear his wages past this season, if he’s good we get a £10m discount on the value he has next summer. Amiens could secure their position a bit by making the option to buy a commitment to buy if he hits a number of KPIs (appearances/goals/assists- I’d put goals and assists in just because it is too easy to just drop a player before they make enough appearances but we’re unlikely to nickel and dime over one who has had a dozen goal contributions).
 

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It all depends on the terms but I can see a loan to buy being beneficial to both teams in some circumstances.
Let’s say we were willing to pay £5m for him last year but now only £2m because of his lack of playing time. Amiens think he’s worth more and could hold out, get value from him helping them up, maybe get an offer in January. We think with our development he could be a £15m player in the summer. So we loan with a fee near what we’d have paid this year with an option to buy at what we’d have paid last year. If he’s a dud, we don’t have to bear his wages past this season, if he’s good we get a £10m discount on the value he has next summer. Amiens could secure their position a bit by making the option to buy a commitment to buy if he hits a number of KPIs (appearances/goals/assists- I’d put goals and assists in just because it is too easy to just drop a player before they make enough appearances but we’re unlikely to nickel and dime over one who has had a dozen goal contributions).
So in summary, the success of the loan period largely determines the permanent fee?
 

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Feels weird.

Loan to buy is usually if the window has closed otherwise it is a cake and eat it. A try before you buy can only be good for the selling club if they are desperate to get him out and nobody wants him, I think he is too good for that and can't wait.

Whatever weirdness is going on it has Brentford written all over it.
 
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