Signings and Departures 2012 / 2013

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I had not been on for a few days and I am amazed at the simmering/barely disguised anger at uwe and his team. Its supposed to be an exciting time as we kick off the new season instead some people are going into the season already with a downer on the management and by assocaition on the team. This is exactly the kind of of ferment that means if things do not go perfectly by halftime on Tuesday booing begins at Griffin Park which in turn causes anxiety and resentment amongst the players who under-perform even more leading to more booing etc etc. Please realx give the management and team at least 10 games of full blown support to see how things are going. This external micro management is not healthy.

Errr, people are entitled to feel underwhelmed by the overall position of the squad. Aren't they?
 

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Errr, people are entitled to feel underwhelmed by the overall position of the squad. Aren't they?

Nope, if you question anything then you are in a panic and the need for rallying cries is huge.
I'm really looking forward to a day out tomorrow, I'm expecting 3 points and a good performance, if it goes to plan I'll post accordingly and praise the people involved, if not I'll tell the truth and await the rallying type posts.
 

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"For the second year running", is it?
His "second year" (season) hasn't even started yet and the window is still open.

As for his first, he had two decent forwards in MacDonald and Alexander and both left for reasons outwith his control.

Had it not been for Uwe (along with a good shift from Nicky F), the next level for BFC would have been League Two.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, what would Uwe Rosler know about forward play...lol

Don't entirely disagree with this post but certainly do with the last point. Being a good practitioner, whether a footballer or any other occupation, certainly doesn't necessarily make that person a good manager. I have known many excellent people in my working life who couldn't manage as long as they had a sphincter, equally I have known a lot of excellent managers who were a little 'challenged' on the practical front! Messi and Ronaldo are not nailed on to be great managers no matter how fabulous they are as players and the much less mercurial Rosler has yet to convince me that he is the answer to our continuing woes insofar as getting out, and staying out, of this division is concerned (sincerely hope i'm wrong btw).
 

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Nope, if you question anything then you are in a panic and the need for rallying cries is huge.
I'm really looking forward to a day out tomorrow, I'm expecting 3 points and a good performance, if it goes to plan I'll post accordingly and praise the people involved, if not I'll tell the truth and await the rallying type posts.

Sincerely hoping it's the former NB and we're all enthused about our chances this season. :can'tdothumbsupsmilyonthisphone:
 

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Sincerely hoping it's the former NB and we're all enthused about our chances this season. :can'tdothumbsupsmilyonthisphone:

Rest assured, if we lose the first 8 games I will be screaming to give him at least 10 before we make a knee jerking decision.
Bury are managerless, we are wounded after last week, we've got better and they haven't, 3 points coming our way.
 

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and surely this is always a game UR wants to win even more seeing as though Bury "wouldnt even give him an interview".
 

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Don't entirely disagree with this post but certainly do with the last point. Being a good practitioner, whether a footballer or any other occupation, certainly doesn't necessarily make that person a good manager.

Ian St. John.
Great forward. Terrible manager.
(Showing my age a bit here).

Also, the ability to spot and size up talent is a bit of a mystery. I reckon it's what sorts out the proper managers (who last in the long run) from the ones who get found out after maybe some initial success, e.g. perhaps Roy Keane who ended up just trying to sign ex-Man U.
 

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Too much worrying going on here!

lets just get behind the lads and give them our support, I am sure Farid is going to have a stormer tomorrow and who knows he might even bring out the killer instinct in Clayton that he longs for......

hopefully...

plus theres still two weeks till the window closes.........

everything will fall into place....:banana:
 

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I had not been on for a few days and I am amazed at the simmering/barely disguised anger at uwe and his team. Its supposed to be an exciting time as we kick off the new season instead some people are going into the season already with a downer on the management and by assocaition on the team. This is exactly the kind of of ferment that means if things do not go perfectly by halftime on Tuesday booing begins at Griffin Park which in turn causes anxiety and resentment amongst the players who under-perform even more leading to more booing etc etc. Please realx give the management and team at least 10 games of full blown support to see how things are going. This external micro management is not healthy.

I would suggest that they have had a good 50 games plus to work things out.
 

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OK I give in - LOTS MORE MONEY MUST BE SPENT, PROVEN PLAYERS IN ALL POSITIONS ONLY, LOTS OF SURE FIRE YOUNGSTERS IS A GIVEN, UWE HAS HAD LONG ENOUGH ITS TIME TO GO, WHAT HAVE HE AND WARBURTON BEEN UP TO!!(oh by the way I have no knowledge of what has been going on and I personally could not run a bath but FFS get a grip Brentford!!!)
 

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I really hope that all these drama queens who keep telling us to calm down and not panic will just calm down and not panic!
 

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As expected no signings today ready for tomorrow. :(

Even if we did make a signing today, would they really be ready for tomorrow anyway ?
 

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Interesting that Northampton have 7 (seven) forwards!

We are entering the second season when we seem likely to have to cope with just 2.

Something wrong somewhere - Neil Warnock always ensures a surfeit of forwards even if he has little else and you can't argue against his record.
 

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You'll be accused of panicking now which seems to be mistaken for expressing valid concerns
 
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Even if we did make a signing today, would they really be ready for tomorrow anyway ?

You would expect they would be ready for the bench, again we will not have a forward on the bench to change the game if we are losing.
 

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As expected no signings today ready for tomorrow. :(

its the paperwork that has to be sorted out by midday not the public announcement i'd imagine :wave:
 

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I was all calm until banbury got me thinking, new pants please.
Get a grip people. stop the panic, everything is and always will be rosy, let them do their stuff and never question anything.

CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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So no forward then.

Come on, Myles is quite good at going down in the box, that's got to count for something?

Either way, if we sign a new striker today I'd hop they don't start tomorrow, if we've been preparring for the game with Clayton and Farid in mind then let's stick to that preparation. If we get someone in on Saturday afternoon that we can work into our plans for Yeovil on Tuesday than that is not a bad outcome.
 

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OK I give in - LOTS MORE MONEY MUST BE SPENT, PROVEN PLAYERS IN ALL POSITIONS ONLY, LOTS OF SURE FIRE YOUNGSTERS IS A GIVEN, UWE HAS HAD LONG ENOUGH ITS TIME TO GO, WHAT HAVE HE AND WARBURTON BEEN UP TO!!(oh by the way I have no knowledge of what has been going on and I personally could not run a bath but FFS get a grip Brentford!!!)

We are going into the season at least one, and probably two, strikers short of a balanced squad. We have been in the same position for quite a few months now. It is difficult to be uncritically excited about the new season given this situation. I don't feel it is excessively negative for people to point this out nor that it is a sign that they are losing their grip. Perhaps the concern is unwarranted and CD and Farid, with support from the development players, will prove all we require. I hope so. But I for one will be keeping my expectations firmly under control until there is more evidence that this is the case or (my preferred alternative) we bring in a couple of reasonable league one strikers to support - and provide competition for - our first choice pair.
 

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If Farid or Clayton was to score a Hat-Trick tomorrow would all this striker talk quieten down?
 

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Myles from the bench will certainly give the opposition something to think about... will their defenders keep up with him... will he have the ball...
 

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Myles from the bench will certainly give the opposition something to think about... will their defenders keep up with him... will he have the ball...

Maybe he could stick the ball under his shirt and leg it towards goal ,then tap it in
 
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If Farid or Clayton was to score a Hat-Trick tomorrow would all this striker talk quieten down?

Yes, because we only have two first choice strikers at the club, happy with Clayton & Farid, just would like another two to go with them, what ever the result tomorrow.
 

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Touched a nerve methinks! Lots of 'we are only be practical' , 'we must be allowed our views' and 'we are not panicking' etc . I never mentioned panic just suggesting balance which from the reaction is not allowed, its join in or shut up.
 

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Whys everyone getting so upset....im sure Uve's not doing this on purpose !!! He'll bring in the new striker as soon as he can.
 

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I dont know what all the panic is about...... uwe has said in the chronny that we are trying to bring in a striker at the moment so he clearly knows we need another. The problem is with a proven league 1 scorer champ clubs will try to buy and outbid us, proven league 2 striker you have a chance of getting him but its a risk as you dont know if they can cut it in the league above. That gem we want is out there and imho whoever we sign next will not be a proven championship or league 1 20 goals a season striker. It will be a champ or prem youngster like schlupp or similar or a proven conference, small scottish club or league 2 striker. We will not and cannot pay what it takes to sign players like painter, barnard, wibraham, hulse and others mentioned. We are bigger club than we were but are still not a big club. We average about 5.5k attendances a week and dont have massive support base so whoever it will be will be a risk as we are club on the up not a club who is up!!!!!
 

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Can I just say that I'm not upset, in a panic or in need of calm. My only worry is getting some sleep so that I'm in the wide awake club for an early start tomorrow, some drinking and social stuff to be done.
 

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Can I just say that I'm not upset, in a panic or in need of calm. My only worry is getting some sleep so that I'm in the wide awake club for an early start tomorrow, some drinking and social stuff to be done.

Thank god your going by rail then.......
 

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Am I correct in thinking the deadline was 12 today to be able to play tomorrow or have I got that very wring?
 

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Am I correct in thinking the deadline was 12 today to be able to play tomorrow or have I got that very wring?

correct. although BFC can announce it at 5 tonight though! here's hoping!
 

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Don't entirely disagree with this post but certainly do with the last point. Being a good practitioner, whether a footballer or any other occupation, certainly doesn't necessarily make that person a good manager. I have known many excellent people in my working life who couldn't manage as long as they had a sphincter, equally I have known a lot of excellent managers who were a little 'challenged' on the practical front! Messi and Ronaldo are not nailed on to be great managers no matter how fabulous they are as players and the much less mercurial Rosler has yet to convince me that he is the answer to our continuing woes insofar as getting out, and staying out, of this division is concerned (sincerely hope i'm wrong btw).
Maybe I didn't make myself clear.

I was replying to 'JTofBFC' who stated UR doesn't know anything about forwards etc. Now if the poster had said he knows nothing about "footballers", "signing players" or "football management" generally etc, then fair enough - that's his opinion and it will be proven/disproved in time.

I was just taking JT up on his implication that Uwe may be doing a good enough job when it comes to GK's/Defenders/Midfielders etc, but is deficient when it comes to valueing, assessing and signing forwards.

If anything, one might expect it to be the other way round. Therefore my explanation for his failure to fill what is an obvious gap in his squad is actually rather simpler. That is, goalscoring forwards are the rarest, most valuable and consequently the priciest commodity in football, and with BFC hardly being the wealthiest club in the League, we inevitably struggle to sign and/or keep such players.
 

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Just put a three figure wager on Myles to be League 1 top goal scorer

Chill, Winston
 

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Myles Weston has signed for Gillingham on a two year deal. On their website. What the hell?
 

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Warburton needs to brush up on his geography.......the winters in the likes of Germany, Denmark, Sweden and most all Eastern European countries are far more harsh than HARTLEPOOL. These mythical cold Tuesday nights when our players don't seem to be able to perform is a poor excuse.
As against that, many of those countries either have a winter break, or play Summer football.

Anyhow, I suspect that "a freezing wet night in Hartlepool" is shorthand for the notion that lower League football in england is "harder" than it's equivalent in many other countries, since all the clubs are full-time, we play an average 50-odd games a season, and the clubs within each Division are generally reasonably similar in standard. Consequently, there are few (if any) easy games, rather the season is pretty much a ceaseless grind, where the most resilient sides flourish more often than the most skillful.

To give an example, I remember reading a story about Juninho, the marvellous little Brazilian who used to play for M'boro. Soon after he arrived at the Riverside, Boro were drawn away to Notts County in the League Cup (1st or 2nd Round). when the Coach pulled up at the County Ground and he got his first look around, he couldn't believe that a 3rd Division (maybe even 4th at the time?) could have such a stadium, facilities and support etc. In fact, he was convinced that his teammates had been pulling his leg and that they'd actually been drawn to play Nottingham Forest!

Anyhow, what that demonstrates (I think) is that when signing players from abroad, it is essential that they understand and are likely to cope with demands of a nature and extent that they might not have experienced at home in their own lower Leagues.

P.S. I'm not claiming that the above stereotypes are true - if nothing else, I don't know nearly enough about foreign Leagues. However, I am pretty sure that Uwe Rosler and maybe even Mark Warburton do.
 
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Am I correct in thinking the deadline was 12 today to be able to play tomorrow or have I got that very wring?

Even if we were to sign 'this' striker today bearing in mind he wouldn't have trained with the squad thus meaning he knows no other players strengths/weaknesses, would you even want him in the squad so soon? I know I wouldn't.
Just get this game out of the way, stop panicking and have faith in the team we already have and fully support them and get behind them. I'm sure Uwe is working around the clock to rectify this so for the time being... Chill dudes x
 
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