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Credit to Sergi and the backroom staff as his development over this season has been brilliant. Still not the finished article in some areas but an important member of the squad now. Does help when you have 2 or 3 good players vying for the same position so there are no guaranteed starting slots in the team, which we have.
It's not development so much as rehabilitation. He had a serious injury last season and it will take time for his body and mind to fully recover.
 

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Does help when you have 2 or 3 good players vying for the same position so there are no guaranteed starting slots in the team, which we have.

As things stand, I see Fosu as an automatic choice in the starting line-up with Mbeumo and Canos alternating for the other wide role, with Sergi probably having the edge right now. It's it's comforting to think that with Ghoddos and Jensen able to alternate and Norgaard and Macondes set to come back soon, there is so much scope for rotation, particularly towards the end of the season when the wear and tear on legs really starts to tell. There are one or two positions I'm not quite so relaxed about, but overall I'm confident we have enough left in the locker to see us over the line and into the Premier League.
 

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It's not development so much as rehabilitation. He had a serious injury last season and it will take time for his body and mind to fully recover.
Take your point but also think its development in the player. IMO he is more influential now and in the best form for us since he has been here, but can still be better imo, sure that will come.
 

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Shooting from distance can have benefits but is largely wasteful... One of the main benefits though of having a couple of players who can score long rangers is that defences know that they can't simply sit deep against you. If they don't come out to meet the player, then you could pull the trigger and score (like Canos and JDS can). That in turn can create space to work and pass your way into.

However as said it can also waste possession quite often, so it's still best to shoot from distance where there is some semblance that something could happen. Canos's shot tonight was probably a bit silly...no way he was going to get the power in it to get past the goalkeeper. Fortunately he spilled it however but I still think he shouldn't have taken that on.

Sorry totally disagree with that. So you are criticising Canos for taking an option which led directly to a goal :confused:.

He made the space and surprised the keeper with the angle of the shot - which is why the keeper could only palm it into Toney's path. Maybe the keeper should have done better but you could say that in approximately 50% of the goals conceded every weekend in the Championship! Canos is no more wasteful in possession than any of our attacking players.
 

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Sorry totally disagree with that. So you are criticising Canos for taking an option which led directly to a goal :confused:.

He made the space and surprised the keeper with the angle of the shot - which is why the keeper could only palm it into Toney's path. Maybe the keeper should have done better but you could say that in approximately 50% of the goals conceded every weekend in the Championship! Canos is no more wasteful in possession than any of our attacking players.


When coaching you tell players to always make sure the shot is below the crossbar. Better for it to go wide than over, because even if it is going wide, it might be deflected or fall to one of your own players. If you hit it high there is not chance of that. Canos got it on target and made the keeper dive at full stretch......job done as far as I am concerned, even if it hadnt leadto a goal.
 

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Take your point but also think its development in the player. IMO he is more influential now and in the best form for us since he has been here, but can still be better imo, sure that will come.
Yep the rehabilitation has been getting repaired then match fit and fitter. The development is all about better decisions. Dont give away stupid free kicks in dangerous positions and dont always shoot - but sometimes is OK as Ivan will second!
 

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Shooting from distance can have benefits but is largely wasteful... One of the main benefits though of having a couple of players who can score long rangers is that defences know that they can't simply sit deep against you. If they don't come out to meet the player, then you could pull the trigger and score (like Canos and JDS can). That in turn can create space to work and pass your way into.

However as said it can also waste possession quite often, so it's still best to shoot from distance where there is some semblance that something could happen. Canos's shot tonight was probably a bit silly...no way he was going to get the power in it to get past the goalkeeper. Fortunately he spilled it however but I still think he shouldn't have taken that on.

Bit weird this post.

We moaned when players never shot "trying to score the perfect goal"
We moan when they shoot "Wasteful"

IMO it was what was needed. A defence up against it, prob expecting us to pass or recycle the ball, keeper deflated after conceding.

He hit it, got a decent connection and a few yards wider its likely to go in. He tested the keeper and the keeper fluffed it. Happy days!!!! Cracking decision from Sergi ;)
 

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Bit weird this post.

We moaned when players never shot "trying to score the perfect goal"
We moan when they shoot "Wasteful"

IMO it was what was needed. A defence up against it, prob expecting us to pass or recycle the ball, keeper deflated after conceding.

He hit it, got a decent connection and a few yards wider its likely to go in. He tested the keeper and the keeper fluffed it. Happy days!!!! Cracking decision from Sergi ;)
Indeed, I was very happy when Sergi got the ball because I knew he would shoot if he had a chance and he did, Toney made the rest.

I do understand that people like us to keep possession no matter what but having other options too is always benefical. I have always hoped us to shoot more outside penalty area when opportunity arises because decent shots create goals, directly or indirectly, and Sergi's decision is a great example of that.
 

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Indeed, I was very happy when Sergi got the ball because I knew he would shoot if he had a chance and he did, Toney made the rest.

I do understand that people like us to keep possession no matter what but having other options too is always benefical. I have always hoped us to shoot more outside penalty area when opportunity arises because decent shots create goals, directly or indirectly, and Sergi's decision is a great example of that.

Exactly. What you get with Sergi is an understanding that 2-3 long range shots will hit the back row or fly wide. But give him multiple chances at your peril, because he is one or only a couple in the team who can arrow a ball into the top corner. Now JDS is one who i would give less opportunities if he was playing against us
 

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I did wonder whether part of the appeal of Saman Ghoddos was his ability to score from range. I think it adds a different dimension to our attacking play meaning teams can’t just fill the penalty area. Have no problem with Sergi or Bryan shooting from distance from time to time, keeps the oppo on their toes, just as long as they don’t do it every time...
 

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Get the feeling this thread might be busy this afternoon. 🤐🤐

It could be busy for several players after today.

Canos is due a poor one. He’s, otherwise, stepped up to the plate in previous matches.

sh*t happens.

He isn’t the real issue.
 

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Quite honestly one of the most inept performances I've seen a Brentford player have this season today. Despite any improvements over the past few months this was very much a step backwards. Obviously no one covered themselves in glory but he had nearly triple the amount of unsuccessful touches of any other Brentford player and the worst pass completion of any Brentford player to complete the full 90. Hopefully he and the team can get out of this rut sooner rather than later.
 

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Why? He’s been no worse than others today. At least he gives 100%.
If by 'gives 100%' you mean gives possession away 100% of the time then I think you might be onto something. Sure it's not his fault if he gives his all it's completely inadequate, but there probably should be a change in style or approach to compensate for that.
 

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Quite honestly one of the most inept performances I've seen a Brentford player have this season today. Despite any improvements over the past few months this was very much a step backwards. Obviously no one covered themselves in glory but he had nearly triple the amount of unsuccessful touches of any other Brentford player and the worst pass completion of any Brentford player to complete the full 90. Hopefully he and the team can get out of this rut sooner rather than later.

Havent been watching us for long then?
 

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Laughable performance from Canos, turning up a couple of times a season isn’t going to get us success.
Nice guy, rubbish player.
Thats a bit harsh, ok he wasn't good today, but then again who was?

He has been fantastic of late.
 

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Havent been watching us for long then?
You'd do well to read the whole sentence rather than the bit you bolded, particularly the bit where I said 'this season'. Just makes your comment look a bit silly otherwise when you resort to pithy comments while having poor reading comprehension.
 

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You'd do well to read the whole sentence rather than the bit you bolded, particularly the bit where I said 'this season'. Just makes your comment look a bit silly otherwise when you resort to pithy comments while having poor reading comprehension.
No it stands up, ive seen a worse performance then that this season. He gave more then any player out there today. Had no link up with Forss. So take your original pithy comment and carry on.
 

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No it stands up, ive seen a worse performance then that this season. He gave more then any player out there today. Had no link up with Forss. So take your original pithy comment and carry on.
You're not very good at this whole reading thing are you. I'd point you to the part of the sentence where I said 'one of', and I think it is one of the most inept individual performances from a Brentford player this season. So you saying you've seen worse doesn't invalidate my comment, there probably have been worse. Nearly 20% of his touches were unsuccessful resulting in a loss of possession, that's staggering for a professional footballer. Of the remaining 80% of his touches, over 40% of those were passes which didn't go to another Brentford player. I don't think it is unreasonable for me to extrapolate that it was one of the worst performances from a Brentford player this season based on this.
 

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If by 'gives 100%' you mean gives possession away 100% of the time then I think you might be onto something. Sure it's not his fault if he gives his all it's completely inadequate, but there probably should be a change in style or approach to compensate for that.

We’ve lost today because Robins has won the battle over Frank and the high press has made the whole team look a bit silly.

Yeah Canos was poor but his individual performance has not lost us this match.
 

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We’ve lost today because Robins has won the battle over Frank and the high press has made the whole team look a bit silly.

Yeah Canos was poor but his individual performance has not lost us this match.
I agree. I don't think it was solely Canos' fault Brentford lost, he's being played or told to play in a way that exposed his weaknesses badly today. But that doesn't mean he didn't play badly and doesn't mean he doesn't try hard. Both of those things can be true.
 

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I went to the top of this page and Sergei was rightly being lauded. By the bottom of the page, he’s apparently terrible. Get a grip! They were all poor today and they will all bounce back (including Sergei). 10 days ago we went top! It’s a poor spell - all teams have them
 

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I went to the top of this page and Sergei was rightly being lauded. By the bottom of the page, he’s apparently terrible. Get a grip! They were all poor today and they will all bounce back (including Sergei). 10 days ago we went top! It’s a poor spell - all teams have them

I blame @gashbee for lighting a match and walking away 🤣
 

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We're a bit stuck with our 'perm any 2 from 3' wide players but, in my opinion, he was clearly the worst of the 3 today, maybe the colour of our kit contributed. He seemed to have lost any semblance to a footballer but I'm sure he can recover from that.
 

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I would like to see him dropped for the next one, I know Mbeumo wasn’t very good today but Canos was really poor. Lost the ball and made lots of wrong decisions. I know we like to play Mbeumo on the right but I think Fosu has looked good there, where can’t we play Fosu right and Mbeumo left?
 

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I wouldn’t play mbeumo at all frankly. This is the area we knew was a problem during the window and we didn’t push the boat to bring another in.. I believe this will prove costly. But what’s done is done .
 

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I wouldn’t play mbeumo at all frankly. This is the area we knew was a problem during the window and we didn’t push the boat to bring another in.. I believe this will prove costly. But what’s done is done .
Costly is the perfect word! In the middle of a pandemic when the club has little or no income, and next season is not guaranteed to be any better is not a good time to push the boat out.
 

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Costly is the perfect word! In the middle of a pandemic when the club has little or no income, and next season is not guaranteed to be any better is not a good time to push the boat out.

If you are flying in the table and going for promotion? after selling two players for bundles of cash??
 

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Wether you are for or against him at the moment it’s notable that he’s had a good wing man behind him in Rico Henry and that’s about to change. The change in personnel behind him may help or hinder how he’s expected to play. TF may give him more attacking responsibility which might help him. Dunno. Be interesting to see.
 

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Wether you are for or against him at the moment it’s notable that he’s had a good wing man behind him in Rico Henry and that’s about to change. The change in personnel behind him may help or hinder how he’s expected to play. TF may give him more attacking responsibility which might help him. Dunno. Be interesting to see.
I don't think he's ever developed a good understanding with Henry. It's usually Jensen feeding a ball though the channel that he seems to have the better understanding with.
 

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Had Sergi played a blinder today I doubt it would've made much difference.
 

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I don't think he's ever developed a good understanding with Henry. It's usually Jensen feeding a ball though the channel that he seems to have the better understanding with.
My point is his game is to either attack or to look for the Henry overlap. The overlap option is unlikely with any stand in player.
 

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I understand the sentiment towarrds Sergi as a possible Bees legend etc, not surprisingly fans love the fact that he generally leaves it all on the pitch and would appear to love the club. We like that. But he does have repeat blind spots.....his decision making in the final third is often wrong, too often shooting or overplaying when better options were available. And he loses possession far too regularly, probably more than any other player in the side. The upside is that more often than not, it's in the attacking half. He's had some good game this season no question, but I would like to see Fosu start ahead for the next run of games with Canos on the bench.
 

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Sorry, I needed a few hours to myself after watching that. Personally I have been one of Canos’ biggest supporters. I was waiting for him to have a poor one (which he did today) and watch this thread gain activity.
Anyway, apologies if any raw nerves have been touched.
love you Sergi ❤️
 

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He just needs to calm down on the ball, put his head up and find a good pass plus his tracking back has been a little poor. Summed up today when he threw his arms up in a tantrum today Ronaldo style and walked off while his team mates ran back to get the ball.
 

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If you are flying in the table and going for promotion? after selling two players for bundles of cash??
Thats as maybe, the only money we have coming into the club is a small amount from ifollow, and the season ticket money held back which the club will not get next season. There is no guarantee that there will be 17,500 in the ground in August let alone next February. The club is playing in a very large new stadium with all the associated cost but with no extra income. The club loses money even in a good season let alone having to budget for this, and next season without any season ticket money in the midst of a pandemic, and you wish to spend a few more million pounds. Players sales are paid on the knock, and will have been budgeted for. Whatever happened in January there would be many still calling for a big spend in the summer. The reason we are where we are, at the top end of the Championship, and playing in a new stadium is that there has been a very well managed budget over the past 10 years or so. I for one do not want to see begging bowls out again or a new owner. I am content to leave the financial matters to those who have, and still are doing a very good job.
 

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He just needs to calm down on the ball, put his head up and find a good pass plus his tracking back has been a little poor. Summed up today when he threw his arms up in a tantrum today Ronaldo style and walked off while his team mates ran back to get the ball.
Yes i noticed that and was not impressed. I like Sergi a lot. But today i thought his ball control was Sunday morning after a Saturday night.
 

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Thats as maybe, the only money we have coming into the club is a small amount from ifollow, and the season ticket money held back which the club will not get next season. There is no guarantee that there will be 17,500 in the ground in August let alone next February. The club is playing in a very large new stadium with all the associated cost but with no extra income. The club loses money even in a good season let alone having to budget for this, and next season without any season ticket money in the midst of a pandemic, and you wish to spend a few more million pounds. Players sales are paid on the knock, and will have been budgeted for. Whatever happened in January there would be many still calling for a big spend in the summer. The reason we are where we are, at the top end of the Championship, and playing in a new stadium is that there has been a very well managed budget over the past 10 years or so. I for one do not want to see begging bowls out again or a new owner. I am content to leave the financial matters to those who have, and still are doing a very good job.
Great post,we have had a sh*t week. But. What this club has achieved in the last 10 years is nothing short of extraordinary.we have to keep going all is not lost.
 

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Sorry, I needed a few hours to myself after watching that. Personally I have been one of Canos’ biggest supporters. I was waiting for him to have a poor one (which he did today) and watch this thread gain activity.
Anyway, apologies if any raw nerves have been touched.
love you Sergi ❤

With you on this one Gash, he had a stinker today but let's be honest he was one of XI in that respect....well maybe 10 I excuse Janelt….he did try but nothing was happening for him and he was a forlorn figure for the last 10-15 minutes. I'm not sure citing his possession stats today really tells us a lot as bad as his passing was his static colleagues made his give and go game virtually redundant anyway. With no effective front man to play off and the loss of Rico it was head down and charging into blind alleys. He put a couple of decent crosses in that we never looked like converting.
 

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I wouldn’t play mbeumo at all frankly. This is the area we knew was a problem during the window and we didn’t push the boat to bring another in.. I believe this will prove costly. But what’s done is done .

I hope by 'we' you didn't expect me to throw my loose change into a bucket to fund a new signing. I've had my time with that. But by all means, feel free to contribute to getting in suitable recruits.
 
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