Saman Ghoddos - (Loan to June 2021 + 2yr Permanent Option) (4 Viewers)

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Agree with most of that Mick, but Ghoddos is a fair bit older than Benrahma. No doubt we'll nurture and bed in, but I think he's been brought in to make an impact much more quickly than some previous signings.
Can’t disagree Grutter.
But as our PersianTactician refers to above, don’t expect fireworks too soon.
These are wise words. We have chased Saman for 15 months, it’s a two year project, plenty of time for him to breathe and play.
Cameos for the foreseeable especially at the likes of Wednesday and Stoke.
Full power on at the home games, 30 mins at the end of games shortly then a start for 60 minutes the end of November.
 

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Can we talk about THAT tackle though?! :eek:

It must have looked worse than it was, cos I was worried we were gonna see a red card, but they just took a quick free kick and cracked on...
 

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Can we talk about THAT tackle though?! :eek:

It must have looked worse than it was, cos I was worried we were gonna see a red card, but they just took a quick free kick and cracked on...
yes! That seems to have got glossed over.. Looked like a straight red from the ifollow stream!
 

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Can we talk about THAT tackle though?! :eek:

It must have looked worse than it was, cos I was worried we were gonna see a red card, but they just took a quick free kick and cracked on...
Dont remember this at all. On him or by him?
 

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Lucky they were chasing the game and I suppose ref was influenced by the fact they weren't complaining too much, did look bad at first/live viewing.
 

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not sure if this will work, but here goes...
ghoddos tackle.gif
 

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He'd already got his leg round their player so not sure why he performed a wrestling move to accompany it?
 

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Looked good to me. Would have ruined my game if that was not allowed...........
 

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He'd already got his leg round their player so not sure why he performed a wrestling move to accompany it?
It's actually not as bad as I remember - like you say, the right leg probably nipped in and did a good job. I think his momentum and an unexpected bump from the Cov player causes him to lose his left leg, so it looks then worse than it was. But look at the ref steaming in! If they hadn't gone for it with a quick free kick, there'd have been a question... And if it was Forest etc running round the ref, no doubt what the decision would be...
 

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It's actually not as bad as I remember - like you say, the right leg probably nipped in and did a good job. I think his momentum and an unexpected bump from the Cov player causes him to lose his left leg, so it looks then worse than it was. But look at the ref steaming in! If they hadn't gone for it with a quick free kick, there'd have been a question... And if it was Forest etc running round the ref, no doubt what the decision would be...
can we get it out of our heads that referees base their decisions on the level of opposition harassment? That maybe happens occasionally...no more than that
 

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can we get it out of our heads that referees base their decisions on the level of opposition harassment? That maybe happens occasionally...no more than that
Can't see you getting many 'likes' for your post, but I agree with you. But as an ex-ref, I suppose I would, wouldn't I.

The only time I'd admit to having felt pressured to (over-)react was with incidents right in front of the benches. The Henry tackle at Swansea was a good example of that.
 

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we've all seen it happen a few times 🤷‍♂️
 

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we've all seen it happen a few times 🤷‍♂️
No we haven’t. We have seen an incident, followed by unsportsmanlike remonstrations from players and or benches, followed by the referee adopting a course of action. We have no idea if the referee responded to the remonstrations or the original incident. I have referreed at nationwide conference and premier / national league reserve standard and can tell you that the officials I worked with (many of whom are or were on the EFL or EPL made their judgements based upon what they saw in the incident. The only time I can recall being swayed from my original split second judgement was where a player was evidently seriously injured (as opposed to rolling around) and the reaction of both sets of players including body language from the offender indicated to me that I had wholly misread a situation
 

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No we haven’t. We have seen an incident, followed by unsportsmanlike remonstrations from players and or benches, followed by the referee adopting a course of action. We have no idea if the referee responded to the remonstrations or the original incident. I have referreed at nationwide conference and premier / national league reserve standard and can tell you that the officials I worked with (many of whom are or were on the EFL or EPL made their judgements based upon what they saw in the incident. The only time I can recall being swayed from my original split second judgement was where a player was evidently seriously injured (as opposed to rolling around) and the reaction of both sets of players including body language from the offender indicated to me that I had wholly misread a situation
Taking your point I have said Reed was lucky in the Play Off Final , If Norgaard rolled around cry in agony Reed would have got a red
 

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No we haven’t. We have seen an incident, followed by unsportsmanlike remonstrations from players and or benches, followed by the referee adopting a course of action. We have no idea if the referee responded to the remonstrations or the original incident. I have referreed at nationwide conference and premier / national league reserve standard and can tell you that the officials I worked with (many of whom are or were on the EFL or EPL made their judgements based upon what they saw in the incident. The only time I can recall being swayed from my original split second judgement was where a player was evidently seriously injured (as opposed to rolling around) and the reaction of both sets of players including body language from the offender indicated to me that I had wholly misread a situation
Not doubting anyone's integrity. But it's undeniable. If it didn't "work", get you the occasional marginal gain or two, people wouldn't bother with it. There really are countless examples.
 

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Not doubting anyone's integrity. But it's undeniable. If it didn't "work", get you the occasional marginal gain or two, people wouldn't bother with it. There really are countless examples.
I think you have answered your own question. From countless examples, an occasional marginal gain or two
 

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f me , a thousand posts about his tackle .................... Can we keep the thread to about his abilities etc maybe ?
 

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Looked very useful today, got better as the minutes passed. Looks wise and uses the ball really well, sensible passes with attacking focus too. Think it will make a difference having experience at that end of the pitch and he’ll get better as he plays more! Great addition!
 

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Yep looked more convincing the more the game went on. Still has some adapting to do I feel but he has all the qualities we need in the team, did some very good moves at points.
 

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He was another to shine tonight. So lovely football and range of passing. Another one who will get better when he’s in the Brentford zone! 😁😎
 

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Decent first start - different to Said but that is not a surprise. A few lovely passes including an absolute beauty for Jensen in first half that he should have buried
 

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Clever player who will also bring goals once we get him the ball in and around the box
 

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Positives: Some intelligent movement, excellent passes, good work rate and not afraid to ‘get stuck in’

Areas for development: A little bit ponderous on the ball at times and either got caught in possession or slowed our attack down to the point the options were gone.

Overall, clearly has ability and desire and all of the areas of improvement will likely come as his fitness improves and he starts to get used to his teammates and how we play so all signs point to another great acquisition.
 

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I like very much! Very different player to Said but very intelligent, found a lot of really good space, moved the ball on well and then picked out some outrageous passes. Still obviously a way off full fitness but he could be one to unlock those stubborn defences.. Want to see him shoot though!!!
 

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A couple of really exquisite passes. Not a traditional winger but replacing Said it was always more important to get someone with a bit of creativity on the ball and he clearly has that. He will get better too.
 

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I was impressed, looks like a player,definitely a 10 rather than a natural winger.
 

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I was impressed, looks like a player,definitely a 10 rather than a natural winger.
Not a big problem though, cos I think 10's can definitely play that sort of inverted winger role, too.

Definitely looking forward to seeing him get up to speed. Remember how Benrahma (and so many others recently) looked in their first few games...
 

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Some nice touches and got stuck in again a couple of times to win ball back. Encouraging signs
 

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First taste of English football this season and still getting to grips with how we play, But looks an intelligent player with some nice vision/touches tonight, not afraid to get stuck in as well, impressed with him on that showing, when fully up to our fitness level and style he will be a fantastic asset.
 

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He might not be nutmegging mermaids but he looks very much a team player. Sky commentators said it was hard to believe he, Ivan and Bryan hadn’t been playing together for ages and it was a credit to us that their understanding meant we didn’t look like missing Said and Ollie. Imagine what they could be like after another dozen games together.

I thought Bryan looked much more comfortable too so there’s obviously been a lot of work done integrating everyone.
 

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Not a big problem though, cos I think 10's can definitely play that sort of inverted winger role, too.

Definitely looking forward to seeing him get up to speed. Remember how Benrahma (and so many others recently) looked in their first few games...
And Rico is effectively a winger when going forward so if Ghoddos helps us overload in midfield, act as a number ten provider for Toney as well as adding to us defensively we can only be stronger overall.
 

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Lot more to come from this fella as he gets up to speed with the Championship and our style. Like Toney he offers a physical presence as well as an attacking threat.
 

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He seems to have that combination of being languid enough to seem to have a lot of time and the mobility to appear to be everywhere. There were some sequences where he, Ivan and Bryan advanced up the pitch passing between themselves in a 5-10m triangle and SW had no idea what to do.
 

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Just before half time, a one-two with Toney and a perfectly timed through ball to Dalsgaard - sublime.

Hope he's got goals in his locker too just in case IT has a quiet day :sorted:
 

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Ghoddos is starting to look a bit more interesting. Was very involved in our best spell after the goal with him, Marcondes, Mbuemo and Toney all pulling the Norwich defence all over the shop. Nice pass into Bryan for the goal and seems to be able to pick out the surprise pass, just need to get the rest of the attacking players on the same wavelength. I feel when he’s up to speed his intelligence, movement off the ball and eye for a pass will stand us in good stead. Was surprised he didn’t have a shot when free on the edge of the box given his showreel.. want to see him having a pop a bit more..
 

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