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Not a bad win in the end but we were made to work for it. Some really good finishes tonight out of the four we took. I went in the main stand as the view is so crap from the away end, and even the Southend fans around me applauded Said’s, and our third, goal.

Our defending for their first left a lot to be desired but their second was a superb finish.

Daniels does not inspire me with confidence and was shaky all night. I’d like to see Bonham given a run out in the next round.
 

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Not a bad win in the end but we were made to work for it. Some really good finishes tonight out of the four we took. I went in the main stand as the view is so crap from the away end, and even the Southend fans around me applauded Said’s, and our third, goal.

Our defending for their first left a lot to be desired but their second was a superb finish.

Daniels does not inspire me with confidence and was shaky all night. I’d like to see Bonham given a run out in the next round.

Must be difficult for the 2nd choice keeper to sit there all season only playing a handful of cup games and come in full of confidence?

He did get himself completely stranded though for their chance before their first goal.
 
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Must be difficult for the 2nd choice keeper to sit there all season only playing a handful of cup games and come in full of confidence?

He did get himself completely stranded though for their chance before their first goal.

Granted, but he makes basic errors too often
 

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Granted, but he makes basic errors too often

I have to admit I don't see him as much of a step up from Bonham personally. Plus Jack had a season at Carlisle under his belt..
 

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I have to admit I don't see him as much of a step up from Bonham personally. Plus Jack had a season at Carlisle under his belt..

Jack has a season but it could be countered with Daniels having nearly 200 league games under his belt. Its always going to be tough coming into a team for 2-3 games a season and perform to a top standard.
 

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Daniels is okay for the odd game here and there but I wouldn't want to see him have a run in the first team. On the other hand, the same applies to Bonham!

I thought there were some real plus points and a few not-so-good performances. Jeanvier looks to have the lot - he can tackle, block, head and yet he's very composed and his passing out to Woods was crisp and accurate. I can see him being a real star ... but instead of who? I heard a few people around me saying that he was to blame for Sorensen's injury as it was a poor ball to him but I think half the problem was that Sorensen didn't anticipate it in time. Sorensen looked okay but still a way off the first-team.

I also thought Tom Field was very good as was Mokotjo in the middle. We saw the best and worst of Ryan Woods - typical tidying up and some exceptional skills to get himself out of tight situations but he also gave the ball away more than usual. A lack of game time, perhaps?

Marcus Forss showed what we've seen from him in the B team, he's quick and strong and can score goals. He's a little way off of course, but probably closer than Sorensen on tonight's showing.

I know Josh Clarke got an assist for the first goal and made some scintillating forward bursts but I was a bit disappointed with how often he squandered possession. He's got to do better in the face of competition of others for his position and especially with the hopeful return of Odubajo. Alan Judge also didn't initially quite live up to what I was hoping for but I have to say that the last 20 minutes I saw the Alan Judge of old for the very first time.

As for Benrahama. Wow! Brentford supporters are going to love him!!
 

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Very enjoyable game which we seemed in control of despite Southend getting it back to 1-1 and 2-3. Lots of good performances, I thought Woods and Kamo were great, Benrahma was superb and is a real find. Jeanvier is very good on the ball, strong and quick as well. I liked the look of Forss who made lots of intelligent runs, one of which led to his goal. The real positive was that in the last 20-25 minutes Judge was really starting to make things tick and was all over the pitch, that was the first time since the injury that I saw some of the old Alan Judge, encouraging signs.
 

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Learned an awful lot from today’s match.

Daniels - confident and accurate in his distribution. Decent reflexes and handling okay. But he lacks the presence of a 1st choice Championship goalkeeper. And with a lack of first team matches he position was a bit off at times. Seems a bit silly having both he and Jack Bonham at the club. 6/10

Clarke - typical Clarke performance. Always excellent driving forward from full back. But when he’s not in lots of space his passing lets him down - ball retention is a huge part of our game. 6.5/10

Jeanvier - brave and physical, he’ll be a bit of a fans favourite. But I’m really not convinced he’s ready for the Championship just yet - he reminded me of Barbet when he first joined. Some of his positioning a little bit too risky and had a tendency to ‘dive in’. 6.5/10

Sorensen - basically not ready for first team football. A few pretty bits of play but generally looked a bit all over the place, was lethargic and his slow anticipation of the pass led to his injury. 5/10

Mepham - dreadful defensively. Looked fine with the ball at his feet. 4/10

Field - passing was sharp and did his job. 6/10

Mokotjo - superb. Absolutely everywhere and his passing was truly excellent. Just wish he would get ‘stuck in’ a bit more. 8/10

Yennaris - Did well and was part of a midfield that created a fair bit. But his final ball let him down, should have scored 1 or 2. 7/10

Woods - He looked great on the ball - and a cut above most (if not all) on the pitch. Moved around a lot and kept us ticking, dictating the pace of the play. However, I thought he really wasn’t very interested in defending or putting a foot in. Never thought I’d say that about Woods. 7/10

Judge - we relied a lot on his creativity at times and he seemed relatively composed on the ball for a change. Still not up to speed but was more of an effective team player tonight. 7/10

Forss - did very little but always looked like scoring. If he can bulk up and start to link more with the wide men we have a real player on our hands in the Harry Kane mould. Great finish. 7/10

Benrahma - way too good for them. Oozed class, but needs to be introduced gently to the championship, which is technically, tactically and physically a different kettle of fish from tonight. Thoroughly deserved his goal though and gets MOTM from me (just ahead of Mokotjo). 8.5/10

Canos - tried too hard. It was as if he’d seen Benrahma snatch his starting spot and he wanted to come on and prove a point. Was busy but final ball was poor. 5/10

Maupay - His passing and movement was pretty good as always but he’s really not a traditional impact sub. 6/10

Dean Smith - The team that played looked well oiled and motivated which you have to give Dean credit for. I thought our defensive shape was pretty appalling though - could just be down to Mepham having an off day and Jeanvier just getting used to English football. But it could have cost us the tie at one stage (they hit the bar when score was 3-2). 7/10
 

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Pretty entertaining game, again we played some nice stuff. Couldn't really see what happened for their first goal but having just seen it on the highlights it was a bit of an unfortunate richochet. And looked offside? Think Mepham is suffering from his lack of preseason, he just looks a bit rusty, although he also did some very good things tonight. Woods is a great footballer, but I don't think he makes the play move as well as some of our other midfielders. Benrhama = new folk hero; fantastic play tonight and a great goal, he was grinning from ear to ear when he came over at the finish.

Someone else who enjoyed their night was Mr Jeanvier: we followed three people in expensive-looking athleisure into the ground, they looked a bit bemused to find themselves in Southend, especially when a gormless steward told them they had to remove the top from their bottle of water. Don't know why I thought they might be F&F of JJ but so it proved, he went over after his goal for a big ol' cuddle.

Oh, and nice to see Alan Judge given the captaincy and thought he lived up to it - shame he didn't score, he came mighty close.
 
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Good fun game. We played some lovely stuff at times and should probably have been out of sight at HT, Yennaris and Mokotjo guilty of some bad misses. Southend much better value second half and gave us a few problems down the flanks especially down our right where Clarke had a torrid time. Some cracking goals though and we could have had a load more, their keeper made some very good saves to keep the score down. Quite a few positives, Jeanvier looked quality, strong and commanding and excellent on the ball. Read the game well too and got some important challenges in. Mokotjo had a cracking game, fantastic touch to set up Benhrama for his goal and then a great finish for our 4th (or did it get a deflection?). Judgey started to look more himself and was unlucky not to score, Woodsy had a decent game given he'd been out for so long but star of the night was obviously Benhrama. Canos has a job on his hands keeping his place.. I thought today showed the strength in depth we have and if you think we were also missing Moses, Marcondes, Ogbene and Henry then that would have been a frightening second 11 to put out! One thing that struck me was that the squad in general has stepped up a level technically and there were 2 or 3 tonight who struggled a little to keep up with that at times, in particular Clarke but also perhaps Field and Nico. You wonder how many opportunities these guys will have once everyone is fit?

Anyway, great fun in the end, looking forward to Sunday now. I think you can safely say that no matter what happens in the end this season, we're going to have a lot of fun watching some excellent football and players. Bring it on!!
 

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Learned an awful lot from today’s match.

Daniels - confident and accurate in his distribution. Decent reflexes and handling okay. But he lacks the presence of a 1st choice Championship goalkeeper. And with a lack of first team matches he position was a bit off at times. Seems a bit silly having both he and Jack Bonham at the club. 6/10

Clarke - typical Clarke performance. Always excellent driving forward from full back. But when he’s not in lots of space his passing lets him down - ball retention is a huge part of our game. 6.5/10

Jeanvier - brave and physical, he’ll be a bit of a fans favourite. But I’m really not convinced he’s ready for the Championship just yet - he reminded me of Barbet when he first joined. Some of his positioning a little bit too risky and had a tendency to ‘dive in’. 6.5/10

Sorensen - basically not ready for first team football. A few pretty bits of play but generally looked a bit all over the place, was lethargic and his slow anticipation of the pass led to his injury. 5/10

Mepham - dreadful defensively. Looked fine with the ball at his feet. 4/10

Field - passing was sharp and did his job. 6/10

Mokotjo - superb. Absolutely everywhere and his passing was truly excellent. Just wish he would get ‘stuck in’ a bit more. 8/10

Yennaris - Did well and was part of a midfield that created a fair bit. But his final ball let him down, should have scored 1 or 2. 7/10

Woods - He looked great on the ball - and a cut above most (if not all) on the pitch. Moved around a lot and kept us ticking, dictating the pace of the play. However, I thought he really wasn’t very interested in defending or putting a foot in. Never thought I’d say that about Woods. 7/10

Judge - we relied a lot on his creativity at times and he seemed relatively composed on the ball for a change. Still not up to speed but was more of an effective team player tonight. 7/10

Forss - did very little but always looked like scoring. If he can bulk up and start to link more with the wide men we have a real player on our hands in the Harry Kane mould. Great finish. 7/10

Benrahma - way too good for them. Oozed class, but needs to be introduced gently to the championship, which is technically, tactically and physically a different kettle of fish from tonight. Thoroughly deserved his goal though and gets MOTM from me (just ahead of Mokotjo). 8.5/10

Canos - tried too hard. It was as if he’d seen Benrahma snatch his starting spot and he wanted to come on and prove a point. Was busy but final ball was poor. 5/10

Maupay - His passing and movement was pretty good as always but he’s really not a traditional impact sub. 6/10

Dean Smith - The team that played looked well oiled and motivated which you have to give Dean credit for. I thought our defensive shape was pretty appalling though - could just be down to Mepham having an off day and Jeanvier just getting used to English football. But it could have cost us the tie at one stage (they hit the bar when score was 3-2). 7/10

Really enjoyed reading that summary.
 

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Learned an awful lot from today’s match.

Daniels - confident and accurate in his distribution. Decent reflexes and handling okay. But he lacks the presence of a 1st choice Championship goalkeeper. And with a lack of first team matches he position was a bit off at times. Seems a bit silly having both he and Jack Bonham at the club. 6/10

Clarke - typical Clarke performance. Always excellent driving forward from full back. But when he’s not in lots of space his passing lets him down - ball retention is a huge part of our game. 6.5/10

Jeanvier - brave and physical, he’ll be a bit of a fans favourite. But I’m really not convinced he’s ready for the Championship just yet - he reminded me of Barbet when he first joined. Some of his positioning a little bit too risky and had a tendency to ‘dive in’. 6.5/10

Sorensen - basically not ready for first team football. A few pretty bits of play but generally looked a bit all over the place, was lethargic and his slow anticipation of the pass led to his injury. 5/10

Mepham - dreadful defensively. Looked fine with the ball at his feet. 4/10

Field - passing was sharp and did his job. 6/10

Mokotjo - superb. Absolutely everywhere and his passing was truly excellent. Just wish he would get ‘stuck in’ a bit more. 8/10

Yennaris - Did well and was part of a midfield that created a fair bit. But his final ball let him down, should have scored 1 or 2. 7/10

Woods - He looked great on the ball - and a cut above most (if not all) on the pitch. Moved around a lot and kept us ticking, dictating the pace of the play. However, I thought he really wasn’t very interested in defending or putting a foot in. Never thought I’d say that about Woods. 7/10

Judge - we relied a lot on his creativity at times and he seemed relatively composed on the ball for a change. Still not up to speed but was more of an effective team player tonight. 7/10

Forss - did very little but always looked like scoring. If he can bulk up and start to link more with the wide men we have a real player on our hands in the Harry Kane mould. Great finish. 7/10

Benrahma - way too good for them. Oozed class, but needs to be introduced gently to the championship, which is technically, tactically and physically a different kettle of fish from tonight. Thoroughly deserved his goal though and gets MOTM from me (just ahead of Mokotjo). 8.5/10

Canos - tried too hard. It was as if he’d seen Benrahma snatch his starting spot and he wanted to come on and prove a point. Was busy but final ball was poor. 5/10

Maupay - His passing and movement was pretty good as always but he’s really not a traditional impact sub. 6/10

Dean Smith - The team that played looked well oiled and motivated which you have to give Dean credit for. I thought our defensive shape was pretty appalling though - could just be down to Mepham having an off day and Jeanvier just getting used to English football. But it could have cost us the tie at one stage (they hit the bar when score was 3-2). 7/10

Very informative. Cheers.
 

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Always good to read a mark out of ten and summary on each player. :sorted:
 

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Sky have just come up with this amazing stat!

Bees haven't had a clean sheet in the League Cup since 2001!!!
 
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Thanks for showing us just how big the gap is now between FL1 and the Championship, and that was with you guys fielding a 'weakened' side. It really brasses me off that we were good enough to let you have Daniel Bentley and that is how you repay us. Seriously, you must be a pretty good bet to challenge for the Premiership with the strength in depth of your current squad, you left us chasing shadows for the majority of the game. The only real plus point of the night for us was McClousky's goal, our second. That was pretty special by anyone's standards and we have the bloke on loan for the whole of the season. Good luck for the rest of the season and please try to avoid us in the FA Cup, we won't be offended.
 

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Thanks for showing us just how big the gap is now between FL1 and the Championship, and that was with you guys fielding a 'weakened' side. It really brasses me off that we were good enough to let you have Daniel Bentley and that is how you repay us. Seriously, you must be a pretty good bet to challenge for the Premiership with the strength in depth of your current squad, you left us chasing shadows for the majority of the game. The only real plus point of the night for us was McClousky's goal, our second. That was pretty special by anyone's standards and we have the bloke on loan for the whole of the season. Good luck for the rest of the season and please try to avoid us in the FA Cup, we won't be offended.

McCoulsky is a good player. Will bag a good few in L1
 
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His handling wasn’t great but other than that

Oxley often prefers to parry a shot rather than catch it. That's fine but the parry works best when the ball is pushed to the left or the right. Last night two of his parries were pushed forward to your players who's follow ups both led to goals.
 
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Last night two of his parries were pushed forward to your players who's follow ups both led to goals.

Quite - I didn't rate him really. His massive long punts hardly connected with the Southend front players.
 

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Learned an awful lot from today’s match.


Benrahma - way too good for them. Oozed class, but needs to be introduced gently to the championship, which is technically, tactically and physically a different kettle of fish from tonight. Thoroughly deserved his goal though and gets MOTM from me (just ahead of Mokotjo). 8.5/10

I'd disagree on the physicality aspect. He showed bundles of that, whilst also displaying a bucket load of skills up at Stoke.
 

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Dean Smith - The team that played looked well oiled and motivated which you have to give Dean credit for.
Interesting observation.

Something which always strikes me is that while fans accept that new/young players need time to learn the game, when managers to come in, they expect them to be the "finished article". Whereas when DS joined from Walsall, he was still very much learning his trade.

He's obviously made great strides on the League front, but might last night have been a sign that he's getting to grips with (potentially) tricky League Cup ties, too, after a couple of previous disappointments?
 

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Interesting observation.

Something which always strikes me is that while fans accept that new/young players need time to learn the game, when managers to come in, they expect them to be the "finished article". Whereas when DS joined from Walsall, he was still very much learning his trade.

He's obviously made great strides on the League front, but might last night have been a sign that he's getting to grips with (potentially) tricky League Cup ties, too, after a couple of previous disappointments?

Hmm, I think he's improving as a coach and is certainly maintaining the happiness of a rather large squad

But I think a lot could be down to just having better strength in depth than before
 

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McCoulsky is a good player. Will bag a good few in L1
Wonder whether he was ever on Bees' radar? Was 21 in January, from Lewisham, good background in the game etc and would seem to fit the model:
"At the end of the [2014/15] season, McCoulsky was invited to train with recently relegated Millwall, and also attracted interest from Premier League duo West Ham United and Southampton.

In October 2015, he went on trial with Bristol City and scored for the Under-21s. On 2 November, McCoulsky signed a professional contract with the League One club and spent the season playing for the Under-23s."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_McCoulsky
 

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Hmm, I think he's improving as a coach and is certainly maintaining the happiness of a rather large squad

But I think a lot could be down to just having better strength in depth than before

There's that plus having nearly 3 years in which to have instilled the first team's way of playing into both the first team and B team squads so that everyone can fit without the need to invent a new playing style if making 11 changes from the last league starting line up for a cup game. The stability of not having lost any key player over the summer helps a lot too. This time last year he had to contend with the impending departure of three definite first team first picks while integrating replacements into the squad.
 

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Wonder whether he was ever on Bees' radar? Was 21 in January, from Lewisham, good background in the game etc and would seem to fit the model:
"At the end of the [2014/15] season, McCoulsky was invited to train with recently relegated Millwall, and also attracted interest from Premier League duo West Ham United and Southampton.

In October 2015, he went on trial with Bristol City and scored for the Under-21s. On 2 November, McCoulsky signed a professional contract with the League One club and spent the season playing for the Under-23s."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_McCoulsky

Sounds like we were interested before he joined Bristol City https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/...r-shawn-mccoulsky-is-living-the-fa-cup-dream/

Scored in what I thought was a MOTM performance against us for Bristol City U21s a couple years ago: https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2015/october/development-squad-brentford-2-bristol-city-1/
 

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There's that plus having nearly 3 years in which to have instilled the first team's way of playing into both the first team and B team squads so that everyone can fit without the need to invent a new playing style if making 11 changes from the last league starting line up for a cup game. The stability of not having lost any key player over the summer helps a lot too. This time last year he had to contend with the impending departure of three definite first team first picks while integrating replacements into the squad.

Like most debates....it's probably a bit of both ;)
 

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Pretty entertaining game, again we played some nice stuff. Couldn't really see what happened for their first goal but having just seen it on the highlights it was a bit of an unfortunate richochet. And looked offside? Think Mepham is suffering from his lack of preseason, he just looks a bit rusty, although he also did some very good things tonight. Woods is a great footballer, but I don't think he makes the play move as well as some of our other midfielders. Benrhama = new folk hero; fantastic play tonight and a great goal, he was grinning from ear to ear when he came over at the finish.

Someone else who enjoyed their night was Mr Jeanvier: we followed three people in expensive-looking athleisure into the ground, they looked a bit bemused to find themselves in Southend, especially when a gormless steward told them they had to remove the top from their bottle of water. Don't know why I thought they might be F&F of JJ but so it proved, he went over after his goal for a big ol' cuddle.

Oh, and nice to see Alan Judge given the captaincy and thought he lived up to it - shame he didn't score, he came mighty close.

Who the f are F&F of JJ, please?
 

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One for the stattos

When was the last time we had three players making their first competitive start score in the same game?
 

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I liked the first goal in particular because Forss made that same run twice before, one ending in the side netting and the other ending in a dragged back pass to Yennaris who either shot himself or played someone else in, but it was a very dangerous effort. Look forward to seeing more of Forss!
 

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I liked the first goal in particular because Forss made that same run twice before, one ending in the side netting and the other ending in a dragged back pass to Yennaris who either shot himself or played someone else in, but it was a very dangerous effort. Look forward to seeing more of Forss!

Wow.
 
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When was the last time four foreign players scored in a match for Brentford??
 

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When was the last time four foreign players scored in a match for Brentford??

Has there ever been a match anywhere where a Finn , Frenchman , Algerian and South African all scored in the same game :shrug:
 

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In the light of another topic, should you not be saying at least "overseas players"? ;)
What if they were Welsh or Scottish?
 
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