Scott Flinders, Hartlepool Keeper - Right or Wrong?

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Three young 'fans' on the pitch in the last few minutes, shouldn't of been there. Though the reaction of the goalkeeper seemed completely ott. These were fans of around 10-12 years old and he completely man handles them, chucking them to the ground

We will probably get a fine from the reaction of ER pelting him with bottles, but did he insight this? Think he should of left the kids alone and let the stewards do what they are paid for.
 
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I heard some fans behind the goal started to throw bottles at him, is that right or wrong?
 

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He was correct to catch the jerks and throw them off the pitch.

The strange reaction was from the kids in ER who boo'd him for his actions.

Disgraceful reaction was from those who threw bottles onto the pitch.

Why do a minority always spoil things for the majority?

At least the majority in this case rightly clapped and cheered Scott Flinders for his actions.
 
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I heard some fans behind the goal started to throw bottles at him, is that right or wrong?
Of course not - blind idiots all of them.

I'm talking about Flinders reaction to the kids, let the stewards deal with it.
 

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He went waaay over the top. But the look of that kids face when he got dropped to the ground-priceless.

My god ER were angry- the amount of bottles thrown!!!

Was expecting there to be a full sized pitch invasion after the incident but there wasnt.
 

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The problem was that the stewards weren't doing anything to remove them, although for me grabbing them and handing them over to a steward would have been better than picking them up and throwing them onto the ground. The incident could have repercussions for him and Brentford. The solution is for people to keep off the pitch in the first place. If you go on don't moan if you get "removed" and banned.:nono::nono::nono:
 

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Keeper was right, he simply picked them up and then threw them to the ground, little feckers shouldn't have been there. I thought Flinders' reactions was funny and in no way ott.
 

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agree with what he did 100% its not like the oiks wern't warned to stay off the pitch
 

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They shouldn't have been on the pitch, the club has made this clear all week, so f*** em!! Well done Flinders!
 

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Way out of line and all the people round me thought so too. They weren't threatening him in any way at all and the ref would have just added time on. They were way too young to be treated like that and a few kids near me were upset by what he did including mine.

It doesn't excuse what the kids did though or the stewards who were busy preparing themselves for an invasion of overweight Paddock regulars and got caught out by the little scroats
 

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Fully agree - he only did what the stewards should have done, and those idiots who threw the bottles should get a ban.
 

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did the right thing by getting them off shouldn't been on there. disapointed with the brentford fans who chucked bottles.DEFINITELY going to get a huge fine.

THANKS LADS
 

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He shouldn't have thrown them at the end - that was over the top. Up to that point though, fine.
 

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The kids were with adults who incited them into running on. The stewards then did nothing to remove them. Flinders grabbed two of the kids and threw them off the pitch using in my view totally excessive force. Then some 'fans' threw bottles at him followed by abuse for the remainder of the game. The only one to behave with any credit was Charlie who, upon seeing what was happening ran the length of the pitch gesturing for everyone to calm down. A nasty, ugly incident which rather spoiled the afternoon for me. Enquiries all round?
 

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The kids were with adults who incited them into running on. The stewards then did nothing to remove them. Flinders grabbed two of the kids and threw them off the pitch using in my view totally excessive force. Then some 'fans' threw bottles at him followed by abuse for the remainder of the game. The only one to behave with any credit was Charlie who, upon seeing what was happening ran the length of the pitch gesturing for everyone to calm down. A nasty, ugly incident which rather spoiled the afternoon for me. Enquiries all round?
Really? Outrageous if true.
 

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Keeper wasn't really ott, kids were taking the p***.
Idiots who threw the bottles were out of order....gonna cost the club!
 

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Way out of line and all the people round me thought so too. They weren't threatening him in any way at all and the ref would have just added time on. They were way too young to be treated like that and a few kids near me were upset by what he did including mine.

It doesn't excuse what the kids did though or the stewards who were busy preparing themselves for an invasion of overweight Paddock regulars and got caught out by the little scroats
Well they won't be in a rush to do it again then will they. Thoroughly deserved as far as I'm concerned and only made necessary by the complete inaction of the gawping stewards who simply stood and watched.
 

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Whoever said the kids were "10-12" is surely wrong, they looked at least 14 and knew full well what they were doing and how anyone watching them could feel 'upset' simply boggles the mind! I'm just upset some people think the keeper was wrong!!
 

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The people to blame are the stewards, they aren't good enough. If we had good enough stewards the whole incident could have been avoided, the kids should have been stopped from going on and when they did get on, they should have been removed.

The problem is we have too many stweards who are employed to show people to their seats that sorta thing, not enough who are gonna get involved when trouble kicks off. Why did all the stewards stand still when they came on, its not like they were big people who might be violent, just a couple of kids.

For the record, I was cheering Flinders on.
 

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Whoever said the kids were "10-12" is surely wrong, they looked at least 14 and knew full well what they were doing and how anyone watching them could feel 'upset' simply boggles the mind! I'm just upset some people think the keeper was wrong!!
:imwith:

Definatley 10-12. The one in the white coat usually stands at the front of ER
 

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Definatley 10-12. The one in the white coat usually stands at the front of ER
Well with any luck he'll be absent from GP for a decent portion of next season, along with his little mate, oh and the sh*ts who threw the bottles. Unless we start to get tough with this little section of thoroughly unpleasant chavs they'll just get worse I'm afraid.
 

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The keeper isn't to blame, the stewards aren't to blame. The idiot kids are to blame. No sympathy for them at all. Spectators who threw bottles are idiots.
 

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fully behind the keeper, no need for those kids to be on the pitch especially after the warnings we might not get a lap of honour. i've posted elsewhere about the bottle throwers, cowards each and every one of them. would of helped if the stewards had actually done something to stop or remove the ***** in the first place though. well done to all the bees clapping out the sound of the mugs booing the keeper as well, made me proud that we dont tolerate this at griffin park :sorted: cant see us not getting a fine due to the amount of bottles on the pitch, and our recent 'form' for doing it. well happy my £300 for the season ticket will be wasted (so to speak) paying the fa a fine.
 

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Flinders was right. If you break the rules expect to get punished. Simple as that. If those kids hadn't run on the pitch, they wouldn't have been thrown off. Three selfish little divs who (potentially) spoil it for everyone else.

Can't see why there's even a debate on this one. If you can't do the time, don't commit the crime. Typical of society today really, some people think they can do what they want and then moan about the punishment. Not enough discipline in today's society - people should be made to understand that if you do something wrong - face the consequences.
 

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Whether wrong or not, Brentford willl get a fine which every bottle thrower to own up and pay up! After all its there actions which have resulted in the fine.
But Flinders was a little to heavy on the kids, no problem grabbing them and walking them off but he threw them on the ground, so over the top.
 

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Whether wrong or not, Brentford willl get a fine which every bottle thrower to own up and pay up! After all its there actions which have resulted in the fine.
But Flinders was a little to heavy on the kids, no problem grabbing them and walking them off but he threw them on the ground, so over the top.
i thought he was looking to hand them over to the stewards but the planks stood there watching not knowing what to do, so short of throwing them in the stands wasnt much he could do!! the bottle throwers havent got the guts between them to come forward, brave chaps standing in a crowd knowing they will get away with it.
 

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He was correct to catch the jerks and throw them off the pitch.

The strange reaction was from the kids in ER who boo'd him for his actions.

Disgraceful reaction was from those who threw bottles onto the pitch.

Why do a minority always spoil things for the majority?

At least the majority in this case rightly clapped and cheered Scott Flinders for his actions.
:imwith: The idiots that ran on got what was coming. Why it took a goalkeeper to do it rather than our stewards is damning on Brentford.
 

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Can someone post on here in ten years time and tell us what the invaders are up to. I'm sure the stories will all be ones of major success.
 

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Totally support Flinders; the stewards were doing nothing, the OB were watching the paddock and those idiot children would have stayed there like performing monkeys. If adults were encouraging them, then that is so much the worse. The bottle throwing was completely, mind-numbingly stupid - there were some from the Bill Axbey, too - how does that help Brentford FC? I hope that the video/TV cameras were on them but I guess it's the Ealing Road chavs, again.

Can we get stocks installed on the forecourt?
 

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They shouldn't have been on the pitch, the club has made this clear all week, so f*** em!! Well done Flinders!
:imwith:

I would love big, burly Flinders to tossle me to the ground. :love2:

The kids certainly got a treat, wish I would of run on now:love2::bling:
 

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Can someone post on here in ten years time and tell us what the invaders are up to. I'm sure the stories will all be ones of major success.
we'll probably have a similar thread complaining about similar behaviour :sorted: :wave:
 

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The people to blame are the stewards, they aren't good enough. If we had good enough stewards the whole incident could have been avoided, the kids should have been stopped from going on and when they did get on, they should have been removed.

The problem is we have too many stweards who are employed to show people to their seats that sorta thing, not enough who are gonna get involved when trouble kicks off. Why did all the stewards stand still when they came on, its not like they were big people who might be violent, just a couple of kids.

For the record, I was cheering Flinders on.
sorry but i think that's b*ll*cks.

They are stewards, not bodyguards, bouncers or human walls.

As you know, football stadiums do not have the fans caged in any more. Therefore, in each and every game there has to be an element of responsibility & self control from all fans.

If these 'fans' choose to ignore very simple rules then I have no sympathy whatsoever. Like the fatty kid that got pole-axed by a horse at the end of the Luton game last season.

Anyway, my vote on here: Flinders = correct.
 

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Parents = if they encouraged them to do it ban them.
Kids = clearly don't have much of an example to follow so they deserve a second chance.
Stewards = not good enough and could cost the club.
Flinders = right to get them off the pitch. Wrong to throw them.
Bottle throwers = disgrace. No justification at all.
 

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what rubbish, the keeper was out of order. i know the kids shouldn't have been on the pitch, but so what? the keeper can't just assualt a couple of twelve year old kids. if a player commits a fould then does that give the right for the keeper to throw that player on the floor? no of course it doesn't, just because someone is in the wrong he has no right to take the law into his own hands. he is a coward who wouldn't have done it if the person was older than the little kids.
 

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what rubbish, the keeper was out of order. i know the kids shouldn't have been on the pitch, but so what? the keeper can't just assualt a couple of twelve year old kids. if a player commits a fould then does that give the right for the keeper to throw that player on the floor? no of course it doesn't, just because someone is in the wrong he has no right to take the law into his own hands. he is a coward who wouldn't have done it if the person was older than the little kids.
What complete and utter codswallop.

Keeper was absolutely right. Well done Scott Flinders.

These might have been young kids but I would go further and give them a 12 month ban from GP.

I was frankly stunned when some of the Ealing retards started throwing bottles at him. There is a problem at that end of the ground and its about time it was recognised for what it is.

A bit of self policing by some of the more adult fans in that end wouldn't go amiss. Does it happen though? :shrug:
 

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And to the chavs offering out the keeper, you didnt try very hard to get on the pitch and get him at the end ... but resorted to trying take on their Chairman and Director .. and it takes our CEO to hold you back .. hope your proud of yourselves :rolleyes:

AS didnt look to impressed .. fancy supporting a team when even the manager thinks your ****
 

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I was frankly stunned when some of the Ealing retards started throwing bottles at him. There is a problem at that end of the ground and its about time it was recognised for what it is.
i personally cant see any solution (other then self control and a bit of growing up) then to put seats in. its not what i want, i hate sitting, but part of the problem is the ease of 'melting' into the crowd on terraces imo. they know the chances of getting caught are slim to none in amongst a largeish crowd.
 

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What complete and utter codswallop.

Keeper was absolutely right. Well done Scott Flinders.

These might have been young kids but I would go further and give them a 12 month ban from GP.

I was frankly stunned when some of the Ealing retards started throwing bottles at him. There is a problem at that end of the ground and its about time it was recognised for what it is.

A bit of self policing by some of the more adult fans in that end wouldn't go amiss. Does it happen though? :shrug:
you haven't actually adressed my point. i said the kids were in the wrong, but i was talking abut the keeper, who you've ignored. if you're going to say what i say is 'codswallap' then actually at least way why...
 

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Definitely right. Teach them not to go onto pitch. New Road totally behind Flinders. We dont want idiots like that who run on pitch and throw bottles. How clever will it be if we get fined etc? Those idiots wont pay.
 

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Scott Flinders was totally in the right, Hartlepool wanted to win and those 2 little oiks were holding the game up. The stewards should have taken the kids off him rather than standing around looking stupid as he was carrying them off the pitch, and he was a little rough but perfectly within reason.

Not a fan of the ER lot who were throwing bottles and booing, but I was there in NR cheering and applauding Flinders so as to drown those idiots out. I felt proud of our fans who showed their support for football regardless of the team rather than those thugs who will end up getting us a fine.

Go Flinders Go!
 

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100% behind Flinders and stood and applauded his actions. I hope that the spotty little oiks who ran onto the pitch or those who threw bottles on will contribute to the fine that we'll get (but, of course, there's no chance of that, is three?:rolleyes:).

At the very least, I'd rather that they all stayed away from any of the club's games in future.
 

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sorry but i think that's b*ll*cks.

They are stewards, not bodyguards, bouncers or human walls.

As you know, football stadiums do not have the fans caged in any more. Therefore, in each and every game there has to be an element of responsibility & self control from all fans.

If these 'fans' choose to ignore very simple rules then I have no sympathy whatsoever. Like the fatty kid that got pole-axed by a horse at the end of the Luton game last season.

Anyway, my vote on here: Flinders = correct.
So what is a stewards job then? No they aren't bodyguards but these were two kids and all they had to do was stop them coming on the pitch or at least removing them from it. If they can't handle twelve year old kids they shouldn't be stewarding at football.
 

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you haven't actually adressed my point. i said the kids were in the wrong, but i was talking abut the keeper, who you've ignored. if you're going to say what i say is 'codswallap' then actually at least way why...
Would you have said the same thing if it was Chesney who'd dumped them at the side of the pitch ?
 

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you haven't actually adressed my point. i said the kids were in the wrong, but i was talking abut the keeper, who you've ignored. if you're going to say what i say is 'codswallap' then actually at least way why...
Because the kids were on the pitch giving it the big one in front of the crowd. This was a huge game for Hartlepool and I'm sure the keeper wanted them off the pitch as soon as possible, something the stewards weren't doing. At the end of the day, he threw them off the pitch into the arms of stewards who weren't doing their job very well. He didn't stab them or punch them. It wasn't assault. Personally I applaud him for what he did.

If you can't see what he did was right rather than wrong then perhaps you are part of the problem not the solution.
 

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I'll wait until it's put on youtube before commenting :D
 

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