Sporting Anomalies

[JPince]

Barbados 4–2 Grenada (1994 Caribbean Cup qualification)
The organisers of the tournament had imposed a rule requiring all matches to have a winner.
This was enforced with an unusual variant of the golden goal rule: the first goal scored in extra-time not only won the match, but was also worth two goals.
Barbados started the match needing to win by a margin of at least two goals to qualify for the final tournament
After Grenada scored late in normal time to bring the scoreline to 2–1, Barbados deliberately scored an own goal to force extra-time, where they could get the two-goal winning margin they needed (courtesy of the unconventional golden goal rule).
This resulted in an unusual situation: for the last three minutes of the match, Grenada were trying to score in either end, as 3–2 or 2–3 would have advanced them to the finals, while Barbados had to defend both goals.
Ultimately, Barbados was able to prevent Grenada from scoring, thus forcing extra-time, and scored the golden goal to win the match.

 

[ruislip bee]

Deja vu again for Hampton and Richmond. Drawn at home against Oldham Ath in FAC1....The same as in 2018...
The spooky part is that they had beaten Hornchurch in that cup run, and also in this one! It’s as if someone’s forgotten to turn some pages in the Grand Plan....

Sounds like something out of a Terry Pratchett book!

 

[nocoat]

Barbados 4–2 Grenada (1994 Caribbean Cup qualification)
The organisers of the tournament had imposed a rule requiring all matches to have a winner.
This was enforced with an unusual variant of the golden goal rule: the first goal scored in extra-time not only won the match, but was also worth two goals.
Barbados started the match needing to win by a margin of at least two goals to qualify for the final tournament
After Grenada scored late in normal time to bring the scoreline to 2–1, Barbados deliberately scored an own goal to force extra-time, where they could get the two-goal winning margin they needed (courtesy of the unconventional golden goal rule).
This resulted in an unusual situation: for the last three minutes of the match, Grenada were trying to score in either end, as 3–2 or 2–3 would have advanced them to the finals, while Barbados had to defend both goals.
Ultimately, Barbados was able to prevent Grenada from scoring, thus forcing extra-time, and scored the golden goal to win the match.

madness

 

[beesbees_bfc]

Barbados 4–2 Grenada (1994 Caribbean Cup qualification)
The organisers of the tournament had imposed a rule requiring all matches to have a winner.
This was enforced with an unusual variant of the golden goal rule: the first goal scored in extra-time not only won the match, but was also worth two goals.
Barbados started the match needing to win by a margin of at least two goals to qualify for the final tournament
After Grenada scored late in normal time to bring the scoreline to 2–1, Barbados deliberately scored an own goal to force extra-time, where they could get the two-goal winning margin they needed (courtesy of the unconventional golden goal rule).
This resulted in an unusual situation: for the last three minutes of the match, Grenada were trying to score in either end, as 3–2 or 2–3 would have advanced them to the finals, while Barbados had to defend both goals.
Ultimately, Barbados was able to prevent Grenada from scoring, thus forcing extra-time, and scored the golden goal to win the match.

They may be one of the best and maddest things I’ve read ever.

 

[SpiderBee]

Two of yesterday’s Scottish matches gave no indication of the towns represented:
Queen of the South v Raith Rovers and
Queens Park v Albion Rovers.

Also, two Queens v two Rovers.

Queen's Park is actually a suburb in South Glasgow. - Queen's Park, Glasgow - Wikipedia

 

[TW3Bee]

Queen's Park is actually a suburb in South Glasgow. - Queen's Park, Glasgow - Wikipedia

Sure it's an area in eastbourne too

 

[wibs]

Barbados 4–2 Grenada (1994 Caribbean Cup qualification)
The organisers of the tournament had imposed a rule requiring all matches to have a winner.
This was enforced with an unusual variant of the golden goal rule: the first goal scored in extra-time not only won the match, but was also worth two goals.
Barbados started the match needing to win by a margin of at least two goals to qualify for the final tournament
After Grenada scored late in normal time to bring the scoreline to 2–1, Barbados deliberately scored an own goal to force extra-time, where they could get the two-goal winning margin they needed (courtesy of the unconventional golden goal rule).
This resulted in an unusual situation: for the last three minutes of the match, Grenada were trying to score in either end, as 3–2 or 2–3 would have advanced them to the finals, while Barbados had to defend both goals.
Ultimately, Barbados was able to prevent Grenada from scoring, thus forcing extra-time, and scored the golden goal to win the match.

I remember reading about it at the time, and thought it was one of the bet things I'd ever heard about!

 

[SpiderBee]

Sure it's an area in eastbourne too

Indeed, though no idea what that's got to do with anything.
I was born in Queen's Park in London W10!

 

[TW3Bee]

Indeed, though no idea what that's got to do with anything.
I was born in Queen's Park in London W10!

Nothing whatsoever, just one of those useless bits of information that I have rolling about my empty head.

 

[BoroBee]

Queen's Park is actually a suburb in South Glasgow. - Queen's Park, Glasgow - Wikipedia

As the man wearing the orthopaedic shoes said: I stand corrected.

 

[JANORAK]

Not gloating like....

Last night. Spain 6 - 0 Germany. Their record defeat in a competitive (?!) match....

 

[nick logan]

Not gloating like....

Last night. Spain 6 - 0 Germany. Their record defeat in a competitive (?!) match....

can you imagine our press if that was us

 

[Alan D]

Not gloating like....

Last night. Spain 6 - 0 Germany. Their record defeat in a competitive (?!) match....

I watched the game live and in all honesty Germany were lucky that the score didn't reach double figures. It was without doubt the poorest German performance I have ever seen.

 

[Jambo]

can you imagine our press if that was us

Can you imagine the complete meltdown of some on GPG if that was us.....

 

[nick logan]

I watched the game live and in all honesty Germany were lucky that the score didn't reach double figures. It was without doubt the poorest German performance I have ever seen.

have a google of the German press , hilarious

 

[Ealing Bee]

Last night. Spain 6 - 0 Germany. Their record defeat in a competitive (?!) match....

The worst thing that could happen - not for Germany, but for everyone else!

After 1966, Helmut Schoen rebuilt Germany from top to bottom.

After 2001 when England beat them 5-1 (a result which had been coming), they again re-built.

History suggests they'll take this opportunity to do the same again.

P.S. Getting back to "anomalies", I hadn't realised until hearing it the other day, that German football didn't go fully professional until as late as 1963, with the formation of the (national) Bundesliga:
Introduction of the Bundesliga - Wikipedia

 

[JANORAK]

The worst thing that could happen - not for Germany, but for everyone else!

After 1966, Helmut Schoen rebuilt Germany from top to bottom.

After 2001 when England beat them 5-1 (a result which had been coming), they again re-built.

History suggests they'll take this opportunity to do the same again.

P.S. Getting back to "anomalies", I hadn't realised until hearing it the other day, that German football didn't go fully professional until as late as 1963, with the formation of the (national) Bundesliga:
Introduction of the Bundesliga - Wikipedia

Low stayed in the job too long (2006)? Maybe Klopp’ll get the call....

Re: your last paragraph. I’m guessing (West) Germany had other priorities before 1963, than football. Might explain why eg Trautmann remained in England to play professionally.

 

[Ealing Bee]

Re: your last paragraph. I’m guessing (West) Germany had other priorities before 1963, than football. Might explain why eg Trautmann remained in England to play professionally.

No doubt.

But West Germany (or Germany generally) was always very heavily regionalised - still is, in fact. So that even between the wars for example, when English football was seriously expanding the (professional) Football League by adding Divisions 3 and 4 from 1920, Germany still had dozens of teams, but they were competing in several local, regional leagues, which didn't allow the top teams to go fully professional.

 

[Indian Bee]

Liverpool have conceded more goals in the League than Fulham and only West Brom have conceded more in the Premiership

 

[JANORAK]

Liverpool have conceded more goals in the League than Fulham and only West Brom have conceded more in the Premiership

Please clarify. 2 leagues or 1? Aren’t they all together? Or is it ‘Ever’?

 

[Wise old Bee]

Sure it's an area in eastbourne too

Hampden Park is in Eastbourne.

 

[Banana]

No doubt.

But West Germany (or Germany generally) was always very heavily regionalised - still is, in fact.

There's a reason for that, Germany didn't exist until 1871. Prior to then it was a loose association of states. It remains a federation. So similar to saying that the USA is "heavily regionalised".

Anyway...

 

[JPince]

A mate's son played for Brechin, they were promoted to the championship in 16/17 via the playoffs having lost more league games than they won.
Pl 36, won 15, drew 5, lost 16

In the championship they were on a draw bonus !
Finished bottom
Pl 36, won 0, drew 4, lost 32

 

[SpiderBee]

Tonight, England had three players aged 21 or younger score in the same match for the first time since February 1883.

 

[BuzzWord]

Champions League tonight :
Lazio 3 Immobile (3', 55' pen), Parolo (22')
Zenit St Petersburg 1 Dzyuba (25')

An Italian who obviosly doesn't play up to his name !
In 6 Serie A & 2 Champs Lge games this season he has scored 6 times

 

[Ealing Bee]

Champions League tonight :
Lazio 3 Immobile (3', 55' pen), Parolo (22')

My word!

 

[wibs]

Daniel James is the first Welsh Player to score for Man Utd in the Champions Leage last night since Ryan Giggs v Benfica in 2011. Nemanja Matic came off the bench in both games and each of the Da Silva twins started in one of the games

 

[8corner]

Liverpool have conceded more goals in the League than Fulham and only West Brom have conceded more in the Premiership

Dick Van Dyke ?

 

[wibs]

Sunderland have drawn 1-1 in 31 of their last 56 league matches.

 

[JANORAK]

Sunderland have drawn 1-1 in 31 of their last 56 league matches.

Wow!

Loftforwords quote qpHa stats for Friday night games -
Now up to 19 defeats in the last 20....

 

[nocoat]

Sunderland have drawn 1-1 in 31 of their last 56 league matches.

a
Fuxking
Stounding

 

[wibs]

Jude Bellingham made his full England debut earlier this autumn. Matt Bloomfield has scored a league goal for Wycombe in every year of Bellinghams life.

 

[TW3Bee]

Some amazing stats there.

 

[JANORAK]

Wow!

Loftforwords quote qpHa stats for Friday night games -
Now up to 19 defeats in the last 20....

MOTD mentioned Palace never win on Friday nights either!

 

[grutter]

The team bottom of the Premier League have conceded fewer goals than the team at the top, having both played 10 games.

Sheff Utd (16 goals)
Liverpool (17 goals)

 

[nocoat]

It gets weirder !

 

[Ealing Bee]

The team bottom of the Premier League have conceded fewer goals than the team at the top, having both played 10 games.

Sheff Utd (16 goals)
Liverpool (17 goals)

Yeah, but it's only 10 games, it'll right itself over the full season....









... Sheff U champions and Liverpool relegated.

 

[JANORAK]

Yeah, but it's only 10 games, it'll right itself over the full season....
... Sheff U champions and Liverpool relegated.

What a shame, if we miss Anfield next season...

 

[A Real Mysteron]

It would really cheer me up if Sheffield United get relegated.
sh*t house fans.

 

[badgerbee]

Of the 13 goals we have conceded this season, 7 (54%) were done so in a total of 68 minutes across 2 spells of play (3 in 50 minutes v Stoke, 4 in 18 minutes v PNE) out of a total of 1,350 minutes played (5% of our playing time).

 

[ruislip bee]

Of the 13 goals we have conceded this season, 7 (54%) were done so in a total of 68 minutes across 2 spells of play (3 in 50 minutes v Stoke, 4 in 18 minutes v PNE) out of a total of 1,350 minutes played (5% of our playing time).

And your point is? Crap in those games perhaps.

 

[badgerbee]

And your point is? Crap in those games perhaps.

No point really......
Just a bit of a statistical anomaly I found interesting.....
Although, I'd agree, we were clearly poor for those 68 minutes!!!!

 

[JANORAK]

R5 Sunday stat of the day. Oliver Burke (Sheff U) has never been on the winning side in the Premier League (L 18 D 3).
Maybe someone should tell Wilder?

 

[wibs]

Salah now has as many PL goals as Cristiano Ronaldo. Both men remain four behind Kevin Davies

 

[Ealing Bee]

Salah now has as many PL goals as Cristiano Ronaldo. Both men remain four behind Kevin Davies

I read the first bit and thought it a bit unfair to consider it an "anomaly" - Ronaldo was a winger for Man U, meaning it wasn't his job to score goals.

Then I read the second bit...

 

[Pixelator]

14 of the 16 teams in the "Champions" League knockout stage come from just 4 countries.

Oh, wait, that's not an anomaly, is it? As you were.

 

[HaylingBee74]

14 of the 16 teams in the "Champions" League knockout stage come from just 4 countries.

Oh, wait, that's not an anomaly, is it? As you were.

I so want to suggest that all teams from a country can only meet before the semifinals, guaranteeing only 1 team from each country can be in the last 4. It would make a better competition. Never going to happen of course

 

[8corner]

I so want to suggest that all teams from a country can only meet before the semifinals, guaranteeing only 1 team from each country can be in the last 4. It would make a better competition. Never going to happen of course

or, how about, only the Champions from each Country qualify, straight knock-out over two legs and rebrand it the European Cup

 

[HaylingBee74]

or, how about, only the Champions from each Country qualify, straight knock-out over two legs and rebrand it the European Cup

Only if you are willing to pay for the shortfall in earnings around Europe

 

[Ealing Bee]

or, how about, only the Champions from each Country qualify, straight knock-out over two legs and rebrand it the European Cup

Quite apart from Hayling's point about finances (above), I fear we may be overly nostalgic about the old European Cup.

Taking the 1966/67 season, won by Man U, as an example, the 32 entrants included: Botev Plovdiv, Dinamo Tirana, KuPs, Glentoran, Jeunesse Esch, Valur, Vasas, Dundalk, FC Karl-Marx-Stadt, Skeid, Hvidovre and Olympiakos Nicosia. Recognise many of those?

And in order to get to the final, Manchester Utd beat Hibernians FC (the Maltese ones, not the Scottish ones), then Sarajevo, followed by Gornik Zabrze, before finally meeting Real Madrid in the semi-finals and Benfica in the Final:
1967–68 European Cup - Wikipedia

And that was with 32 members of UEFA. Now we have the former USSR and Yugloslavia split up into many much smaller countries, plus "new" countries like Gibraltar, Faroe Islands, Andorra, San Marino and (ahem) Wales, meaning UEFA now has 55 Member Associations. To allow just one entry from each would lead to a massive overall dilution in quality, with a few big nations marking up cricket scores against the minnows.

So I don't think we should go back to the old system, as you suggest, since that would be like having a problem with the new car you've just bought and rather than fixing it, deciding instead to go back to the horse and cart.