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So you are basically saying Brentford invested in a league 2 player, I'm absolutely sure he would get a starting position in Spain/Portugal/France/Denmark(which TF ranks so highly) Netherlands, Belgium, and surely other countries. I'm sure if the staff of Brentford would rate him 2nd class they wouldn't have gone for him. Absolutely, I would say either play him in his preferred role as a 10 or in a more advanced position or don't play him at all.


Compare the minutes of the players in their current position and their output. Stats are one of the most important tools football clubs look at when choosing a player. I don't think you understand how important it is for a player to stay match fit in the year before the world cup, no matter how much they love the club if you ask any player who's been 100% loyal to a club he plays... they would all react the same. what other opinion you have of him, may it be him being a spoilt brat or whatever is yours and I don't care really.


Sorry, but can you remind me how that corner came to happen? It was a dead ball situation. and after the first 15, it was all Man city, we were parking the bus for about 75 minutes. Not saying the tactics were wrong, but nothing really happened after the first 15 minutes in which Onyeka had a great opportunity and a great through pass on to Wissa which created the corner for Jensen's cross.


I've also criticized some of his performances and said he should be benched before, stop nitpicking.



I have commented plenty of times that if we as fans expect him to be the next Benrahma, were in for disappointment because his playing style isn't like him, he has flair but in another way, When he played under Graham Potter he stayed more up top and play from there and do his magic.
We've spent a ton of money on a bang average player who couldnt get in the Brentford Championship side.

Not for me, Marcondes contributed more then Ghoddos could ever dream of and he was shown the door. Ghoddos wont be far behind.
 

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He seems happy and at times unhappy and I totally understand why. even out of position he tries so no one can say he isn't despite not being in his natural position, and he's somewhat doing not too bad either.

I definitely would, if you wouldn't support your countrymen then that's questionable... but that doesn't mean I haven't criticized him in the past, I have when he played bad, and I supported him when he played good. So in the end, I feel it's absolutely biased, if you play a great game and your benched the next, to someone who played sh*t the previous match and still gets the nod to start... but somewhat I can understand, almost half of the bench is Danish and its the year leading up to the World cup they have to play.

What a load of ****.
 
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We've spent a ton of money on a bang average player who couldnt get in the Brentford Championship side.

Not for me, Marcondes contributed more then Ghoddos could ever dream of and he was shown the door. Ghoddos wont be far behind.
Well, that bang-average player has better stats in the limited amount of minutes he's gotten, what makes the others with considerably more minutes and less impressive stats? less than average? this discussion is pointless.
 

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Well, that bang-average player has better stats in the limited amount of minutes he's gotten, what makes the others with considerably more minutes and less impressive stats? less than average? this discussion is pointless.

Keep hanging onto them :LOL: 🥱
 

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I get that you come on here to promote Ghoddos at all costs. But don’t talk nonsense. Jensen, Onyeka and Baptiste were all fine yesterday. And our best chance of the game came from a Jensen corner.





I would respectfully suggest that you have NEVER looked at the Jensen thread.

:ROFLMAO:
 

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Well, that bang-average player has better stats in the limited amount of minutes he's gotten, what makes the others with considerably more minutes and less impressive stats? less than average? this discussion is pointless.
I don't think that Ghoddos is bang average, but he doesn't fit into the style of play that we currently need at Brentford.
Perhaps, last season, where we dominated possession, he'd have been more suited to our style of play.
For me, he's an attacking midfielder who can support a lone striker, so he'd suit 4-3-3. But we don't play that, and therefore I don't see how he fits in.
He's obviously a good player going forward, but he doesn't contribute much more than that. So he's a bit of luxury. I'd argue similarly that Jensen is a bit of a luxury, but for the most part, Jensen does win the ball back quite regularly, so he seems to be ahead of Ghoddos.
 

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It seems to me , whilst he is a reasonable player , that he does want to do want is asked of him by the manager. He wants to do what he feels he should do.
Many of our players have accepted playing out of what position they felt was their best but he is not happy with that. Sometimes be played out of position works really well ie Ollie Watkins but it we never work if the player is not doing what is asked of him
 

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I always feel that when those on here denounce a player vigorously, they often have to eat their words, sometimes more quickly.

The management team at Brentford saw something in Ghoddos, and provided any player comes on to the pitch with energy and puts his best ‘sweat’ in, whether for 9 or 90 minutes, then I am not going to knock him down.

Because whilst anyone may not deliver all of what we hoped for in a match, and if they were then dropped never to reappear, then very quickly we’d have no players at all lined up for the kick-off!

For Ghoddos read Marcondes, read Thompson, and any others who’ve been slammed on here during 2021.

Marcondes, disliked by many, was actually the key player who got us into the PL in the 2 matches that mattered - the cross for Forss to score v Bournemouth in the play offs, and the crucial 2nd goal at Wembley.

3 days before last night, Thompson was assigned to never being fit to wear a Bees shirt again by many on here.Last night against the best and most expensive team in the PL, he turned in a courageous and full on performance standing toe to toe with the best players.

Likewise with Ghoddos. I think his moment is still to arrive, when he shows us what he is really capable of.
But he does create an extra energy, and when he took it out of defence and delivered a great pass forward, then you can see there is real potential, which just needs unlocking more.
If he is picked to play, I’ll trust that TF & co know what they expect of him.

Too many others injured right now, to start shooting ourselves in the foot by over criticising the few we have available to run onto the pitch!
 
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I don't think that Ghoddos is bang average, but he doesn't fit into the style of play that we currently need at Brentford.
Perhaps, last season, where we dominated possession, he'd have been more suited to our style of play.
For me, he's an attacking midfielder who can support a lone striker, so he'd suit 4-3-3. But we don't play that, and therefore I don't see how he fits in.
He's obviously a good player going forward, but he doesn't contribute much more than that. So he's a bit of luxury. I'd argue similarly that Jensen is a bit of a luxury, but for the most part, Jensen does win the ball back quite regularly, so he seems to be ahead of Ghoddos.

He just doesn't fit into this system and i agree with you on that. I don't expect him to get any meaningful minutes in this system. and if he does get minutes, he will not be utilized to the fullest, precisely like we aren't utilizing Canos his abilities.
 

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He really fancied it today. Showed a bit of quality on the ball and hunted Villa down. Good for you Saman
 
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Think he was getting more comfortable with every minute he was on the pitch, had some nervous moments, one with the clearance which ended up in the middle of our own half, corner, and I think he looked a little nervous and not sure how he has to position himself in order to defend the left side, but it got better and better.

Looked very positive going forward, and got to say i loved the attitude on that pass which he had to stretch a little with his left leg and immediate panna with his right foot to Janelt which went on ending with a goal for us!

Overall great performance, although a little nervous from the start. only gonna get better from here on out. Hope all the other players who went off aren't injured as we need every player this season.

Oh and that Trezequet guy in the end,. I think that guy deserved a yellow for trying to trick the referee for a penalty, he would of won the oscars, so he could have won the yellow card as well. Also great to see Ghoddos blocking Aston Villa's final attempt by blocking their player and ending the match.
 

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He changed the game when he came on. Ge was brave, played to feet and made sure that we kept momentum up. Can’t defend but he was very brave on the ball. 👏
 

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I think whenever Sammy’s come on he’s really given it a good go and played very well. he gives me the heebeejeebees if I see him having to defend deep but apart from that I love the fella. He plays with a great spirit and he is a good passer and striker of the ball.

and we talk about impact. I thought he was almost MoTm in the last game against Villa, I think he was our motm v Barnsley and I think when he’s allowed to play between the lines he can make some magic happen. Whatever happens with him in the future I love his cameos!!!
 

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The guy has improved a lot; his goal against Burnley wasn’t ‘bang average’, and charge into the box against Watford resulting in a penalty was a key moment in the season. Last couple of games, I find myself hoping he will come on, because he can make a difference and is capable of being a game-changer. Keep up the great work Saman; I’m sure the doubters will be only too happy to eat their hats.
 

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In danger of sounding like Persian Tactician, but...

1) He deserves to start a run of games in midfield.
2) It's time for the coaches to focus on the good aspects of his game and utilise these - not put a sqare peg in a round hole.

He should get a few games with Onyeka and Jensen out now.
 

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I think whenever Sammy’s come on he’s really given it a good go and played very well. he gives me the heebeejeebees if I see him having to defend deep but apart from that I love the fella. He plays with a great spirit and he is a good passer and striker of the ball.

and we talk about impact. I thought he was almost MoTm in the last game against Villa, I think he was our motm v Barnsley and I think when he’s allowed to play between the lines he can make some magic happen. Whatever happens with him in the future I love his cameos!!!
Sorry Burnley!
 
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In danger of sounding like Persian Tactician, but...

1) He deserves to start a run of games in midfield.
2) It's time for the coaches to focus on the good aspects of his game and utilise these - not put a sqare peg in a round hole.

He should get a few games with Onyeka and Jensen out now.
His weaknesses are the defensive part of his game, although... his efforts in the defensive part of the game was very good, miss-timed some, and had smart defending in the box and at the last minute of the game If they could utilize him in the attacking phase in a more favorable position where he can use his magic we will see much higher goal-scoring threats from our team.

The free-kick position reminded me of his superb goal in League 1 with Amiens. wish he would unleash that side of his game.
 

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His weaknesses are the defensive part of his game, although... his efforts in the defensive part of the game was very good, miss-timed some, and had smart defending in the box and at the last minute of the game If they could utilize him in the attacking phase in a more favorable position where he can use his magic we will see much higher goal-scoring threats from our team.

The free-kick position reminded me of his superb goal in League 1 with Amiens. wish he would unleash that side of his game.
I really like Saman and hope he get a start soon but can you stop sucking him off because I'm sure it will take away his match day strength.
Only joking make but easy up on the love in. We support our club not a player.
 

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As he did against Watford made a real impact coming on today. A good player to have in the squad
 

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Again - we looked more solid and kept better possession when he came on. Good to have him in the squad.
 

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Made an impact. Ahead of Jensen as a choice and also Sergi IMO
Canos was probably our best player in a dire first half & before the injury. Cash didn't get a look in & Sergi got forward well. Ghoddos was excellent but start ahead of Canos as LWB nope sorry don't agree.
 

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Our very own utility player - can play in a variety of positions and always pretty dependable when called upon. He definitely had another positive impact on the game when he came on.
 

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I really like Saman. He created more opportunities in his 30 minutes than anyone else. I think there is a proper footballer in there and I would really like him to be given more opportunities.
I thought he did very well when he came on today, and I’ve got quite a bit more faith in him now than when he first started to get some minutes. He’s a very useful tactical sub.
 

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Canos was probably our best player in a dire first half & before the injury. Cash didn't get a look in & Sergi got forward well. Ghoddos was excellent but start ahead of Canos as LWB nope sorry don't agree.
IMO Ghoddos has more skill on the ball and in use of the ball than Canos but possibly is as bad as Sergi at defending. Problem is neither are wing backs but do a manfull job when called upon. My personal choice would be to put him ahead of Canos but it's all about opinions. Ghoddos did a lot of very clever stuff today.
 

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In danger of sounding like Persian Tactician, but...

1) He deserves to start a run of games in midfield.
2) It's time for the coaches to focus on the good aspects of his game and utilise these - not put a sqare peg in a round hole.

He should get a few games with Onyeka and Jensen out now.
The issue is I think that when he's started he's struggled. I don't think that's necessarily his fault, a lot of it is down to our set up at the moment which makes the 3rd midfielder's job an almost impossible one. No-one's really nailed it, Baptiste has probably come closest but he drifts out of games a lot and struggles a bit with the defensive side.
 

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Class when he came on. All 3 midfielders (him, Baptiste and Janelt) changed the game and should all be ahead of Jensen.
I thought he came on as a wing back?
 

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IMO Ghoddos has more skill on the ball and in use of the ball than Canos but possibly is as bad as Sergi at defending. Problem is neither are wing backs but do a manfull job when called upon. My personal choice would be to put him ahead of Canos but it's all about opinions. Ghoddos did a lot of very clever stuff today.
Yes it is about opinion and I do disagree with you on this occasion. TF has stated his preference for playing at least one recognised winger/attacker in one of the the Wing Back positions and Canos has manfully fulfilled that role and a cursory glance at his stats this season compare well with most LWB in the division outside the likes of Robertson, Chilwell et al and generally defended pretty well other than a handful of games. Ghoddos has done well in a couple of cameo appearances but I doubt will ever start a Premier League Game in a Wing back berth. Among his many qualities mobility and pace are not chief amongst his virtues, Canos has both and has contributed with assists and goals.
The argument about if Ghoddos has done enough to merit a start in a Midfield berth is perhaps a different matter. Where we can agree is that Ghoddos did well today.
 

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Justified his time on the pitch with some good skills, and it was him who started the move by retaining control which led to our winner!

Well done!
 

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great impact linked up well with Vitaly, and was up for the fight - might be an answer at wing back
 
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